What is at stake with Zeke negotiations

[Corso]

yes talk crap
enough crap to the point the agent is cornered.
i have been on the receiving end and giving end of that, works quite well.

How do you put an agent in a corner by talking about his wife? Tell me.

 

[waldoputty]

Talking smack about an agent's wife... yeah buddy!
That's going to really take them places!
Thumb's up!

whatever works.

 

[waldoputty]

How do you put an agent in a corner by talking about his wife? Tell me.

if u read the entire sentence, you should understand the gist.
the gist is to push his buttons.
whatever button it is, push it.
nothing more, nothing else.
it does not matter what it is so long as it is legal.

 

[Corso]

whatever works.

That's just it. It won't.
You're simply being petty and it's going to go public.

Exceedingly stupid premise.

 

[Corso]

if u read the entire sentence, you should understand the gist.
the gist is to push his buttons.
whatever button it is, push it.
nothing more, nothing else.
it does not matter what it is so long as it is legal.

You're kind of talking to a guy who makes his living with the help of agents.
I know how they play the game and what you're trying to say is the dumbest thing.

They will turn that stuff around so quick it will make your head swim.

 

[Hadenough]

who cares, it is the market.
so you want to run a charity?

You evidently dont understand the concept of running a business. You cant act like a dictator or people will want to take you out back and kick some sense into your head.

 

[Typhus]

You've never coached. You better win when you have the chance. They don't sign Zeke, they're gonna throw away a great opportunity. Coaches and players will be fired and cut. I may not like Garrett, but I understand the shoes he and his staff are in. Stop dickimg around Jerry and sign Zeke!

So much is true in what you say, and so much seems false in how you want to accomplish the end task, a championship.
Time is a funny thing, the older you get, the less you rely on a fundamentalists value chart.
You grab the ring while you can, while you are still within reach.
Its where Jerry is now, and a large portion of the fan base as well.

 

[Corso]

This thread should be dead and buried.
As a matter of fact, waldo should wish it was dead and buried before I looked at it.

Just stupid, stupid stuff.

Any agent will immediately take that garbage public. They will immediately turn that tactic around and take a high ground. It would make the Cowboys look so incompetent...

 

[JeffAtl]

No, it's not. