What if we drafted Ramsey, would Darius had rushed for 1400 yds?

Zeke is a bad long term investment unless he turns out to be one of the best players at his position over the last 20 years AND stays healthy for a decade.

Staying healthy is
That's because Bell wants a long-term deal as the best back in football and the Steelers understandably don't want to pay him. He's also an injury risk (big surprise he plays RB) and he's also a knucklehead (hey another similarity to Zeke).

And the Steelers didn't have to spend the 4th overall pick in the dang draft. Shame.


This is true, when we spent the 4th overall pick on a RB we all new it was risky given the demands that position takes on the body.

But the Cowboys took that chance knowing they were gonna pair him with Romo and make a deep run into the playoofs (1 and done again) So what did we get? A rushing title behind this line that dont impress me.

Any starting RB in the league would get at least 1200 yds on this team.

If Zeke is generational player how come Garrett didnt shove him done Green Bays throat in the playoffs. There were multiple times on 3rd and short that Garrett selected a passing play
 


I know its against inferior talent, but isnt that what Dallas' O Line makes the NFL defenses look like. Darius never came on the World stage with a corny half shirt nor did he pull a womens top down.

I know I know hes a Cowboy with 1600 yds on his resume.

But that cheesy smile is kind of annoying. Hes got intitlement written all across it.

1 season greetness followed with those shenanigans .

no, just because he had 4.35 speed doesn't make him a 1400 yard rusher, in fact he would have played behind McFadden!!! you must be joking....
 
Never asked for help. I'm not the guy who needs it here. You keep bringing up piss poor examples for justification. And failing.

What examples did you need? I gave you Thompson and Williams as guys who stayed in the league because of intriguing measurables.

Do I have to point out every sixth-round pick by Dallas who was a JAG? Let's say Darius is (jury's still out since he's only in his second year), there's Devonte Holloman, Sam Young, Jamar Wall, Stephen Hodge and Deon Anderson since 2007. All were drafted because of potential to be more than JAG, but they were JAGs nonetheless.

However, we hit at least somewhat during that time period on Nick Folk, Erik Walden (although not for us), John Phillips, Dwayne Harris, James Hanna and Anthony Brown. Jury's still out on Kavon Frazier and Rico Gathers plus this year's sixths Woods and White.

Like I said, you take those guys because you see potential in them despite their flaws and you hope they fit your scheme or can build on that potential. You want them to turn out like that second group although they often turn out like the first. The numbers show, though, that we've done fairly well in identifying contributors in the sixth round in the past 10 years even if we haven't hit on any star players.

Six contributors and six JAGs (counting Darius) ... not sure that bodes well for Frazier, Gathers, Woods and White all becoming contributors.

Does that spell it out well enough for you?
 
More "bearing" than trying to cut down Jackson for his numbers, when he actually played, while trying to justify Dunbar, who did less than nothing, yet again.

Dunbar was established. Jackson had to beat him out. He didn't play well enough in the preseason or show enough in practice to do that apparently. Dunbar had displayed what he could do in space as a receiving back, even though we never saw him do it as often as the coaching staff believed he could.

I wish that Jackson had shown enough to beat out Dunbar because we didn't need Dunbar when McFadden returned IMO. If Jackson had looked like a world beater by that point maybe the front office would have made a different decision. Again, I'm not saying I agree with the decision only that you and some others are acting like Jackson had shown something to make himself indispensable when he had not. The only reason I would have kept him is for the same reason Dallas kept Tyson Thompson and Randall Williams ... you always hope a player with that kind of speed at that size can be developed.
 
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This is the best reply to something that I've seen in a long time. Bravo sir
 
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know its for fun but watch as he acts like an *** as he eats the cereal. It's foolishness, i dont trust him because i dont know where his heart is. Hes egotistical. Hes a Narcisist

Emmitt would have never made this video. But would you expect anything less from him, after that draft fiasco.

I love the O line. I am so proud of that unit. All time best. Thats my squad. Thats how we roll. Copper will be legendary. (ESPN will do a E:60. On him) prediction

Collins will be Pro Bowl RT . From what I heard hes biting at the bit to play RT. Thats all I needed to hear. Thats how we roll

I know Ezekiel is a beast on the field.

But a clown off of it. Disrespectful but at the same time epitomizes todays youth.

I am fine RB position is a turn em out meat grinder. Our O Line is a foundation that transends.

It made 2 strong willed rookies extrodinary.

Did you forget what it's like to be 21?
And i didn't have millions to throw around.
It sounds like you have an agenda to me...
 
What examples did you need? I gave you Thompson and Williams as guys who stayed in the league because of intriguing measurables.

