What compensation should the Cowboys receive?

[montgod]

Just do what I do and think about it as a spectacular catch and leave it at that. I still remember jumping out of my seat when Dez climbed up and took the ball out of the sky while Shields was looking up like how the heck did he get way up there! LOL!

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Had it been ruled a catch it might have been a TD because the nose of the football appeared to be just touching the goal line when it came loose. Had Dez been given the catch but not the TD the Cowboys couldn't take the chance of wasting a down to take a knee to run the clock down because they needed a TD to take the lead. Had they wasted a down to try and eat up some clock the Packers may have held them. Murray could have taken a loss or a penalty may have moved the Cowboys back and the wasted down may have come back to haunt them. One kneel down would still have left Green Bay with the 2 minute warning giving them plenty of time to move within FG range.

I doubt many would have bet the farm the Cowboys could hold the Packers with Rodgers heating up. The Packers moved from their own 33 to the Cowboys 38 yard line in just over 2 minutes with 3 carries by Eddie Lacy and only one pass by Rodgers. With 1:43 left the Packers reached the Cowboys 28 and Rodgers started taking a knee. No way would the Cowboys defense been able to keep the Packers out of FG range even had they been pressed for time. They went from their own 40 to the Cowboys 22 in 29 seconds to kick the FG right before the half. Rodgers was on fire in the 4th quarter I don't believe he missed on one pass and the Cowboys defense continued missing tackles on receivers.

Did you see the play? Did you watch it on replay ?? I mean seriously.

First he was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT on the field. No part of that ball crossed the endzone. He was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT. ---Did u see that play KJJ?? Or do you just spout off about things, things like if this was a catch or not, to provide yourself entertainment?


It wouldve been first and goal at the 1.

Trust me on this. everyone knew damn well how good Rodgers is, most of the cowboys coaching staff. They would took a down, or something. Maybe not though, turnovers, etc etc. But they gambled on 4th and 2. They weren't being shy.....My guess is they run-that-clock. by taking a knee...

They would've done everything in their power to run as much time as they could off that clock. They know who Aaron Rodgers is too.....

Which, if they did that, gave the Pack the ball back between a minute 50 and two minutes with no timeouts. Either up by one point or 2. Doesn't matter for our convo though,,,,,not very much at least,

Ill take it......after THAT PLAY/CATCH ....momentum....etc etc.

Ill take it Any-day-of-the-week.

 

[Derekmtl85]

Did you see the play? Did you watch it on replay ?? I mean seriously.

First he was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT on the field. No part of that ball crossed the endzone. He was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT. ---Did u see that play KJJ?? Or do you just spout off about things, things like if this was a catch or not, to provide yourself entertainment?


It wouldve been first and goal at the 1.

Trust me on this. everyone knew damn well how good Rodgers is, most of the cowboys coaching staff. They would took a down, or something. Maybe not though, turnovers, etc etc. But they gambled on 4th and 2. They weren't being shy.....My guess is they run-that-clock. by taking a knee...

They would've done everything in their power to run as much time as they could off that clock. They know who Aaron Rodgers is too.....

Which, if they did that, gave the Pack the ball back between a minute 50 and two minutes with no timeouts. Either up by one point or 2. Doesn't matter for our convo though,,,,,not very much at least,

Ill take it......after THAT PLAY/CATCH ....momentum....etc etc.

Ill take it Any-day-of-the-week.

Whine whine whine.

What abut the 14-17 points we didn't get due to a turnover and dumb mistakes? Oh that's right, you probably don't want to blame the team for letting GB stick around.

Did you complain about the Detroit call? Saying the refs wanted Dallas to win and that Detroit would have taken a bigger lead and have even more momentum and should have won? No? Funny how that works out.

 

[KJJ]

Did you see the play? Did you watch it on replay ?? I mean seriously.

First he was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT on the field. No part of that ball crossed the endzone. He was ruled DOWN BY CONTACT. ---Did u see that play KJJ?? Or do you just spout off about things, things like if this was a catch or not, to provide yourself entertainment?


