What Anonymous Scouts Had To Say About Five Cowboys Rookies

Alexander

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There is a reason why scouts exist. Most are underpaid and overworked. Those that are good at their jobs get promoted eventually. That is why nobody knows who they are half the time.
 

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There is such a thing as fitting an individual's skill set to certain team's philosphy. This is why we don't see a quality QB like Montana being drafted by a team like the Raiders that clearly needs a QB with a strong arm.

Fitting skill set to team philosophy doesn't apply just to the QB postion, it applies to all positions.

I agree 100%. I've said this many times over the years. A average player in a system made for his skill set could be a star in this league. Put a great player in a system where's he's like a fish out of water and he'll be average in this league. Jimmy Johnson was great at finding guys for his system.....
 

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Just because a scout feels one way about a player does not mean the decision to draft always reflects that. They could be completely right and warn management not to take a player and they do it anyways. Conversely, they could completely miss on a player and it works out. It all depends on the level of communication and how the evaluations are weighed and measured, how much pull the coaches have etc.

I think most of the time, what we see as fans as "consensus" opinion probably reflects how most scouts think. Some are lazy, others are more demanding. And most of the time, their personal opinion gets lost in the shuffle unless they have earned that voice.

Scouts do the information gathering, but they are not always the ones who have the true voice when it comes down to making the decisions. Often personnel management and even coaches get their way above and outside what the scouts have to say.

It's impossible to have that many voices in the room and have unanimous opinions on things. The draft picks are presented as such but that can not be the case all that often.
 

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There's a reason these "scouts" don't want their name mentioned. No accountability for their guesses. Reminds me of CZ.

In any event, what concerns me about the Prescott pick is that he may have the goods for the NFL, but this is the wrong team for him-----actually the wrong coaching staff. He will get no favors working with Wilson or Garrett, who have a history of not preparing QBs for the NFL. Dallas needed a NFL ready QB with natural abilities and smarts-----Romo has had to depend on these in Dallas. Dak would have been much better off working under coaches like Kubiak or even Arians. He really needs a mentor and teacher to get him ready.

Personally, I can't help but think he is a notch above Tim Tebow------and at best, will be a journey man backup in the NFL. Hey, it beats looking for a job at Lowe's. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the pay scale is a bit less. ;)

I feel the opposite. This is one of the best situations for a QB in the league right now. Good protection, good skill players all around on offense, a probowl starter, and three long time QBs on the coaching staff. And no urgency to start anytime soon. It doesn't get much better for a young college player who needs work.
 

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It's impossible to have that many voices in the room and have unanimous opinions on things. The draft picks are presented as such but that can not be the case all that often.

There is a scout that will give you whatever opinion you want on whatever player you want if you just keep searching.
 

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Thanks for the read, it was informative.
  • Ouch after reading that, I don't feel too positive about the Cowboys picks. The defensive picks seem to be junky ones according to scouts #2 and #3. They weren't too high on jaylon, Collins, or the corner we took.
  • If scout # 3 ends up right about our picks, we need to fire the director of scouts and hire #3

The 3rd scout is a moron when he said Smith is a dummy and you'd have to line him up in your defense. Smith was a captain at ND and along with Joe Schmidt was responsible for defensive calls and lining guys up. And the system ND runs under VanGorder, their DC, is a NFL style defense with a lot of zone blitzes, etc.

And as that other article stated, Smith was cross trained in all LB positions and even some DE situations as well. A dumb guy can't handle that type of cross training.

So for this scout to say he's too stupid to understand a NFL defense and would need help in getting into position makes me question if this scout really paid attention to Smith while at ND.
 

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To be honest, that is exactly what I would expect scouts to say about players picked in the third round and below.
 

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It is incredible to see how drastically different scout 1 and 2 were from scout 3 on Dak Prescott
 

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Scout #3.
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More than one scouting report has stated that he was responsible for aligning their defense. That does not spell d-u-m-b to me.
He is not. I find it difficult to listen to a scout who murders a standard cliché, bright cookie? I think the scout is the dummy.
 

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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...-scouts-had-to-say-about-five-cowboys-rookies

Every year for the last 15 years, Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel has been polling personnel people before the draft. McGinn uses the results of those polls to rank draft prospects at their respective positions and spices up the rankings with comments from anonymous scouts. The comments from these scouts can be effusive in their praise for a prospect but can also be damning indictments of various aspects of a prospects game/personality/traits. Taken by themselves, they likely provide a distorted picture of a prospect, but taken together, they begin to form a picture of what the scouting community may have thought about a given prospect. With the draft firmly behind us, we revisit what McGinn and the scouts had to say about the players the Cowboys drafted. And we kick things off by looking at what McGinn wrote about Ezekiel Elliott in his introduction to the 2016 running backs.

Several personnel people said Elliott was the best back to enter the NFL since...

So we have a great #1 pick, the #2 pick will bomb and the rest will be off the team in a year or two. What else is new?
 
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