Do I have to point out every sixth-round pick by Dallas who was a JAG? Let's say Darius is (jury's still out since he's only in his second year), there's Devonte Holloman, Sam Young, Jamar Wall, Stephen Hodge and Deon Anderson since 2007. All were drafted because of potential to be more than JAG, but they were JAGs nonetheless.

However, we hit at least somewhat during that time period on Nick Folk, Erik Walden (although not for us), John Phillips, Dwayne Harris, James Hanna and Anthony Brown. Jury's still out on Kavon Frazier and Rico Gathers plus this year's sixths Woods and White.

Like I said, you take those guys because you see potential in them despite their flaws and you hope they fit your scheme or can build on that potential. You want them to turn out like that second group although they often turn out like the first. The numbers show, though, that we've done fairly well in identifying contributors in the sixth round in the past 10 years even if we haven't hit on any star players.

Six contributors and six JAGs (counting Darius) ... not sure that bodes well for Frazier, Gathers, Woods and White all becoming contributors.

Does that spell it out well enough for you?

I'm good. I'm not the guy trying to marginalize Darius Jackson in some dumb attempt to make the Cowboys look less stupid for letting him go to continue to waste time with Lance Dunbar, a "JAG" if ever there was one.
 
Did you forget what it's like to be 21?
And i didn't have millions to throw around.
It sounds like you have an agenda to me...
Ok i get it hes just a goof ball.
No agenda my son has An Ezekiel Elliott Jersey. Hes named after one of the greatest prophets in the history of the world. Bonus pts there.

I never implied I was against him. I am just pointing out some facts.

IMO RB isnt that important for this team. Anyone would be able to perform at a high level on this team.

Lets say hypotheticaly in 4 years somehow Collins and Ezekiel contracts need to be renewed. Lets just say for arguments sake Collins has made 1 or 2 pro bowls.

You can only keep one. Who would it be.
Smart decision is sign Collins and draft a rookie RB
 
Dunbar was established.

As what? An injury prone "non-running" back? Yay?

[quote-2Jackson had to beat him out. He didn't play well enough in the preseason or show enough in practice to do that apparently. Dunbar had displayed what he could do in space as a receiving back, even though we never saw him do it as often as the coaching staff believed he could.[/quote]

Translation? One stupid decision followed up with another..

I wish that Jackson had shown enough to beat out Dunbar because we didn't need Dunbar when McFadden returned IMO. If Jackson had looked like a world beater by that point maybe the front office would have made a different decision. Again, I'm not saying I agree with the decision only that you and some others are acting like Jackson had shown something to make himself indispensable when he had not. The only reason I would have kept him is for the same reason Dallas kept Tyson Thompson and Randall Williams ... you always hope a player with that kind of speed at that size can be developed.

I'm saying the guy never got the chance. Not that he did and failed like you're trying to claim.

The team screwed up.

For all of the love that Linehan gets around here, he never seems to be criticized when he "sees" things in guys like Dunbar and Kellen Moore that never seem to materialize on the field.
 
How does that have anything to do with what I said? It's not a projection that anyone can run behind our line. Howard DID run for 1300 yards with a slightly better average than Zeke on a much worse team. He also was dominant in the same conference as Zeke in college.

Like I said, Zeke was and still is the better player, but in my opinion the gap was no where near the nearly 150 pick selection difference. I don't expect you to, but if you went back and looked at my posts from before the draft I was saying the same things about Howard. I thought he was going to be a steal and was right...for once.


My point is, Zekes impact was felt far more than just the yards he had. He should've gotten more carries and he didn't play in week 17. But more importantly, he impacted us in the win column.
 
That's because Bell wants a long-term deal as the best back in football and the Steelers understandably don't want to pay him. He's also an injury risk (big surprise he plays RB) and he's also a knucklehead (hey another similarity to Zeke).

And the Steelers didn't have to spend the 4th overall pick in the dang draft. Shame.

Cowboys didn't "have to" chose Zeke. They decided he was the BPA.
 
I'm saying the guy never got the chance. Not that he did and failed like you're trying to claim.

The team screwed up.

For all of the love that Linehan gets around here, he never seems to be criticized when he "sees" things in guys like Dunbar and Kellen Moore that never seem to materialize on the field.

And I'm saying they saw him in the preseason and in practice for most of the season and felt they could risk him to waivers, which means they didn't think that much of what they saw.

Saying the team screwed up is saying that Jackson is more than what he showed. Neither you nor I nor anyone else here can say that he is. I'm not marginalizing Jackson because there is no reason to. He is at the moment a marginal player, just like Dunbar ... except the team felt it had a use for Dunbar. (Again, I don't agree with that decision, but I'm not going to lament losing a marginal player.)

If he proves differently, then we can shout it from the mountaintop that the team screwed up. It's silly for us to be debating his worth right now.
 
If that were the case we would've been happier this year with a higher draft pick...
 

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