What happens to the fools... ?

Maikeru-sama;3068060 said:
:bang2:

Where are the posters who said we were going to win the Super Bowl 2 Seasons ago?

Where are the posters who said Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson or Ryan Leaf were going to be good?

It's just silly to go back and try to call people out.

But with many things, extremists on both sides always have to prove that they are right.

When Tony has a bad game, guess what, threads get pulled up from the off season debating if this QB is better than romo and so on with the express intent to pat one self on the back and proclaim that romo sucks and the other supporting him are fools.

It does go both ways. It also goes both ways with those that claim to be realist and any other person who does not agree with them 100% as homers or kool aid drinkers.

It would be nice to see a nice middle ground in it, but that would involve admitting that their own extremists views are not correct.

I find it funny that some of the ones in this thread calling out the OP are some of the very ones that are quick to point the finger at anyone that does not follow their views of the team.

Both sides not wanting to give any middle ground.
 
bbgun;3068064 said:
Quid pro quo. Why is it that the "realists" have to make all the concessions?

Who said they have to, furthermore, who said they have made the concessions to start with?:laugh2:
 
JonJon;3068066 said:
The last time I checked, this was a free, public forum. Therefore, anyone is free to voice their opinion as long as they are in compliance with the forum guidelines. You might not agree with people saying Wade, Romo, Garrett, etc. sucks, but creating a "call out" thread to add humiliation and pat yourself on the back for not publicly displaying discontent with a certain member of the organization is just as classless.

Some people really take this forum and what people say on it way too seriously. There is no rule that says that a poster cannot voice a complaint and then change his/her mind later. If someone wants to make it public that they were wrong, more power to them, but to expect everyone that said something wrong ever on this forum to show up and make a public thread is a bit ridiculous. Relish in your own rightness without calling other people out and move on. If you are still annoyed by those posters, the Mods have set the ignore feature in place to be used at your discretion.

If this is a free forum to voice one's opinions without breaking the rules and one can voice their complaints ...why is that classless? Is it ok for one side to do it and not be classless but not ok for the other side?

Or does it boil down to what one's own opinions not matching with others determine if it is classless or not?

Just something to consider.

I have heard just as many call people homers, kool aid drinkers, brain dead and the like if they happen to be more of a glass half full as opposed to a glass half empty type.
 
dcfanatic;3068047 said:
Did we win the Super Bowl yesterday?

No.

So is it time to start spouting off that everyone in the world who criticized Romo, Wade and Cowboys a fool?

No.

And you obviously agreed that the people who thought the OP's post was going over board and was stupid were fools.

So you therefore agreed with it 100%.

You went homer.

:laugh2:

See....this explains a lot.

What we have here is a comprehension problem.

Let's start with this:

Did we win the Super Bowl yesterday?

No.

I never said we did. Hell, I never even hinted we accomplished anything at this point....but here you are...obviously not comprehending the situation.

Then there's this:

So is it time to start spouting off that everyone in the world who criticized Romo, Wade and Cowboys a fool?

No.

I don't have a problem with criticizing Romo, Wade, and the Cowboys. I've done my share in the past....when they've deserved it. Sometimes when they haven't.

...but those of you with a broken barometer often look foolish to me...I don't even call you on it many times....you volunteer for it.

..and this brilliant deduction can't be left out:

And you obviously agreed that the people who thought the OP's post was going over board and was stupid were fools.

So you therefore agreed with it 100%.

I too think the OP's post is overboard....but that didn't stop the usual saviors of Cowboydom from coming in here with their usual banter proclaiming anyone with a positive attitude a cheerleader, shill, or sheep...

I don't think many of the guilty parties are stupid. Just some. Many of them are just negative...and that's ok. I understand that. I'm positive....hence the conflict of opinion in these situations.

So no, I didn't agree with it 100%....but I think its funny nonetheless that the same people are playing the same roles...and yes..I realize I'm falling for the same trap...

...and you're final proclamation:

You went homer.

Pretty weak IMO....I expected something, but I didn't think you'd find much.

Better luck next try.
 
I havent lost faith in our boys since I began a fan I have always believed in Romo he is still young and will give us many more years. As for the TO things like replacing his production that you mentioned earlier nobody could have known guys like Miles Austin or Roy Williams could dtep up at the start of the year.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3068076 said:
If this is a free forum to voice one's opinions without breaking the rules and one can voice their complaints ...why is that classless? Is it ok for one side to do it and not be classless but not ok for the other side?

Or does it boil down to what one's own opinions not matching with others determine if it is classless or not?

Just something to consider.

I have heard just as many call people homers, kool aid drinkers, brain dead and the like if they happen to be more of a glass half full as opposed to a glass half empty type.
I think it is classless when it results in name-calling or public humiliation. So yes, I do agree that calling people homers or kool-aid drinkers is classless. It is the same as publicly calling someone a fool for being wrong and expecting them to own up to it on these forums. In my view, it is a borderline insult which is against the forum rules.
 
