What Anonymous Scouts Had To Say About Five Cowboys Rookies

[Alexander]

I'm pretty sure Jaylon called the defense there.

More than one scouting report has stated that he was responsible for aligning their defense. That does not spell d-u-m-b to me.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Any truth to the rumor that Scout #3 is employed by the Dallas Cowboys?

If he is, they pretty much ignored all of his warnings lol

 

[Alexander]

Great points. Now i'm concerned with jaylon's low wonderlic score

He scored an 18, which was better than Ragland (10 the first time and 15 on a do-over), yet no scout in that article said he was stupid, just a slow learner.

 

[JohnsKey19]

He scored an 18, which was better than Ragland (10 the first time and 15 on a do-over), yet no scout in that article said he was stupid, just a slow learner.

Just read an article that states 19 is the average score for an NFL LB. So at 18, he's average.

 

[Jstopper]

Great points. Now i'm concerned with jaylon's low wonderlic score

Ray Lewis scored a 13

 

[Alexander]

Just read an article that states 19 is the average score for an NFL LB. So at 18, he's average.

I read that the Cowboys have designs on him playing MLB. If smarts were a concern, I doubt they would put that on him.

 

[MagicMan]

All I can tell you is Jason Garrett scored a 36 in his wonderlic......do you think it's helped him to be a great NFL coach/player? Doubt it. Ironically, Goff also scored a 36 so it still comes down to natural abilities. Before you start bragging on Garrett-----Eli Manning had a 39 and Peyton only a 28.
Sam "deer in the headlights" Bradford also had a 36. Drew "the next legend" Henson a 42? WOWZERSSSSSS. Ryan Fitzpatrick a 48??? Bring that guy in asap. LOL.

There is football smart and just plain smart......give me football smart every time. Besides trying to answer 50 questions in 12 minutes can be very stressful to a 20 year old college athlete-----and knowing that you are going to be judged on its outcome. Sorry to get off topic but I just found this to be "verrrrrrrrrry interrrrestin...."

 

[perrykemp]

There's a reason these "scouts" don't want their name mentioned. No accountability for their guesses. Reminds me of CZ.
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My guess is if Bob McGinn named the scouts in his annual draft write-ups that those scouts would collectively be fired.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I wonder if these are the same scouts that said Emmitt Smith was to slow to be an elite NFL rusher.

 

[dogunwo]

My guess is if Bob McGinn named the scouts in his annual draft write-ups that those scouts would collectively be fired.

They probably agreed to comment on the condition that names are not used.

 

[csirl]

All I can tell you is Jason Garrett scored a 36 in his wonderlic......do you think it's helped him to be a great NFL coach/player? Doubt it."

Garrett had very limited QB skills, played in a lower tier college conference, was undersized and had a relatively weak arm.

His intelligence is what made the difference - without it, he'd never played in the NFL.

 

[Spectre]

I'd say at least 2/3rds of 'scouts' are morons; have no real business being employed at the level.
Scout #3 might be in the 1/3 that actually has some evaluation ability.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There's a reason these "scouts" don't want their name mentioned. No accountability for their guesses. Reminds me of CZ.

In any event, what concerns me about the Prescott pick is that he may have the goods for the NFL, but this is the wrong team for him-----actually the wrong coaching staff. He will get no favors working with Wilson or Garrett, who have a history of not preparing QBs for the NFL. Dallas needed a NFL ready QB with natural abilities and smarts-----Romo has had to depend on these in Dallas. Dak would have been much better off working under coaches like Kubiak or even Arians. He really needs a mentor and teacher to get him ready.

Personally, I can't help but think he is a notch above Tim Tebow------and at best, will be a journey man backup in the NFL. Hey, it beats looking for a job at Lowe's. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the pay scale is a bit less.

I'm hoping Romo contributes to Dak's development as opposed to Wilson.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just proves that scouts rarely agree on players, and it's a crapshoot.

These same guys thought Mo Claiborne was top ten worthy. And countless others.

Claiborne was a worthy top 10 pick entering the draft though.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Great points. Now i'm concerned with jaylon's low wonderlic score

24 is low? It's 20 points higher then Claiborne

 

[Silver Surfer]

I'd say at least 2/3rds of 'scouts' are morons; have no real business being employed at the level.

I mean really, given all the geniuses on this site, NFL teams would do better just scrapping their entire scouting department and reading the posts here!

 

[ccb04]

Scouts opinions will certainly vary on players. But the one who said Jaylon Smith isn't a very bright kid...may need to be lined up, etc...doesn't seem very bright himself.