It wouldve been first and goal at the 1.

Trust me on this. everyone knew damn well how good Rodgers is, most of the cowboys coaching staff. They would took a down, or something. Maybe not though, turnovers, etc etc. But they gambled on 4th and 2. They weren't being shy.....My guess is they run-that-clock. by taking a knee...

They would've done everything in their power to run as much time as they could off that clock. They know who Aaron Rodgers is too.....

Which, if they did that, gave the Pack the ball back between a minute 50 and two minutes with no timeouts. Either up by one point or 2. Doesn't matter for our convo though,,,,,not very much at least,

Ill take it......after THAT PLAY/CATCH ....momentum....etc etc.

Ill take it Any-day-of-the-week.

Did I see the play and the replay? I spent several pages arguing the play and the replay and you were one of them I argued with. LOL I'm not discussing the play anymore I've already given my opinion. The Cowboys had momentum in the first half but a fumble and bad play calling on 3rd and one that resulted in a partially blocked FG cost them all their momentum. I firmly believe based on how Rodgers was clicking on all cylinders in the 4th quarter the Cowboys defense wouldn't have been able to stop Green Bay from getting into FG range with the amount of time that would have been left had the Cowboys taken the lead.

Even after the ruled incompletion to Dez on 4th down the Cowboys were only one score down from winning the game and the defense couldn't keep the Packers from advancing from their 33 to the Cowboys 28 yard line in just over 2 minutes. It was mostly runs by Eddie Lacy that advanced the ball that far in just over 2 minutes. All the Packers were trying to do was eat up the clock and the Cowboys defense couldn't stop them.

 

[Blackspider214]

So you suggest screwing 3 teams who had nothing to do with that call?

 

[fifaguy]

Etched in my memory? Yes. Over? Yes.

That's what I thought when I watched the original Ice Bowl, Joe Montana's coming out party (i.e., Dwight Clark's catch), and so many other bitter defeats over the past four decades. Memories do fade...

 

[LandryFan]

That's what I thought when I watched the original Ice Bowl, Joe Montana's coming out party (i.e., Dwight Clark's catch), and so many other bitter defeats over the past four decades. Memories do fade...

I'm still bitter over their Super Bowl loss to Baltimore in 71. The pain fades but doesn't go away completely.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Whine whine whine.

What abut the 14-17 points we didn't get due to a turnover and dumb mistakes? Oh that's right, you probably don't want to blame the team for letting GB stick around.

Did you complain about the Detroit call? Saying the refs wanted Dallas to win and that Detroit would have taken a bigger lead and have even more momentum and should have won? No? Funny how that works out.

how do you you know i wasn't shocked at the referees call? ohh wait, u dont;

and, when the Cowboys become a perfect or you spot that perfect team that doesnt make mistakes and gives up points.....u let me know when that happens. and i am not talking about a one game performance....

and "whine whine whine?" is that what you think people are doing after the worst call in NFL history??


and bringing up the Lions game is dumb. its like saying two wrongs make a right......

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Did I see the play and the replay? I spent several pages arguing the play and the replay and you were one of them I argued with. LOL I'm not discussing the play anymore I've already given my opinion. The Cowboys had momentum in the first half but a fumble and bad play calling on 3rd and one that resulted in a partially blocked FG cost them all their momentum. I firmly believe based on how Rodgers was clicking on all cylinders in the 4th quarter the Cowboys defense wouldn't have been able to stop Green Bay from getting into FG range with the amount of time that would have been left had the Cowboys taken the lead.

Even after the ruled incompletion to Dez on 4th down the Cowboys were only one score down from winning the game and the defense couldn't keep the Packers from advancing from their 33 to the Cowboys 28 yard line in just over 2 minutes. It was mostly runs by Eddie Lacy that advanced the ball that far in just over 2 minutes. All the Packers were trying to do was eat up the clock and the Cowboys defense couldn't stop them.

i do agree, and i think most everybody agrees, Rodgers was starting to take us apart......

no doubt. and your scenario/prediction is viable . has a lot of legs .


i , just happen to think a TD right there, takes the Cowboys to the NFCCG...But we will never know......and it may be time to look at FA and draft and let this go.... its been fun discussing this play even with people who disagree.

i have beeen obsessed with it....i apologize if i came across abruptly...