JonJon;3068091 said:
I think it is classless when it results in name-calling or public humiliation. So yes, I do agree that calling people homers or kool-aid drinkers is classless. It is the same as publicly calling someone a fool for being wrong and expecting them to own up to it on these forums. In my view, it is a borderline insult which is against the forum rules.

So by that you mean anyone that calls anyone a homer, shill, kool aid drinker is against the rules as well...not talking calling out a specific poster but just throwing out a general calling out of people?

Interesting.
 
JonJon;3068091 said:
I think it is classless when it results in name-calling or public humiliation.

Not to mention painfully premature. When the Giants were 5-0 and on top of the world, their fans were no less humble. Pride goeth ...
 
I love saying the word classy.

I am classy.

That felt great!
 
dcfanatic;3068042 said:
Simple. I didn't tell him how to post.

I just told him the post was stupid.

He can post stupid stuff all day for all I care.

so can i follow you around and go STUPID POST QUIT GOING OVERBOARD!!! and it's ok?
 
bbgun;3068102 said:
Not to mention painfully premature. When the Giants were 5-0 and on top of the world, their fans were no less humble. Pride goeth ...

Like those same people the season that the Giants were going nowhere, Couglin was going to be fired and they had no shot only to go on and win the superbowl against a team that went undefeated during the season and playoffs?

Yes...it is premature to say if this team, players or coaches are going to continue winning or not, just as it is premature to bash team, players and coaches after a bad game or two and say they have no shot.

It does work both ways, I know that is hard for some to figure out.

For those that loudly proclaim from the top of the mount that they are realists, they really are far from the title they wish to bestow upon themselves.

A realist knows that it is rare to have perfection with a player or team. A realist knows that it is a rare thing for a player or team to not make mistakes, have a bad game, lose a game or other areas.

Realists are not confined to just making sure everyone knows the team or player is not the best, they also should be looking at the other side are say not everything is this player or coaches fault, that sometimes another team is just better, sometimes the ball just bounces the wrong way and so on.

Again, it does go for both sides and with that said both sides do tend to stand on the mount and preach.

Stepping down now.:D
 
iceberg;3068112 said:
so can i follow you around and go STUPID POST QUIT GOING OVERBOARD!!! and it's ok?

:laugh2: He would have a fit and half and play the victim...actually he has done so in the past.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3068117 said:
:laugh2: He would have a fit and half and play the victim...actually he has done so in the past.

been there.

done that.

i can already see he has 2 sets of rules for things.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3068101 said:
So by that you mean anyone that calls anyone a homer, shill, kool aid drinker is against the rules as well...not talking calling out a specific poster but just throwing out a general calling out of people?

Interesting.

I think it is when used in an insulting manner. For example:

Not an insult: The kool-aid drinkers think Romo is the best QB in the league.
An insult: The kool-aid drinkers are idiots for thinking Romo is the best QB in the league.

Big difference in word usage and the second is an insult to one's intelligence.
 
Ok ok ok ok ok!!!! Maybe me comparing Romo with Brooks and Peete was a bit toooo much, but still gets my points across.

They were QBs that had "potential" and for one reason or another nothing happened to them. Were they horrible? No!!!

Let's put is this way. I think Romo is just (and i stand by what i say) a lucky average QB that happens to be on one of the NFL's most powerful and legendary team like ours.

Is he a horrible and pathetic QB? No but he is not a HoF QB IMO. And I think he will go down in history as a DECENT not spectacular QB
 
JonJon;3068125 said:
I think it is when used in an insulting manner. For example:

Not an insult: The kool-aid drinkers think Romo is the best QB in the league.
An insult: The kool-aid drinkers are idiots for thinking Romo is the best QB in the league.

Big difference in word usage and the second is an insult to one's intelligence.

Looks about the same to me except one is flat out saying and the other is implied without hiding it much.
 
BrAinPaiNt;3068114 said:
Like those same people the season that the Giants were going nowhere, Couglin was going to be fired and they had no shot only to go on and win the superbowl against a team that went undefeated during the season and playoffs?

Yes...it is premature to say if this team, players or coaches are going to continue winning or not, just as it is premature to bash team, players and coaches after a bad game or two and say they have no shot.

It does work both ways, I know that is hard for some to figure out.

For those that loudly proclaim from the top of the mount that they are realists, they really are far from the title they wish to bestow upon themselves.

A realist knows that it is rare to have perfection with a player or team. A realist knows that it is a rare thing for a player or team to not make mistakes, have a bad game, lose a game or other areas.

Realists are not confined to just making sure everyone knows the team or player is not the best, they also should be looking at the other side are say not everything is this player or coaches fault, that sometimes another team is just better, sometimes the ball just bounces the wrong way and so on.

Again, it does go for both sides and with that said both sides do tend to stand on the mount and preach.

Stepping down now.:D

Realists tend to direct their anger at the team or front office; optimists tend to attack "disbelievers" who fail to meet their impossibly high standards of fan "purity." Mods, ideally, are supposed to rein in the "torch and pitchfork" crowd, not lead it.
 
Four;3068124 said:
that was classy of you

Well that is because I am classy and hawt.

It's a burden I have to live with.
 
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