What about Kyler Murray?

[blueblood70]

If the Cowboys are going to move on from Dak he will be designated a June 1st cut in 2024.

And still it will affect the cap in a very negative way because I still think that it'll still cost us at least $30 million to get rid of them meaning it's going to count against the cap that's the size of a mid level quarterbacks money therefore we won't be able to pay anybody so if you want Cooper rush starting or a guy like Trey Lance and this gets really worse a lot worse before it gets better people you can keep on thinking the grass is greener on the other side but here we are we have the defense to blame the no run game the coaching the scheme lots of mistakes and penalties and somehow we keep coming back to the quarterback how about you fix those things and you see wins every time you get Prescott a solid run game and you get his receivers get open more than they don't get open he finds them and we win games..

It doesn't get much more simple than that we're sitting over here blaming Prescott how could you blame Prescott for the Arizona loss when they were missing 3 Pro Bowl offensive lineman they couldn't block they were had penalties the defense played like garbage and here we are again even worse against the 49ers now we didn't even have a run game there wasn't even a short game the line also didn't block well and the defense played like total garbage and had all those penalties really so we're at the fact that you think Prescott's the issue when there's some real delusional people in here I don't get it you think as he threw those interceptions he gets to be the scapegoat no he threw those interceptions the game was already decided it was already a huge deficit they weren't gonna come back with the defense playing like that we have all these dudes out on injury I think people just really need to stop exaggerating if you don't know what you're talking about stop acting like you do this is a bigger issue here this is a team issue all three phases are gonna need to get fixed..

And by the way I think you can get fixed it's not that far from broken we went from a contender all of a sudden you guys think we need to trade the quarterback or find his replacement what what's that other quarterback gonna do with no run game a shaky offensive line in a bad defense??? Right that's too simple for you isn't it but that's the problem I mean Prescott's not the one creating penalties he's not the one lining up offsides he's not the one fumbling the football that was Tony Pollard he wasn't the one giving up a quick 17 points that was the defense this is the problem here you're blaming the quarterback this game was far over before he started throwing those picks because there was nobody open and he tried to make some plays he did force it he was frustrated and had no other place to go

you somehow think we were gonna make a comeback on that team the way we were playing as a team you think somehow all of a sudden those doors were gonna be wide open all of a sudden our running back was gonna have giant holes and all of a sudden our defense was gonna stop them enough to get back in the game oh dude delirious people all of you are delirious

 

[LACowboysFan1]

No. You answered it in your 3rd line. No.

And he's injured every year. Doesn't always miss games, but hurt players are usually not as productive. Too small. No thank you.

 

[Tussinman]

He is over priced for what he brings to the table.
If the Cards eat some of that contract and the cost in draft picks is not too high, I would be interested.

The cards are already like 90 million in dead money on him right now if he were to split. There's no way they're eating any more off that contract, they're realistically probably stuck with him for 2 more years

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

What if Arizona decides it's time to move on from Kyler?

His mobility and ability to make plays makes him one of the few if not only QB's I can think of that might be attainable and who might actually mesh with our offensive strengths & weaknesses.

I know Kyler has apparently been less than dedicated ..... but sometimes a wake up call like getting traded can get a guy going.

I don't know about the financial ramifications but I can't imagine them to be too severe IF you truly can get a QB with experience and the skills to help your other players thrive.

Murray sucks. no thanks. somebody else's trash ain't going to turn into gold when they come to cowboys.

 

[dckid]

Don't see any way its possible that you could take on Kyler's contract and still have the cap hit from Dak the next two years.

I think there is a way next offseason. I would highly consider cutting Dak, as his post June 1 dead cap is 25 million. Much better than the the $65 million pre June1, or this year it was $89 million.
Kyler is another story, he has a high celing but he is better out of structure because he is so small and that is a huge concern.
I really think the team might just have to bottom out, Jerry has never allowed that to happen over the past 27 years.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Huh? You're going to give Dak another $100-200M to sit the bench?

@Coogiguy03 is the king of drunk posting

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think there is a way next offseason. I would highly consider cutting Dak, as his post June 1 dead cap is 25 million. Much better than the the $65 million pre June1, or this year it was $89 million.
Kyler is another story, he has a high celing but he is better out of structure because he is so small and that is a huge concern.
I really think the team might just have to bottom out, Jerry has never allowed that to happen over the past 27 years.

Agree completely that there is a path to move on from Dak, the issue is you have to go bargain shopping, develop Trey Lance, or have a QB fall to you in the draft. Kyler Murray or any other higher dollar QB that hits the market just doesnt seem realistic to me.

 

[Einstein]

I'd rather trade all our picks away for the next two years for #1 to grab Caleb, go Ditka+ and swing for the fences, lol...

 

[Coogiguy03]

Huh? You're going to give Dak another $100-200M to sit the bench?

No give off the beer! I'm saying spread over some of that money you already owe him that 59

 

[nightrain]

But a problem child who can run & make plays.

