We're Still Firmly In QB Purgatory

[buybuydandavis]

I trust Will McClay to draft a QB. Not saying he’s definitely going to get one right away, but I’d give him a couple swings at it.

I'd trust them more if they made finding a QB a *continuing* process and priority.
Keep. Em. Coming.

 

[plymkr]

So true.

If owners have a guy that can be the face of the franchise, they're usually not going to toss them aside without a plan in place.

I hate Jerry's priorities by the way. I'm pretty close to not being a fan anymore because of him. I just don't like the guy.

He does make it hard to be a Cowboys fan. I was a fan for 15 years prior to him buying the team. If that 15 years didn't happen I would have bailed on the Cowboys. It's in my blood. It's a part of my life. But boy does Jerry make it hard to be loyal.

 

[plymkr]

Even though you are using Mahomes as a way to justifiably bash the Jones' and Dak, Dak's contract has nothing to do with drafting the next quarterback. KC gave up the 27th pick in 2017, 2018 first rounder and 3rd rounder to get up to the 10th pick in 2017 to get Mahomes. The Jones' could do something similar. I don't see how Dak's bloated contract keeps them from doing that.

It's Jerry's bloated ego and stubbornness.

 

[noshame]

This is different, the hc, oc, and even Jethro and son see Dak has been defensed.

Drafting a QB is the only way out of this, we can afford a rookie or 2.

 

[starfan1]

Dak was a 4th round pick.
Romo an UDFA.
Given the value of QBs, we should be bringing more in.
Despite having The GOAT at QB, The Hoodie was always spending draft picks on QBs.
McCarthy had his QB camps. We should be carrying QBs and developing them. If McCarthy could pull off his QB Whisperer reputation, it would be a *huge* advantage.
And if he can't, bring in someone who can.
QBs should be like RBs. You keep em coming. You keep them running while you don't have massive money tied up in them.
That's the way I'd build a team. Spend everywhere else, keep the QBs coming, and make the QBs run. IMO, there are more Daks and Romos out there to be had for nothing. Just gotta give yourself a chance to find them, and do your best to develop them while you have them.

And that has always been an issue with the cowboys even back to Romo days. Who did we bring in Stephen McGee ? I am getting old so I don’t remember if that was it or not but they should be churning the qb carousel

Who have they brought in since 16? Will Grier who runs practice squad so ya I agree

I also don’t believe it’s the qb position holding us back injuries and Oline regression has played a bigger role

I was not mad at letting cooper walk but when I watch the lack of separation that our receivers with the exception of lamb are getting I feel for the qb

The bad pass blocking and recent disappearance of run game

Run defense and now pass defense

And yes our qb skill set needs those other things to be better he isn’t carrying the team.

 

[Acceptablename]

I hear people say that "we don't appreciate what we have" and must have forgotten about "the QBs between Aikman and Romo".

We're still there. It's just a little prettier.

It's time for this organization to take the QB position seriously again. I'd much rather be on the QB search than be handcuffed to a QB that requires everything to be perfect around him. The margin for error in roster building is incredibly small with a QB of Dak Prescott's skill level. We have to hit on everything to succeed with Dak at QB and that takes a lot of smarts and luck.

You're not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you handcuff yourself to Alex Smith.

Your lamet is expressed frequently but I fear to no avail. DAK will get a extension. Obsess all you want hey gonna happen

 

[USArmyVet]

I hear people say that "we don't appreciate what we have" and must have forgotten about "the QBs between Aikman and Romo".

We're still there. It's just a little prettier.

It's time for this organization to take the QB position seriously again. I'd much rather be on the QB search than be handcuffed to a QB that requires everything to be perfect around him. The margin for error in roster building is incredibly small with a QB of Dak Prescott's skill level. We have to hit on everything to succeed with Dak at QB and that takes a lot of smarts and luck.

You're not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you handcuff yourself to Alex Smith.

QB stats the last 6 games:

QB #1: 110 of 161 for a 68.3% Comp % 1,308 yards 13 td's 3 int's 11 sacks 8.1% td % 1.9% int % 6-0 record

QB #2: 137 of 212 for a 64.6% Comp % 1,467 yards 13 td's 9 int's 3 fumbles (1 lost) 13 sacks 6.1% td % 4.2% int % 4-2 record

While a small sample size, QB #1 is Brock Purdy of SF and QB #2 is Dak.....

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Daniel Jones and Geno Smith agrees with you...

Both better than Dak right now.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You’re not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you’re drafting outside the top 10-15. But to do that you’d have to lose 12-15 games. Then we’d hear you cry about how bad this organization and that it can’t compete because of the FO. You are going to complain either way.

The Chiefs made the playoffs the year they drafted Mahomes. They wasn't picking in the top 10-15 either, but they moved up.

So no, you don't have to lose 12-15 games.

Do some research.

 

[Swagger]

So what's the answer?

We have to basically sacrifice 2 more years before the front office moves on from Prescott?

Or even worse if they restructure and extend him then that's what about 6 more years wasted?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So what's the answer?

We have to basically sacrifice 2 more years before the front office moves on from Prescott?

Or even worse if they restructure and extend him then that's what about 6 more years wasted?