 

[ConstantReboot]

If not Jerry, someone......


ummmmmmmmm You know I could put together a hell of a documentary...

Now to make it the least bit entertaining, I will have to go all...9/11 Conspiracy" on your adoubeleS

But it could be done, "relatively cheaply"....well, maybe not so cheap.. but I would need connections, and TIME. lots of time.... Time Management and availability would be huge...and most importantly....a connection. And, someone (a name) who actually willing to do it...

Its a great idea though..

Are you into the film and editing business? What connections are you looking for?

 

[Plankton]

 

[ConstantReboot]

Did I see the play and the replay? I spent several pages arguing the play and the replay and you were one of them I argued with. LOL I'm not discussing the play anymore I've already given my opinion. The Cowboys had momentum in the first half but a fumble and bad play calling on 3rd and one that resulted in a partially blocked FG cost them all their momentum. I firmly believe based on how Rodgers was clicking on all cylinders in the 4th quarter the Cowboys defense wouldn't have been able to stop Green Bay from getting into FG range with the amount of time that would have been left had the Cowboys taken the lead.

Even after the ruled incompletion to Dez on 4th down the Cowboys were only one score down from winning the game and the defense couldn't keep the Packers from advancing from their 33 to the Cowboys 28 yard line in just over 2 minutes. It was mostly runs by Eddie Lacy that advanced the ball that far in just over 2 minutes. All the Packers were trying to do was eat up the clock and the Cowboys defense couldn't stop them.

Well give the catch to Bryant and let Dallas score from there. Then let Green Bay and Rogers do their thing. Rogers supposedly is some kind of superman playing QB in the NFL. Why not let him prove it. Why not let him show the world that he can take a team all the way down to score? Why does the NFL have to pamper him like a little baby and make things easy on him? I swear he's nothing more than the darling of the NFL which the media seems to drool all over.

 

[KJJ]

i do agree, and i think most everybody agrees, Rodgers was starting to take us apart......

no doubt. and your scenario/prediction is viable . has a lot of legs .


i , just happen to think a TD right there, takes the Cowboys to the NFCCG...But we will never know......and it may be time to look at FA and draft and let this go.... its been fun discussing this play even with people who disagree.

i have beeen obsessed with it....i apologize if i came across abruptly...

You come off a lot better than some I disagree with or I wouldn't bother with you. I understand your point about momentum I'm a big believer in having momentum but my opinion is based on what we were seeing in the second half especially in the 4th quarter. Rodgers got hot after being off his game for most of the first half and the Cowboys defense had no answers for him or how to tackle Adams in the open field. The Cowboys defense reminded me of what we saw vs Washington in week 8 with all the missed tackles and not being able to make stops in critical situations when the game was on the line and that was against Colt McCoy. I said prior to the Packers game the best chance for the Cowboys to win the game was to catch Rodgers off his game because I knew there's no way our secondary would be able to hold up to his A-game.

I felt there was a chance we could catch Rodgers off his game with the calf injury and the missed practices and he was off in the first half which helped put the Cowboys in the lead. The play call to Dez was a very questionable play call in my opinion. On a 4th and 2 with less than 5 minutes to play I would have preferred a much higher percentage pass to Witten or Beasley to pick up the first down. Throwing the ball up hoping Dez could make a contested catch wasn't a good call. It would have been difficult for the Packers to stop something underneath to Witten or Beasley but the Cowboys chose to have Dez make an acrobatic juggling catch with a defender all over him.

