What if we drafted Ramsey, would Darius had rushed for 1400 yds?

aikemirv said:
And 13 teams that did not draft him before us in the 6th round? Liked him yes, but did not want to use a draft pick on him!
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Are we really going to go down this road? Where we then get to Tom Brady being a 6th rounder too, or Tony Romo going undrafted?

Honestly, it's exhausting.

Fans can tell themselves whatever they want about him so they can sleep at night and not think that "their Cowboys" could possibly screw something up. Doesn't change the fact that they did.
 
stasheroo said:
And now, guess what? The Cowboys are looking for a long term backup.
Just dumb.
:facepalm:
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Nobody in the NFL has a long term backup at the RB position, they rotate all the time. One exception I can think of is DeAngelo Willimas who is happy being a backup and productive.
 
stasheroo said:
Are we really going to go down this road? Where we then get to Tom Brady being a 6th rounder too, or Tony Romo going undrafted?

Honestly, it's exhausting.

Fans can tell themselves whatever they want about him so they can sleep at night and not think that "their Cowboys" could possibly screw something up. Doesn't change the fact that they did.
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Seriously though, what did he do enough in preseason to change 13 teams mind on him from draft day. We did not give up a gem.
 
stasheroo said:
What round were they drafted?

And who else was on the team's that they were?

This is a poor apples to oranges comparison.
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You want me to point out all of the sixth-round picks that Dallas made who turned out to be JAGs? I don't think that's necessary. If you don't know that they've drafted plenty of JAGs in the late rounds then I can't help you.

BTW, Dunbar had no statistics in the preseason and only played in one game. Dallas treated him like one of its starters, which I didn't agree with, but has little bearing on whether Jackson was worth keeping.
 
aikemirv said:
Nobody in the NFL has a long term backup at the RB position, they rotate all the time. One exception I can think of is DeAngelo Willimas who is happy being a backup and productive.
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You should look harder.

Check Pittsburgh for example, or Arizona. Both teams have running backs at the top of their game. And both invested quality draft resources to bring in another one.
 
gimmesix said:
You want me to point out all of the sixth-round picks that Dallas made who turned out to be JAGs? I don't think that's necessary. If you don't know that they've drafted plenty of JAGs in the late rounds then I can't help you.
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Never asked for help. I'm not the guy who needs it here. You keep bringing up piss poor examples for justification. And failing.

BTW, Dunbar had no statistics in the preseason and only played in one game. Dallas treated him like one of its starters, which I didn't agree with, but has little bearing on whether Jackson was worth keeping.
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More "bearing" than trying to cut down Jackson for his numbers, when he actually played, while trying to justify Dunbar, who did less than nothing, yet again.
 
stasheroo said:
You should look harder.

Check Pittsburgh for example, or Arizona. Both teams have running backs at the top of their game. And both invested quality draft resources to bring in another one.
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Check my post, I mentioned Pittsburgh as an exception!

Deangelo does not want to be a starter, there are few like him!
 
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aikemirv said:
Check my post, I mentioned Pittsburgh as an exception!

Deangelo does not want to be a starter, there are few like him!
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I did. But check again. The Steelers also drafted another running back this year. In the 3rd round, no less!
 
rocyaice said:
Except Jordan Howard wasn't the prospect Zeke was. You guys really bought that myth that anyone can run behind this line? Sure McFadden had 1k yards......but it didn't result in many wins either.
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How does that have anything to do with what I said? It's not a projection that anyone can run behind our line. Howard DID run for 1300 yards with a slightly better average than Zeke on a much worse team. He also was dominant in the same conference as Zeke in college.

Like I said, Zeke was and still is the better player, but in my opinion the gap was no where near the nearly 150 pick selection difference. I don't expect you to, but if you went back and looked at my posts from before the draft I was saying the same things about Howard. I thought he was going to be a steal and was right...for once.
 
gimmesix said:
I just don't think we know if that is the case. He's a straight-line runner with power and speed. Maybe that would have been enough for some success behind this line, but it would have limited the running game's effectiveness IMO. But that's all speculation. What we know of him right now is that he hasn't gotten on the field as a running back yet in a regular-season game, and it's possible he never will or it's possible he'll become what you think he can become.

I don't like to play with projections because most of the time it turns into a grass-is-greener view of a player. Jackson is better than Dunbar in some fans' minds because they've seen enough of Dunbar to know what he is and assume ability with Jackson instead of believing that the coaching staff who saw him every day didn't see enough to keep him.

I'm not saying the coaching staff couldn't be wrong, just that there is no reason to assume Jackson is more than just the guy that they didn't think showed enough to knock a backup with a one-year deal off the roster.
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You're right
 
stasheroo said:
I did. But check again. The Steelers also drafted another running back this year. In the 3rd round, no less!
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That's because Bell wants a long-term deal as the best back in football and the Steelers understandably don't want to pay him. He's also an injury risk (big surprise he plays RB) and he's also a knucklehead (hey another similarity to Zeke).

And the Steelers didn't have to spend the 4th overall pick in the dang draft. Shame.
 
Toruk_Makto said:
That's because Bell wants a long-term deal as the best back in football and the Steelers understandably don't want to pay him. He's also an injury risk (big surprise he plays RB) and he's also a knucklehead (hey another similarity to Zeke).

And the Steelers didn't have to spend the 4th overall pick in the dang draft. Shame.
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Man that still really upsets you, doesn't it?
 
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