There are some here that really hope Dak is our QB for the next 6 years.

They're not Cowboys fans though.

You can't be a Cowboys fan and hope Dak is the long term QB. It's a conflict of interest. You're either one or the other.

 

[Swagger]

I remember when the Cowboys signed Prescott to the huge contract. His fans were ecstatic but the Dallas Cowboy fans were gutted as we knew that this would end up being the scenario. The no trade clause is a further insult as well.

Dear me. Horrific negotiating by the front office.

A nightmare scenario. Being tied to a sub par player in the most important position due to financial commitments.

 

[baltcowboy]

This is going to be an interesting playoffs for the Dak hate crowd. The Cowboys can beat Tampa and the San Francisco/Eagles. If Dak gets the Cowboys to the NFCCG Jerry would be forced to extend him to get that cap hit down. Will the Dak hate crowd cheer for an early exit and hope Dak falls on his face or will they actually back the Cowboys to be successful in the playoffs. Dak will be playing for his Cowboys future starting Monday night against the GOAT.

 

[Swagger]

Tampa Bay are an old team and there for the taking. It would be an embarrassment to lose even with a 45 year old Tom Brady playing QB.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This is going to be an interesting playoffs for the Dak hate crowd. The Cowboys can beat Tampa and the San Francisco/Eagles. If Dak gets the Cowboys to the NFCCG Jerry would be forced to extend him to get that cap hit down. Will the Dak hate crowd cheer for an early exit and hope Dak falls on his face or will they actually back the Cowboys to be successful in the playoffs. Dak will be playing for his Cowboys future starting Monday night against the GOAT.

It's not going to be interesting at all.

We know exactly what's going to happen. We know what Dak is as a QB. We've told you guys all along. Dak does the work for us.

The ones it's really going to be interesting for are the ones like yourself who have already admitted that you're going to turn on him if he plays bad. You've defended him for 7 years but you're going to throw all that away if he has 1 bad game in the playoffs. Shame. Where's the loyalty?

 

[mcmvp]

This is going to be an interesting playoffs for the Dak hate crowd. The Cowboys can beat Tampa and the San Francisco/Eagles. If Dak gets the Cowboys to the NFCCG Jerry would be forced to extend him to get that cap hit down. Will the Dak hate crowd cheer for an early exit and hope Dak falls on his face or will they actually back the Cowboys to be successful in the playoffs. Dak will be playing for his Cowboys future starting Monday night against the GOAT.

What is the cap hit if you trade Dak? Teams take cap hits and survive. The Eagles took a big one for Wentz and it didn’t kill them. Not sure what the hit would be for Dak though

 

[Swagger]

What is the cap hit if you trade Dak? Teams take cap hits and survive. The Eagles took a big one for Wentz and it didn’t kill them. Not sure what the hit would be for Dak though

I would trade Prescott and draft a QB - take the hit. We might get a 2nd or 3rd for him at this point. We have seen the limitations of Prescott and realistically he is similar to Kirk Cousins in that neither are good enough to quarterback a team to win a Superbowl. So there really is no point in carrying on with the status quo.

 

[Diehardblues]

Good question. I thought about this while watching the Commanders game. I feel Jerry's ego is intertwined with Dak's success. Meaning Jerry wants to be the GM that found a super bowl winning QB in the 4th round. I feel he wants the credit for finding the diamond in the rough. This blinds him to Dak's limitations. If Jerry were to use a draft pick for Dak's successor now, ala Green Bay drafting Love or Kansas City drafting Mahomes then it would be him conceding he was wrong. I don't think he'll do that. The only hope we have is Dak plays so poorly in the playoffs and next season that it forces Jerry's hand to look for his successor.

My hope and belief that Dak can be the guy has been shattered. He's too inconsistent, injury prone, and it's getting to be a mental issue with the interceptions.

Yep

Jethro’s priorities aren’t always aligned with fans as he’s stated remaining relevant and interesting is of the utmost importance.

Perhaps if fans could cash in on our record revenue as our owners have they’d be more content with less playoff success?

I’m afraid Jethro doesn’t view our concerns in the same fashion. He sees a lot more upside to the current situation than we do.

 

[baltcowboy]

Agree completely but Dak can’t be moved for two more seasons. His contract just doesn’t allow it. I’m all for drafting a guy though and getting him ready for 2025.

Dak can be traded in the 2024 offseason like Russ was from Seattle. Unless he completely bottoms out next season, teams would have interest in him. Dak essentially signed a 4 year contract next season will be year three. I know he has a no trade clause but like Russ he can see the writing on the wall if they fail again during the playoffs. 0-2 after getting that big contract is not going to cut it.

 

[baltcowboy]

It's not going to be interesting at all.

We know exactly what's going to happen. We know what Dak is as a QB. We've told you guys all along. Dak does the work for us.

The ones it's really going to be interesting for are the ones like yourself who have already admitted that you're going to turn on him if he plays bad. You've defended him for 7 years but you're going to throw all that away if he has 1 bad game in the playoffs. Shame. Where's the loyalty?

This is gonna be fun. This is the best chance our team has had to win anything since 2016.