What Chicago's farce of a win means.

[Cochese]

The way parity is in the NFL, it's hard for any team to stay undefeated nowadays.

The Bears, are what they are I sense a double standards around here when it come to the Cowboys.

If like some posters said in this thread that if that was the Cowboys, in that position last night against the Cards there would've been "fairweather fans", that would've said we suck and these same "fans" gives Rex Grossman, a pass when he threw 4 ints, against the Cards, and hadn't that been Bledsoe with 4 ints against the same team then they would be ready to crucify him interceptions are interceptions regardless of who is throwing them.

So if we play mistake free football against the Bears, who say we couldn't beat them and Arizona, has a worst O-line than we do yeah some will say Leinart, can move around blah,blah,blah but did any of these people saw how at times how the o-line handled Tommie Harris, and he's a go DT, look at how the played the "feared" Bears front 4 with the exception of the miss block that caused a Matt Leinart fumble in the 3rd qt, and the Bears, returned it for a TD the Cards o-line did pretty good.

Some will not like what I'm about to say but do you notice when some of those "fans" say that most of us true fans are to homeristic to see the weaknesses of the Cowboys, but yet they're too blind to see the weaknesses of the Bears, doesn't that make them homeristic to the expense of the Bears
and their already given them the NFC title if it were the Cowboys, the Bears are facing at Soldier Field come January.

These same "fans" never has and never will be fans of the Cowboys, regardless how the Cowboys finish any season and I'm not the authority either so they can't come with that cheap pitch I'm no better than any fan on here.

You represent them with the facts Brain, they can't handle the facts.

First off the Cowboys would never win like that, they simply dont make the game breaking plays on defense and special teams that the Bears do so that point is irrelevant. And yes, their is a difference between a young QB playing like garbage in a season in which he is doing well, and Bledsoe playing like garbage in a mediocre season.

Tommie Harris wasnt a factor, and neither was the Bears blitzing for most of the game because Leinart got the ball out early almost all the time. He made only one or two bad decisions under pressure. The Cardinals O-line was garbage, what game did you watch? 32 carries for 56 yards. Amazing. Leinart made them look a whole lot better than they are in pass blocking.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The way parity is in the NFL, it's hard for any team to stay undefeated nowadays.

The Bears, are what they are I sense a double standards around here when it come to the Cowboys.

If like some posters said in this thread that if that was the Cowboys, in that position last night against the Cards there would've been "fairweather fans", that would've said we suck and these same "fans" gives Rex Grossman, a pass when he threw 4 ints, against the Cards, and hadn't that been Bledsoe with 4 ints against the same team then they would be ready to crucify him interceptions are interceptions regardless of who is throwing them.

So if we play mistake free football against the Bears, who say we couldn't beat them and Arizona, has a worst O-line than we do yeah some will say Leinart, can move around blah,blah,blah but did any of these people saw how at times how the o-line handled Tommie Harris, and he's a go DT, look at how the played the "feared" Bears front 4 with the exception of the miss block that caused a Matt Leinart fumble in the 3rd qt, and the Bears, returned it for a TD the Cards o-line did pretty good.

Some will not like what I'm about to say but do you notice when some of those "fans" say that most of us true fans are to homeristic to see the weaknesses of the Cowboys, but yet they're too blind to see the weaknesses of the Bears, doesn't that make them homeristic to the expense of the Bears
and their already given them the NFC title if it were the Cowboys, the Bears are facing at Soldier Field come January.

These same "fans" never has and never will be fans of the Cowboys, regardless how the Cowboys finish any season and I'm not the authority either so they can't come with that cheap pitch I'm no better than any fan on here.

You represent them with the facts Brain, they can't handle the facts.

I think Drew has received his fair share of backing on this board over the past two seasons. Your point about how some view Bledsoe vs a guy like Grossman is valid IMO. They are viewed differently but I think it has more to do with the fact that Grossman has still only started 13 games in the NFL. Bledsoe has been at it for much longer. He has theoretically already learned the lessons rookie mistakes teach. I think the commen person generally has more forgiveness for a young player like Grossman as opposed to a seasoned Vet like Bledsoe.

 

[ringmaster]

The Bears are NOT that good. Wouldn't surprise me to see the Skins beat them.

Don't waste your time with them you're to smart for them and you seem to know good matchups when you see them.

Our D, would match up really well against the Bears offense, and likewise with our offense against their defense but the key is playing mistake free football on offense.

And speaking of o-lines the Cards played pretty well up front against the vaunted Bears, front four the blemish I saw was a miss block in the 3rd qt that caused a Leinart fumble to be returned for a TD, and the Boys, have a better o-line than the Cards, if the Cowboys line played that way for Bledsoe, let's say if they make the playoffs and play the Bears, in the NFC Championship Game the way our offense is being that our running game is better than the Cards then the Bears, will be in much more trouble against us than the Cards.

If any of these "fans" paid attention to the Bears offense they don't have a good running game and that is going to catch up with them come playoff time book it.

 

[Cochese]

Don't waste your time with them you're to smart for them and you seem to know good matchups when you see them.

Our D, would match up really well against the Bears offense, and likewise with our offense against their defense but the key is playing mistake free football on offense.

And speaking of o-lines the Cards played pretty well up front against the vaunted Bears, front four the blemish I saw was a miss block in the 3rd qt that caused a Leinart fumble to be returned for a TD, and the Boys, have a better o-line than the Cards, if the Cowboys line played that way for Bledsoe, let's say if they make the playoffs and play the Bears, in the NFC Championship Game the way our offense is being that our running game is better than the Cards then the Bears, will be in much more trouble against us than the Cards.

If any of these "fans" paid attention to the Bears offense they don't have a good running game and that is going to catch up with them come playoff time book it.

