What Chicago's farce of a win means.

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I like that the Bears finally looked mortal last night. IMO, they are much better than they played last night.

Even though their offense looked absolutely horrible, their defense and special teams clearly have an outstanding capacity to produce big plays. The Bears are tough.

My main concern about last night is that the Bears are taking full advantage of their inside track to homefield advantage through the playoffs. Here's the rest of their schedule (5 at home, 5 on the road):

Bye
Oct 29 San Francisco
Nov 5 Miami
Nov 12 @N.Y. Giants
Nov 19 @N.Y. Jets
Nov 26 @New England
Dec 3 Minnesota
Dec 11 @St. Louis
Dec 17 Tampa Bay
Dec 24 @Detroit
Dec 31 Green Bay
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1096969 said:
There pass rush, together with our QBs inability to avoid pressure is going to be telling in any game we play against the Bears, should we be lucky enough to meet them in the playoffs. The poster who said this game is about match ups is correct. I think that we don't match up well against them.
Yup, right now, pressure up the middle is the key to turning the Cowboys offense into a turnover machine.

I think the Dallas defense has a good chance at containing the Bears offense.

But in a field position game, the Bears defense would likely tilt the game in the Bears' direction.
 

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The Bears offense never showed up last night, and their defense waited until almost the 4th quarter to show up. They are a very good team b/c they were able to pull together and make up a 20 point deficit in the second half. That is not easy to do**.

Not only did they win a game that they clearly should have lost, their defense and special teams proved exactly how good they are; that they can take over a game if need be. When was the last time we saw a team like this? The 2000 Ravens. Grossman isn't going to struggle every week; but everyone has bad games from time to time. This team showed the resilience to suffer through some of the most pathetic QB play I've seen in a long time and still find some way to win that game.

There is little doubt in my mind that the Bears will represent the NFC in the superbowl, assuming Grossman can finally stay healthy.



**Edge's fumble should have been whistled dead because his forward progress was stopped, but those are the breaks.
 

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As far as beating the Cowboys? Yes, the Bears would destroy them. And before I'm whipped by the homers, the Bears might beat the Skins 200-0. The Bears are very good; they've finally found an offense to go with that defense.
 

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jrockster77;1097168 said:
As far as beating the Cowboys? Yes, the Bears would destroy them. And before I'm whipped by the homers, the Bears might beat the Skins 200-0. The Bears are very good; they've finally found an offense to go with that defense.

On Paper I would agree.

However you never know until you play the game (that includes the skins)

There is a reason that it has been 20+ years and counting since a team went undefeated.
 

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ZeroClub;1097116 said:
Yup, right now, pressure up the middle is the key to turning the Cowboys offense into a turnover machine.

I think the Dallas defense has a good chance at containing the Bears offense.

But in a field position game, the Bears defense would likely tilt the game in the Bears' direction.

Apparently you haven't been watching our pro-bowl punter this year. Or our special teams for that matter (sans the Betts return and Crayton's fair catches). I invite ANY team in the NFL to play a field position game against us. Being one of the biggest and most well-conditioned defenses in the league bodes well for us in games like that as well.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1097176 said:
On Paper I would agree.

However you never know until you play the game (that includes the skins)

There is a reason that it has been 20+ years and counting since a team went undefeated.


There is no earthly way the Skins would beat the Bears right now.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1097176 said:
On Paper I would agree.

However you never know until you play the game (that includes the skins)

There is a reason that it has been 20+ years and counting since a team went undefeated.

See, even on paper I dont think they would destroy us.

I just dont see a team with so many offensive weapons that the Cowboys have been totally destroyed by any team in the NFL.

I think they would beat us, no doubt, but total ownage, I kind of doubt that.

But I think they would beat the Commanders fairly easily.
 

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jrockster77;1097168 said:
As far as beating the Cowboys? Yes, the Bears would destroy them. And before I'm whipped by the homers, the Bears might beat the Skins 200-0. The Bears are very good; they've finally found an offense to go with that defense.