Below are some excerpts from this article: http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/121615aaa.html

Former Notre Dame LB Danny Spond...who mentored Smith: “When I watch Jaylon, there are a lot of things that I’ve noticed that Jaylon has developed, such as knowing how to properly line up on your coverage,” Spond says. “It seems like he has a maturity and a football IQ to set himself up for success at the next level."

“The biggest thing sometimes for guys who don’t have that football IQ, is they’re paralyzed on the field -- they’ll miss tackles, they’re hesitant, they’ll be a step behind the offensive player because they weren’t properly aligned,” Spond says. “Jaylon always seems to be two steps ahead. A lot of that has to do with how fast he his, but it also has to do with the way he’s prepared, and where his football IQ has taken him.”

HC Brian Kelly: “Jaylon Smith is the mainstay of our defense,” Kelly says. “He is an essential figure in what we do. He's all over the field for us defensively, and we'll make sure that we move him around to put him in a position for him to impact what we do defensively. He's no longer somebody that just ties down one position. He can play multiple positions on our defense, and we think he's one of the best football players in the country.”

Some comments from Jaylon Smith (seems to be a pretty well spoken young man for someone that a lone scout dubbed not very bright):

- “The resources at Notre Dame are incredible to help prepare a player for the next level,” Smith says. “My football IQ has increased tremendously. I’m not just a freak athlete on the field. I have an understanding, conceptually, of the game of football. I became more of a student of the game."

- “When I started as a freshman, I was just going off of natural athletic ability,” Smith says. “Danny (Spond) obviously knew that I wanted to achieve greatness. He knew the outside linebacker position. He taught it to me. I was the perfect skill set and body set for that position. He taught me the ins and outs of the position."

- “Danny helped me learn all about college football, the ebbs and flows. It was really selfless of him. He’s a great guy. He was a mentor to me. He made sure that I had everything that I needed. It’s something that you can definitely count on when you come to a place like Notre Dame, someone of Danny Spond’s character looking after you.”

- “From a leadership role, being able to relate to any group in the locker room, has been important,” Smith says. “I think guys feel like they can come to me. Being named a captain, being viewed as a leader, I’ve been able to stay true to myself, and not be someone that I’m not. That’s something that I’m most proud of. ... I’m proud of doing things the right way, and living with the decisions that I’ve made. I have great support with family and mentors. It’s all about taking everything in stride and trying to be the best you can be.”

- “Notre Dame challenges you off the field, in your academics,” Smith continues. “You’re trying to compete with the regular students here, who are very intelligent, and they expect your best. Off the field, just becoming a man, with things like time management, having an opportunity to make sure that you’re very detailed in your work, making sure that you’re preparing the right way, and, obviously, on the field, playing at the highest level, those are just a few of things I’ve learned at Notre Dame."

 

[ccb04]

Hard to gauge Collins & Tapper off of their 2015 film...as they were often playing out of position.

I wasn't crazy about this past drafts class of edge rushers, but think Tapper has among the most potential/upside of the DE's drafted.

Collins fits what Marinelli likes to do...which was more on display in 2014, when he played in a scheme very similar to the one he'll play in with Dallas.

 

[Alexander]

My guess is if Bob McGinn named the scouts in his annual draft write-ups that those scouts would collectively be fired.

Some of it sounds like shock value nonsense.

 

[mahoneybill]

I understand your quandary. However, is there one person on this board qualified to know what scouts are good and what scouts are bad? Do any of the people that post here know every plyare every scout has enrosed or given the thumbs down, and how that player worked out.?

Further, since each team has a different surrounding cast of player, and a different coaching staff and front office, can you say with certainty the scouts recommendations were accepted by the team?

Or even more specific, can you say with any certainty the player taken was in the best spot to flourish, and thus the scouts recommendation of the player was good, but the team did a poor job of exploiting the skill set the player had.

If Montana had gone to the Raiders with their deep pass philosophy, would he have been as good as he was since he was not known for having a strong arm?

And had that transpired, would you have claimed the scout was crap because Montana wasn't greatness, but a really smart player who didn't win Superbowls?

Sorry, I find it difficult to believe some of the doubting going on about scouts, coaches, players even, and to go so far as journalists in regard to sports since the lion's share of us have never played, coached, been in the front office, or even been paid writers for this or any sport.

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To one of your main points. I can clearly remember Mel Kiper not being very favorable on Darren Woodsen when the Cowboys picked him. My was he wrong...

These guys are like weather forecasters. They can be wrong most of the time, and keep a job...