As well as Rodgers was slinging it in the 4th quarter only missing on one throw that I can remember the Cowboys defense wasn't going to stop him. Rodgers had our D on their heels he was just picking his shots. Only being down by 5 points should have been enough to inspire the Cowboys defense to make a stop but they couldn't stop Lacy or Rodgers when the game was on the line in the final 4 minutes. The Packers were just trying to eat up the clock and cruised right down the field to the Cowboys 28 yard line where Rodgers began taking a knee with 1:43 left. We'll never know what would have happened had the Cowboys scored to take the lead in those final minutes but that drive by Green Bay to end the game was a good indicator they weren't going to be stopped no matter what.

 

[big dog cowboy]

its been fun discussing this play

Not really. Twisting the knife over and over again starts to get old after a while. It's easier to accept the likelyhood the game was lost in the final few minutes before halftime. Because it basically was.

 

[KJJ]

Well give the catch to Bryant and let Dallas score from there. Then let Green Bay and Rogers do their thing. Rogers supposedly is some kind of superman playing QB in the NFL. Why not let him prove it. Why not let him show the world that he can take a team all the way down to score? Why does the NFL have to pamper him like a little baby and make things easy on him? I swear he's nothing more than the darling of the NFL which the media seems to drool all over.

In just over 2 minutes Rodgers drove the Packers from their own 33 to the Cowboys 28 yard line converting two 3rd downs in the process and was able to take a knee 3 times to run out the final 1:43. Had the Packers needed a FG to win or tie the game they were in position to do so with plenty of time left. The Cowboys defense had no answers for stopping Green Bay in the second half the momentum they gained right before the half carried over where the Packers outscored the Cowboys 16-7.

 

[ConstantReboot]

In just over 2 minutes Rodgers drove the Packers from their own 33 to the Cowboys 28 yard line converting two 3rd downs in the process and was able to take a knee 3 times to run out the final 1:43. Had the Packers needed a FG to win or tie the game they were in position to do so with plenty of time left. The Cowboys defense had no answers for stopping Green Bay in the second half the momentum they gained right before the half carried over where the Packers outscored the Cowboys 16-7.

Like I stated before big deal. We would have never seen the greatness of Rogers because the refs took that one time opportunity away from him and gave Green Bay the win on the silver platter. Call it what you want but refs have ruined that game. Yet the Media will still proclaim Rogers as the greatest ever even though he didn't even win the game at Lambeau. The refs did that for him.

 

[ChooChoo73]

Can a mod please delete this? It's makes us all look bad, like it was the first and only controversial call ever.

Almost read my mind. My take is slightly different though to those that can't let go: Go be a Detroit fan.

 

[nathanlt]

Almost read my mind. My take is slightly different though to those that can't let go: Go be a Detroit fan.

WHAT???? Because I know this might be the last chance Romo and Witten have at a Super Bowl, I suddenly need to start being a Lions fan? These SB opportunities are so rare, yet a dim witted replay official TAMPERING with the outcome of a game, and making all NFC playoff games illegitimate... That's just something I just need to accept, huh??

 

[Cowboys22]

WHAT???? Because I know this might be the last chance Romo and Witten have at a Super Bowl, I suddenly need to start being a Lions fan? These SB opportunities are so rare, yet a dim witted replay official TAMPERING with the outcome of a game, and making all NFC playoff games illegitimate... That's just something I just need to accept, huh??

Yeah, because there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. It's done and over. They will probably tweak the rule and that's about all that will be done. It doesn't make anything illegitimate, it's just gives fans something to talk about. You could probably go back and look at every game played this year, find bad calls that would change the outcome of many games, and thus have different teams in the playoffs. Does that make the entire playoffs illegitimate?

 

[nathanlt]

Yeah, because there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. It's done and over. They will probably tweak the rule and that's about all that will be done. It doesn't make anything illegitimate, it's just gives fans something to talk about. You could probably go back and look at every game played this year, find bad calls that would change the outcome of many games, and thus have different teams in the playoffs. Does that make the entire playoffs illegitimate?

This isn't just a controversial questionable call. It is deliberate overcompensation and tampering.