Wentz is better than Dak in some things at this point

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Last year, we lost 5-6 games by 7 points or less. Lost to the Bills by 10, closer than the box score indicates and were on our third QB. Having a healthy Dez or a more consistent RB may have tipped the game in our direction in most of those games. While maybe not playoffs, we could have looked at a 7-9 or 8-8 season.

and Dak was able to win games without Dez in the lineup as well.
 

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Game doesn't seem too big for many players. That's not really the discussion here and not what I'm criticizing.

No you are criticizing his ability to play the position, he is doing just that. Yes he has made mistake not a lot of rookie out there who do not make mistakes. But he has been accurate for the most part he has avoided throwing a lot of ints. He has the ability to run but does not take off quickly instead looks to buy time. His arm strength is not an issue but probably the greatest asset to any QB is the 6 inches between the ears and ones ability to lead others. It is funny players on this team are gravitating to Dak and he is showing greater leadership on this team
 

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....while having Zeke run all over defenses. You saw the "or" there, right? "Or a more consistent RB"

No doubt just like Romo having Murray helped change the Cowboys from 8-8 to 12-4. But if any team is one dimensional NFL teams can stop it. Adrian Peterson is a great back chances are HOF bound how often was Minn in post season? Zeke is a big part of this but it is not Zeke alone Dak still has to go out there and make the plays and he has
 

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No you are criticizing his ability to play the position, he is doing just that. Yes he has made mistake not a lot of rookie out there who do not make mistakes. But he has been accurate for the most part he has avoided throwing a lot of ints. He has the ability to run but does not take off quickly instead looks to buy time. His arm strength is not an issue but probably the greatest asset to any QB is the 6 inches between the ears and ones ability to lead others. It is funny players on this team are gravitating to Dak and he is showing greater leadership on this team

This is your argument - We are winning, thus, Dak is a future franchise QB. Not a valid argument to me. Tim freakin' Tebow had a streak of 6 games won and got a playoff win. Players also "gravitated" to Tebow, joining him in his stupid Tebowing.

Also haven't criticized him for his "rookie mistakes". Never said he doesn't have it mentally. All arguments I haven't made. I've made one argument against him, which I feel, is a huge flaw that he will never be able to overcome.
 

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I don't know about you, but to me Zeke looks like the best player on the field.

Zeke is great I agree. Peterson is great but the QB still has to make plays. I'm sorry I think Dak deserves a lot of credit for the success of this team not him alone but a big part of it
 

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No doubt just like Romo having Murray helped change the Cowboys from 8-8 to 12-4. But if any team is one dimensional NFL teams can stop it. Adrian Peterson is a great back chances are HOF bound how often was Minn in post season? Zeke is a big part of this but it is not Zeke alone Dak still has to go out there and make the plays and he has

The point being here is, we lost very close games last year. A more consistent running game or a healthier Dez could have tipped the games in our favor. How is Minny doing this year? Last year, they made the playoffs. Peterson led the league in rushing. Without a running game this year, Minny can't seem to move the football. Peterson pretty much on his own on offense in 2012, helped the Vikings into the playoffs.

With 3 QBs, one scrub, one QB brought in mid-season, and another 3rd stringer and we lost games by a 7 points or less 5 times and had a couple games closer than the box score suggests. Having a QB play better than those 3 QBs isn't much of a praise.
 

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This is your argument - We are winning, thus, Dak is a future franchise QB. Not a valid argument to me. Tim freakin' Tebow had a streak of 6 games won and got a playoff win. Players also "gravitated" to Tebow, joining him in his stupid Tebowing.

Also haven't criticized him for his "rookie mistakes". Never said he doesn't have it mentally. All arguments I haven't made. I've made one argument against him, which I feel, is a huge flaw that he will never be able to overcome.

Denver relied on a defense that was tops in the league, Denver was winning very low scoring games and Tebow under 50% completion rate. Dallas is avg over 26 points a game

Dak is making the plays he is hitting 65% of his passes and not having a lot of turnovers. He is learning and this team is winning and yes winning is a big part of it. You can have all the stats in the world god knows Romo has put up big number and stats and what has this team done?
 

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Zeke is great I agree. Peterson is great but the QB still has to make plays. I'm sorry I think Dak deserves a lot of credit for the success of this team not him alone but a big part of it

I think he deserves a lot of credit too. He's done everything they've asked him to. I just think that he's not the only difference from last year - the defense has played MUCH better than last year, and they've almost matched their turnover total for all of '15 already, and Zeke is the best RB in football. As much credit as I think Dak deserves, I think a lot of fans lose sight of the fact that this is a team game.
 

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Denver relied on a defense that was tops in the league, Denver was winning very low scoring games and Tebow under 50% completion rate. Dallas is avg over 26 points a game

And people here are saying our defense is dang good this year, especially our secondary. Denver also relied on a running game, a pretty damn good one.

Kinda sounds familiar.
 

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And people here are saying our defense is dang good this year, especially our secondary. Denver also relied on a running game, a pretty damn good one.

Kinda sounds familiar.

Yeah they are just alike. lol Tebow was less than 50% completion, Dak is hitting 65% of his passes And yes by the way winning is the name of the game if you are posting great stats and not winning who the hell cares? I take it the individual numbers mean more than winning?
 

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Yeah they are just alike. lol Tebow was less than 50% completion, Dak is hitting 65% of his passes And yes by the way winning is the name of the game if you are posting great stats and not winning who the hell cares? I take it the individual numbers mean more than winning?

But Tebow won games! Remember, that's what matters. Winning. Winning games, that QB statistic.

So now, you want to delve deeper into a QBs play?
 

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But Tebow won games! Remember, that's what matters. Winning. Winning games, that QB statistic.

So now, you want to delve deeper into a QBs play?

yes he helped his team win but was also very inaccurate with his throws. I watched Denver they relied a lot more on the defense they actually had a pass rush and most of their games were very low scoring. Dallas just put 29 on Philly the most points they have given up this year.

Cowboys are avg over 26 a game, Dak is playing a big part it that. Sorry you think Dak is that poor of a QB but this offense is putting points on the board
 

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yes he helped his team win but was also very inaccurate with his throws. I watched Denver they relied a lot more on the defense they actually had a pass rush and most of their games were very low scoring. Dallas just put 29 on Philly the most points they have given up this year

LOL you mean like Dak on Sunday, which had below 50% completion?

Also, Tebow won a shootout against Minny, also one against Steelers. But hey, it's all about that W with Prescott, ignore all other factors.
 

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True teams win game and last time I checked Dak was on this team playing QB and helping lead his team to wins somehow that is a bad thing? lol


Never said it was a bad thing. But that is exactly what I pointed out in my previous post. Some fans lose sight of the fact that it's a team game. You know, the rest of the scrubs who carried the team through the 3 1/2 quarters Dak was kind of sucking the other night. Dak wouldn't have looked great in OT had the nameless supporting cast not somehow allowed us to end up in a tie. That, unfortunately, is lost on a lot of our fans. Maybe even you.
 

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Prescott has adequate arm strength.His footwork is letting him down a lot and he is not getting enough on it because of it.I feel this wont be fixed until next year.
While I agree on some throws under pressure in 1 or 2 games. We are still talking about a rookie QB that is 6-1 and has a QB rating of 99 while being impressive enough to keep Tony Romo in extended recovery. So while there is always room to improve its not that bad as is.
 
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