The Bears are NOT that good. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Skins beat them.
 

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tomson75;1097181 said:
Apparently you haven't been watching our pro-bowl punter this year. Or our special teams for that matter (sans the Betts return and Crayton's fair catches). I invite ANY team in the NFL to play a field position game against us. Being one of the biggest and most well-conditioned defenses in the league bodes well for us in games like that as well.

That was Cartwright.
 

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jrockster77;1097186 said:
There is no earthly way the Skins would beat the Bears right now.

He's talking about the Cowboys :rolleyes: .

And yes, I agree with you, they would destroy the Commanders.

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tomson75;1097181 said:
Apparently you haven't been watching our pro-bowl punter this year. Or our special teams for that matter (sans the Betts return and Crayton's fair catches). I invite ANY team in the NFL to play a field position game against us. Being one of the biggest and most well-conditioned defenses in the league bodes well for us in games like that as well.


When's the last time you saw a kick go 75 yards, in Soldier Field, in the Winter? McBriar is a great punter IMO. However, he will not be near the factor a stout defense, a solid tackling punt/kick return team will and a power running game will provide. The team that runs better and stops the run better will win in those conditions IMO.
 

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tomson75;1097191 said:
The Bears are NOT that good. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Skins beat them.


We shall see. They're remaining schedule is pretty soft, but they do have some challenging games ahead of them. They have a three game road-trip in which they go into the Meadowlands twice, and then go into New England. Then they have to go into St. Louis, a game that will definitely test their defense.

However they have San Fran, Miami, Minny, Tampa and Green Bay remaining at home, and a road-trip to Detroit, meaning they are pretty much guaranteed 11 wins this season. If they can win half of the above road games, 13-3 should get them homefield throughout. They will be EXTREMELY tough to beat in Chicago in the playoffs. I expect them to finish 14-2 easily.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1097176 said:
On Paper I would agree.

However you never know until you play the game (that includes the skins)

There is a reason that it has been 20+ years and counting since a team went undefeated.

mickgreen58;1097193 said:
He's talking about the Cowboys :rolleyes: .

Thanks for your contribution. :thumbup:
 

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tomson75;1097181 said:
Apparently you haven't been watching our pro-bowl punter this year. Or our special teams for that matter (sans the Betts return and Crayton's fair catches). I invite ANY team in the NFL to play a field position game against us. Being one of the biggest and most well-conditioned defenses in the league bodes well for us in games like that as well.
I have been watching.

McBriar is great, but don't forget that the Texans broke a long punt return vs. the Cowboys. No way McBriar gets a hand on Hester. Hester would have gone the distance.

The Cowboys defense is very good. But the problem is that they'd be forced to protect a short field, given the turnovers that the Dallas offense would yield to the pressure defense. IMO, even if the Dallas defense performed well, it would be death by field goals.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1097201 said:
When's the last time you saw a kick go 75 yards, in Soldier Field, in the Winter? McBriar is a great punter IMO. However, he will not be near the factor a stout defense, a solid tackling punt/kick return team will and a power running game will provide. The team that runs better and stops the run better will win in those conditions IMO.

Statistacally, we do both better. Your point?
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1096656 said:
I just want to know when was the last time the Cowboy defense has scored 14 points, and there was a punt return for a touchdown IN THE SAME MONTH, let alone the same night.


So no one has a clue about this?
 

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tomson75;1097230 said:
Statistacally, we do both better. Your point?


Really? Well, Soldier Field in the winter is where statistically great offensive teams go to die. That's my point.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1097234 said:
So no one has a clue about this?

Who cares? The Bear are very good at this, yes. Is it something they can RELY on to win games....I sure wouldn't. They seem to pull one or two games out like this a year. They just wasted one on the 1-4 Cardinals. They've got one left, who do they use it on? The Raiders?
 

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Yes, they are saving it for a team they arent playing at all this year. Good thinking.
 
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