What happens to the QB position now?

[Sydla]

Crawford and Jaylon Smith need to be gone ASAP.
I would definitely seek a sign and trade for Dak.
If they tag DAK or sign him, then I say trade Elliott for low 1 or 2.
If you draft a QB and keep Dalton. EE needs to stay around to help.
A team cant have a RB and QB making the most money. You are either a running team or a passing team.
I think Gallup is a must keep player and gives Cooper possible trade discussion.
I like our DE group. DLaw, RG, AS, DA, BA
Team needs CB, Safety, OL, DT
(*QB or *RB depending on FO decision)

Crawford is a FA. So he's already gone after the year.

 

[Cmac]

Neither does Danny, and Romo holds the team record for career passing yards. He deserves to mentioned with those names (although I certainly wouldn't rate him better than Troy or Rodger. Probably on par with Danny).

Doesn't Danny have one as a backup.....like JG?

 

[JoeKing]

It is not a New Years resolution but one of my hopes for 2021 is for both Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott to make it crystal clear to each other whether they want a long-term contract between them. Or not. This limbo question is (debatably) the worst thing hanging over cowboyszone right now.

Haven't they already done that? It's the peanut gallery media and social media that is creating this "limbo" you speak of. Ignore the peanut gallery, the long-term contract will get done.

 

[wileedog]

Last week I looked at each team's QB. I saw only three teams where it might be possible for Dalton to have a shot at starting - Denver, New England, and Chicago...but if the Bears get into the playoffs behind Trubisky, - strike them off the list. The Broncos could sign Dalton as a starter but still make their 1st round pick a QB (currently the 10th pick - one ahead of Dallas). I think Dalton stays with the Cowboys if no team makes him an offer to start.
As for Prescott...let's hope the negotiations do not drag on through the spring.

I think he may be a good fit for Washington too. Alex Smith will be 37 next year and has obvious health issues (amazing he is even back on the field at all really.) He has no guaranteed money on his contract next season and with Haskins being cut WFT should be looking pretty hard at QB in the draft. Dalton would be a good and relatively cheaper bridge/mentor for them.

 

[wileedog]

Doesn't Danny have one as a backup.....like JG?

Sure he has some as the punter too. Are we counting those?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

1. His highest passer rating was in his first year. His highest QBR rating was in his first year.
2. Team record is a big part of quarterback analysis. His 2019 passer rating and qbr were worse than 2016.
3. Yes. The ultimate goal is to win games. Wins and losses is not the only way to measure a quarterback's success. But it correlates well. And it's the one that matters most.
4. Both the Cowboys record and his statistics against good teams peaked in his first year and have been really bad since then. Which I neglected to mention in my first post. He cleans up against bad teams (which is fine) and doesn't play well and loses against good ones.
5. I just looked at Dak's stats for this post. Actually, they're not as good as I thought. Currently, there are 10 quarterbacks in the league with a passer rating over 100. Dak has done that one time in 5 years (in his first season).Are we really going to pay $40 million to a quarterback who can't crack 100?

He's been top 5 in QBR, in 3 of his 4 seasons lmao. Was also #1 in QBR and #4 in QBR his two playoff appearances. Yes, you can pay him.

 

[visionary]

Visionary….BTW, I had no problem with TRomo signing the deal.....my question...…"Why was Jerry so willing for TRomo, but not so willing for Dak, now?" I have an idea, just curious of your take.

i don’t know about Jerry and can’t get in his head.

I can just speak for myself.
I didn’t like the Romo deal either and I was quite critical of him too

Regarding Dak, I think he is an above average QB. He’s not the kind of QB that can win you a few games against the best teams when other areas are struggling. I think Dak will need a great OL and a great defense as well as great coaching to sniff the SB. You don’t pay that kind of QB 35-40 million or you’re asking for mediocrity. So Dak is a great guy and a good QB but not one that should be paid elite money. JMO

 

[Cmac]

Sure he has some as the punter too. Are we counting those?

On the team....did more than hand signals or hold a clipboard. Followed the legend, and got maligned once he became a starter.....but he got ring. Again, Romo like Dak in that department.

 

[CouchCoach]

"...not a peep from the board when it happened"



In what universe did some CowboysZone members NOT post threads and comments criticizing Romo's signing--over an EXTENDED time?

I am going on two decades on this site, much of it as a moderator, and this example is one the best fiction I have read here. Ever.

You should have been on the old DC.com where we had to have a Romo sub forum. That was a riot.

The two best things to come out of that was Booger's comment that Romo was the only QB that could play behind that OL, which actually created the run on 1st round OL, and his comments after the signing that Romo would play better because he's getting paid better. While that sounds crazy it really is a look inside what Booger really thinks about the player/pay formula. We think it's all about a reward for past performance but it really is that wildcatter in him, betting on the come.

 

[Cmac]

i don’t know about Jerry and can’t get in his head.