Stop spouting off that Theisman crap about the Cardinals line playing well, they diddnt.

 

[ringmaster]

First off the Cowboys would never win like that, they simply dont make the game breaking plays on defense and special teams that the Bears do so that point is irrelevant. And yes, their is a difference between a young QB playing like garbage in a season in which he is doing well, and Bledsoe playing like garbage in a mediocre season.

Tommie Harris wasnt a factor, and neither was the Bears blitzing for most of the game because Leinart got the ball out early almost all the time. He made only one or two bad decisions under pressure. The Cardinals O-line was garbage, what game did you watch? 32 carries for 56 yards. Amazing. Leinart made them look a whole lot better than they are in pass blocking.

You see you just answered my question I said the pass blocking not the run blocking regardless of what you say Leinart, had some time in the pocket pay attention.

 

[ringmaster]

Stop spouting off that Theisman crap about the Cardinals line playing well, they diddnt.

Neither did your Bears.

 

[Cochese]

You see you just answered my question I said the pass blocking not the run blocking regardless of what you say Leinart, had some time in the pocket pay attention.

He got the ball out early, wasnt afraid to hit his hot routes. Leinart made those scrubs look so much better than they are.

 

[ringmaster]

I think Drew has received his fair share of backing on this board over the past two seasons. Your point about how some view Bledsoe vs a guy like Grossman is valid IMO. They are viewed differently but I think it has more to do with the fact that Grossman has still only started 13 games in the NFL. Bledsoe has been at it for much longer. He has theoretically already learned the lessons rookie mistakes teach. I think the commen person generally has more forgiveness for a young player like Grossman as opposed to a seasoned Vet like Bledsoe.

Yeah I see where you're coming from with that.

 

[Cochese]

Neither did your Bears.

Their not my team, I just find it hilarious when people can talk about a 6-0 team as 'not that good' or a 'fluke.'

 

[ringmaster]

He got the ball out early, wasnt afraid to hit his hot routes. Leinart made those scrubs look so much better than they are.

What ever you say grand wizard.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

What ever you say grand wizard.

Interesting.

 

[ringmaster]

Their not my team, I just find it hilarious when people can talk about a 6-0 team as 'not that good' or a 'fluke.'

But yet I find it hilarious that you keep arguing about them.

 

[ZeroClub]

Yeah, that was the most puzzling thing about that whole game, to me. I look at that Carolina offense and really, other then Smith, nobody scared me. They were a horrible rushing team because of the injuries at RB and OL, they really didn't have another money receiver. I think that they watched what happened with Carolina against the Giants the week before and put way too much stock in the fact that Foster ran wild against that team. They really didn't look at what Carolina had done over the majority of the season. I just don't understand why the Bears didn't take Smith right out of the game. Doesn't matter I suppose. I doubt they will make that mistake twice. Lovie Smith is no idiot.

Yeah. At the time I assumed that they were sort of arrogant -- overconfident that they didn't need to do anything special to their scheme to control Smith. But your explanation about Foster makes sense too.

 

[ringmaster]

Interesting.

Likewise man likewise.

 

[Cochese]

What ever you say grand wizard.

We are talking about the same group that let Warner get sacked 12 times in 4 games, right?

 

[ringmaster]

We are talking about the same group that let Warner get sacked 12 times in 4 games, right?

That's past tense now my friend I talking about right now he's not the starter anymore.

If you didn't see it last night then you never will.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If any of these "fans" paid attention to the Bears offense they don't have a good running game and that is going to catch up with them come playoff time book it.

I think you have a decent point here because the Bears have not really run the ball all that well this seasons. However, I don't know if this is because they don't rush the ball well or because almost everybody they've played has stacked the box playing to stop the run. As the season goes on, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Grossman continues to make big plays down field, people will play them more honest. Then we might get a better idea of how they can rush the football. Keep in mind, the Bears were in the top 10 in rushing in 2005. It would make sense that most teams would play to stop the run and make a young inexperience QB try and beat you.

 

[CowboyWay]

I found the bears even more dominating.

Imagine.......On the road, giving up 6 turnovers, and the offense only scoring 3 points............And you get the win????

If thats not a dominant team, I don't know what is.

Every team lays an egg once in a while, but the teams that can lay an egg and STILL win is what seperates great teams from the rest of the league.

 

[ringmaster]

I think you have a decent point here because the Bears have not really run the ball all that well this seasons. However, I don't know if this is because they don't rush the ball well or because almost everybody they've played has stacked the box playing to stop the run. As the season goes on, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. If Grossman continues to make big plays down field, people will play them more honest. Then we might get a better idea of how they can rush the football. Keep in mind, the Bears were in the top 10 in rushing in 2005. It would make sense that most teams would play to stop the run and make a young inexperience QB try and beat you.

I guess that would be an idea of the Bears, to try and make teams respect Grossman, and the passing game for them to set up the run kinda like it was before the start of the season with us and the questions about our o-line but that could be what the Bears, are doing but they better fix it in a hurry though.

 

[ringmaster]

I found the bears even more dominating.

Imagine.......On the road, giving up 6 turnovers, and the offense only scoring 3 points............And you get the win????

If thats not a dominant team, I don't know what is.

Every team lays an egg once in a while, but the teams that can lay an egg and STILL win is what seperates great teams from the rest of the league.

But you know what though in todays NFL, most of the teams can overcome 5 turnovers and still win the game turnovers themselves doesn't always guarantee a team a win in today's NFL.

Do you think that the a team like the Bears last night would've overcame any of those 90s Cowboys, Niners, Packers, or the Bills with six turnovers hell no it's parity at it's finest.

Let me ask you this this if that was the Cowboys, last night in the same predicament as the Bears were and they came back and won would you call them dominating too.