What is at stake with Zeke negotiations

[lostar2009]

i would go much further than that.

we gave the last offer.
that offer is null and void on sept 1 2019.
we expect him to fulfill his contract if he does not agree to the generous contract also offered.
we will not trade zeke
we have his rights for the next 2 years, and we will likely utilize the franchise tag after that to maximize the benefit to the cowboys organization.

Use him up then let him test the market. A dirty franchise would do that but JJ won't. Also ppl get the Murray issue mix it. Murray was an always injured back. Back in 2014 was his first full healthy season.

 

[waldoputty]

waldo's negotiation technique

Player - This is what I want
Waldo - Yo momma

So absurd.

u seem to have forgotten the part about the contract for top 5 rb and the top 2 rb...
but that is only small details

 

[waldoputty]

too bad you are NOT the GM nor the owner,,everyone wants Zeke back and he will be here Gmae 1..so sorry to disappoint..

BTW we evaluated Dak without Zeke that 6 game stretch he was suspended..it was NOT pretty..i know new year new Eval maybe daks grown but you want your BEST 22 on the field, one of them is ZEKE.. Go play Madden, maybe you get your eay there..

experiment in the PS, game 1 is no time to experiment, Zeke needs to be here and im confident he will..

well no contract is signed
so nobody knows what will happen.
if cowboys cannot win games 1-3 without zeke, the season is toast.

 

[waldoputty]

Use him up then let him test the market. A dirty franchise would do that but JJ won't. Also ppl get the Murray issue mix it. Murray was an always injured back. Back in 2014 was his first full healthy season.

it is just leverage and use of leverage.
nobody knows what will happen.

 

[lostar2009]

he did NOTHING TO GO WIN IT..stop making excuses , solid dont cut it

we are talking elevate the game, he should have had a good game, they sold out to stop Zeke and LET him dink and dunk move it but dont score a lot.. get some true insight on what happened... Our D sucked, our oline got manhandled, they sold out the were in the backfield all day to stop zeke. so what dak got some holllow yards and helped keep us in the game, sure but he did NOT lead us to victory.. I mean if the 32-16 keeps getting assigned to him as his glory when we all know W&Ls is team and coach Stat, then he LOST the rams game.. lmao you cant have it both ways.. Teams dare us to throw and when needed just gameplan and sell out on Zeke, Dare Dak to actually just show out and take it, he did nOT..

Interesting

Dak

20/36 -266 yards 1 TD QBR 84.4


Goff
15-28 -158 yards 0000 TDs QBR 54.4


Maybe if Zeke was able to DO MORE and EARN his check this team may have won. Since Zeke is the Holy Grail of players for this team.

 

[Jake]

u seem to have forgotten the part about the contract for top 5 rb and the top 2 rb...
but that is only small details

I'm pretty sure he was referring to your overly-emotional "negotiating" stance.

 

[waldoputty]

I'm pretty sure he was referring to your overly-emotional "negotiating" stance.

i am simply saying that the cowboys needs to negotiate like a bully does in this current situation.
whether it is cursing him, talking about his mother or whatever else is irrelevant.
the big picture is simply forcing the agent into a corner so that he loses his client.

 

[blueblood70]

Interesting

Dak

20/36 -266 yards 1 TD QBR 84.4


Goff
15-28 -158 yards 0000 TDs QBR 54.4


Maybe if Zeke was able to DO MORE and EARN his check this team may have won. Since Zeke is the Holy Grail of players for this team.

again if wins and losses are on the QB Dak lost the game..they use the 32-16 to pump dak up..well he lost the rams game because he didnt make enough plays.. Goff wasn't needed when they ran for 300yards and ate the clock up and oH that scramble by Goff SEAKED the game..we both know the loss is on coaching and defense but those trolling Zekes game didnt understand what the Rams coaches Dline, and LBs said stop zeke keep Dak under control nothing big and it worked... No zeke good luck getting the d do that and thats my argument .. we arent knockings Dak we are explaining to the troll saying Zeke didnt show up but has zero grasp on the Rams Game plan..

 

[waldoputty]

Use him up then let him test the market. A dirty franchise would do that but JJ won't. Also ppl get the Murray issue mix it. Murray was an always injured back. Back in 2014 was his first full healthy season.

that is not a dirty franchise. that is an average franchise. jj would like more than the average so people want to take advantage.

 

[waldoputty]

Are you sure about the suspension thing. I guessing that this may apply to the actual salary against the cap for the current year but I wonder if that would include signing bonus, which lets face it, that makes up the largest part of a lot of deals.

You don't think Agents do the same thing to owners in front of players? That's Naive.

BTW, I would be interested in reading the "rules/laws governing agencies". If you can post those, I will read over them.

Thank you.

it does not sound like these folks understand what hardball negotiations are about

 

[Corso]

i am simply saying that the cowboys needs to negotiate like a bully does in this current situation.
whether it is cursing him, talking about his mother or whatever else is irrelevant.
the big picture is simply forcing the agent into a corner so that he loses his client.

Gross.

 

[Blackspider214]

Curse at him, degrade him, talk about his wife and his mother, do whatever it takes to make Zeke realize that a deal cannot be done as long as he has the same agent.

The stupidity knows no bounds on here.

 

[Corso]

it does not sound like these folks understand what hardball negotiations are about

I've been involved in some high figure moments. It never got ugly, or threatening someone, or their loved ones.
That's amateur hour.

 

[Corso]

This guy here... I guarantee if it was my agent and one of the Jones boys threatened his wife, or mother - he'd go to those chicks in those Jerry pics and offer them some nice figures to come out ugly on him.
Go real public and press hard charges.
Then he'd go to other agents and they'll all hold a grudge because they certainly aren't going to be treated like that.
Tit for tat baby.

It's business, not mafia.

 

[waldoputty]

I've been involved in some high figure moments. It never got ugly, or threatening someone, or their loved ones.
That's amateur hour.

not threatening, except the agent knows he can lose his client
ugly often works, been on both sides of that

 

[waldoputty]

This guy here... I guarantee if it was my agent and one of the Jones boys threatened his wife, or mother - he'd go to those chicks in those Jerry pics and offer them some nice figures to come out ugly on him.
Go real public and press hard charges.
Then he'd go to other agents and they'll all hold a grudge because they certainly aren't going to be treated like that.
Tit for tat baby.

It's business, not mafia.

who the heck said threatening?

 

[Corso]

who the heck said threatening?

Okay... talk crap. That's laughable. Like that's going to intimidate an agent.
Who were you dealing with? Sisters of the Poor?

 

[Corso]

All that's going to do is make the Jones boys look like children.

 

[Corso]

Talking smack about an agent's wife... yeah buddy!
That's going to really take them places!
Thumb's up!

 

[waldoputty]

Okay... talk crap. That's laughable. Like that's going to intimidate an agent.
Who were you dealing with? Sisters of the Poor?

yes talk crap
enough crap to the point the agent is cornered.
i have been on the receiving end and giving end of that, works quite well.