I can just speak for myself.
I didn’t like the Romo deal either and I was quite critical of him too

Regarding Dak, I think he is an above average QB. He’s not the kind of QB that can win you a few games against the best teams when other areas are struggling. I think Dak will need a great OL and a great defense as well as great coaching to sniff the SB. You don’t pay that kind of QB 35-40 million or you’re asking for mediocrity. So Dak is a great guy and a good QB but not one that should be paid elite money. JMO[/QUOTE
Ok....thanks. I can't speak for JJ as well. There's a reason though, but JJ just as much as TRomo when he made him the highest paid QB, at the time. Good optics.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick.

And a unicorn.

 

[ShaneFalco]

He still throws behind his receivers, just like year one. What improvement are you talking about? His wallet?

you go that route, and we eventually have a decent team just in time for his renewal. No way.

Draft a QB, go with Dalton meantime, and let’s see what Gilbert has? No one mentions him. He’s worth another look at least.

Agreed. Now which QB’s do you think are elite franchise worthy to be picked?

 

[john van brocklin]

Happy New Year Zoners. This season is ending on a high but low note for me. Week 17 will have some excitement but winning 3 in a row really takes Dallas out of contention to draft a top QB. Worst case scenario seems likely - Dallas and Washington both win. So the draft pick ends up in the 9-12 area, I guess. Definitely no QB there. No Surtain. No Parsons. Oh well. Biggest question is the QB. Seems like the choices are:

1. Tag Dak for 2021 and let him play out that contract

2. Trade Dak knowing the value is down given the injury and ATL likely grabs Wilson

3. Sign Dak LT - there will be no bargain there

If you go with #2 is Dalton your guy?

Take Andy and use the cap savings on defense

 

[CouchCoach]

Happy New Year Zoners. This season is ending on a high but low note for me. Week 17 will have some excitement but winning 3 in a row really takes Dallas out of contention to draft a top QB. Worst case scenario seems likely - Dallas and Washington both win. So the draft pick ends up in the 9-12 area, I guess. Definitely no QB there. No Surtain. No Parsons. Oh well. Biggest question is the QB. Seems like the choices are:

1. Tag Dak for 2021 and let him play out that contract

2. Trade Dak knowing the value is down given the injury and ATL likely grabs Wilson

3. Sign Dak LT - there will be no bargain there

If you go with #2 is Dalton your guy?

It will be #3 and it will not be a bargain nor should it be.

I believe Prescott that he was getting ready to agree to the offer when time ran out and I think that erased any ill feelings Booger might have about the negotiations.

They really like Dak Prescott as the DC QB, like everything about him. Unlike Earl Thomas, he's been a company man since the injury and seems to hold no grudge that would affect negotiations. I expect this deal to get done quickly.

I also think the % of those opposed to Prescott being the long term answer in this forum is not representative of the gen pop of fans. He is a fan favorite and most want Booger to sign him long term.

I also fully expect any and every shortcoming on the team to be blamed on Prescott's selfishness and unwillingness to sell himself short.

And let's remember one thing. That wasn't Mahomes, Allen, Rodgers, Brees or Wilson on that record pace to start the season. Why should Dak Prescott take any less than they will get paid?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Nothing has changed. Team will still look to resign Dak to a long-term contract. Dalton will leave via fa and probably become a bridge QB for a team that just draft one.

Agree but I can also Dalton returning as Dak's backup coz I'm not convinced he'll find a team offering him a starting job. Even as bridge QB, how will he start before the rookie takes over, meaning he's back on the bench.

 

[cowboyec]

He still throws behind his receivers, just like year one. What improvement are you talking about? His wallet?

you go that route, and we eventually have a decent team just in time for his renewal. No way.

Draft a QB, go with Dalton meantime, and let’s see what Gilbert has? No one mentions him. He’s worth another look at least.

bull.
if you can't see that he's a much better QB now than he was his rookie year then your just interested in arguing.
he's clearly better.
last year and this season.
just stop with this nonsense.
you won't like this imaginary franchise QB you want them to draft anymore than you like Dak.

 

[cowboyec]

That's funny, because his best year was his first one.

bull.

 

[Cmac]

Sure he has some as the punter too. Are we counting those?

Are we counting numbers for Dak…..like we're doing for Romo here?

 

[DallasEast]

Prescott is in the conversation for best Cowboys QB ever and we've had Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman, Danny White and Tony Romo.

Okay. Not sure what this means in regards to my comment you quoted..

 

[Cowboyny]

Agree but I can also Dalton returning as Dak's backup coz I'm not convinced he'll find a team offering him a starting job. Even as bridge QB, how will he start before the rookie takes over, meaning he's back on the bench.

If Dalton isn't able to find a starting job, he could very well resign here as this is where he's from. I consider it unlikely though, cause there are so many teams who need QB's and only 3-4 will be able to fill them through the draft.