We aren't in a buyer's market. We will have to look in the damaged goods bin if we want to get a vet who might allow us to compete while the roster is pretty good.

Trade some blue chippers and go all in on the 2024 draft for QB. Use the rest of the season to compete and as an audition for the keepers.

 

[beware_d-ware]

One thing I will say about Dak, is he is wired right. His attitude and work ethic is beyond question. He started studying for his doctorate in psychology during the offseason, even though he's already set for life and has no reason to. Dak's a worker and always will be.

That does not make him a top QB... he has never anticipated well, and IMO age and injuries have made him too physically limited to really break defenses outside of structure. But he will compete and he will work to improve, money or not.

Kyler is an opposite example of a guy who is NOT wired right. He doesn't even pretend to try and he doesn't care about football. The NFL isn't even a job for him, it's more like a chore he doesn't want to do.

Murray is a unique talent athletically. I have never seen a QB with his frame have his arm strength before, it's just cartoonish. But he is a mediocre QB right now and will put in no effort to change that. Sometimes talented but arrogant/lazy guys will get a wake up call and improve - Geno Smith did - but 9 times out of 10 they just are the guy they are.

 

[quickccc]

What if Arizona decides it's time to move on from Kyler?

His mobility and ability to make plays makes him one of the few if not only QB's I can think of that might be attainable and who might actually mesh with our offensive strengths & weaknesses.

I know Kyler has apparently been less than dedicated ..... but sometimes a wake up call like getting traded can get a guy going.

I don't know about the financial ramifications but I can't imagine them to be too severe IF you truly can get a QB with experience and the skills to help your other players thrive.

Nope ... Kyler has flaws and misses in his game as well.

He can be mistaken turnover prone and inaccuracy issues himself.
And you might want to look into his leadership questions with teammates and coaches. I don't think he endears himself among his team, the way Dak far more does.

Plus he would be coming off a big ACL injury, he may have some mobility regain, but will he be the same water bug elusive
as he was prior ?

Plus like some have previous said, I'm not taking on that contract and giving up premium high draft picks, for someone with such flaws in his game and questions about his character.
I would not be surprised if he is demanding a trade sometime, some point down the road.

 

[McKDaddy]

Trade some blue chippers and go all in on the 2024 draft for QB. Use the rest of the season to compete and as an audition for the keepers.

That is perfectly acceptable and it is probably the best route but it means you are hitting the reset button. I was trying to find a way to salvage this window.

But hey, some of us knew that the bills for JG & Dak would linger for years. Guess we'll just be on lay-a-way til we get them paid.

 

[visionary]

What if Arizona decides it's time to move on from Kyler?

His mobility and ability to make plays makes him one of the few if not only QB's I can think of that might be attainable and who might actually mesh with our offensive strengths & weaknesses.

I know Kyler has apparently been less than dedicated ..... but sometimes a wake up call like getting traded can get a guy going.

I don't know about the financial ramifications but I can't imagine them to be too severe IF you truly can get a QB with experience and the skills to help your other players thrive.

No, please no

 

[McKDaddy]

Nope ... Kyler has flaws and misses in his game as well.

He can be mistaken turnover prone and inaccuracy issues himself.
And you might want to look into his leadership questions with teammates and coaches. I don't think he endears himself among his team, the way Dak far more does.

Plus he would be coming off a big ACL injury, he may have some mobility regain, but will he be the same water bug elusive
as he was prior ?

Plus like some have previous said, I'm not taking on that contract and giving up premium high draft picks, for someone with such flaws in his game and questions about his character.
I would not be surprised if he is demanding a trade sometime, some point down the road.

I don't recall him having accuracy issues. Otherwise, all valid points except that the new regime looks to be ready to deal which means they may be willing to eat some of the cost.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Slightly off topic and waaaay too early for the discussion, however one thing to think about is teams picking at the top of the draft are often the teams with new head coaches. The Cowboys have a top candidate for a HC role in Dan Quinn.....

IF and that's a huge if but assuming DQ landed with a team that had a top10 pick what are the odds that he would make a push to take Micah Parsons with him?

 

[nightrain]

That is perfectly acceptable and it is probably the best route but it means you are hitting the reset button. I was trying to find a way to salvage this window.

But hey, some of us knew that the bills for JG & Dak would linger for years. Guess we'll just be on lay-a-way til we get them paid.

They need to get out of this funk. The Cowboy haven't drafted a blue chip QB since 1989. It's time to get serious about the position and not hope to get lucky.

 

[calico]

No more retread coaches or players.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

No.

As selfish and mentally weak, and as Twitter-y as we are, our team is already way too much like a hormone confused emotional 12 year old girl just entering puberty as it is.

We need like a grown man at QB. A legit dude that people can respect for the person he is AND for what he can do on the field.

Murray would be like throwing gas on the fire with this group.

 

[Cmac]

Well Kirk would certainly be an upgrade but we've probably seen his ceiling like we have Dak's.

You ask Minnesota fans?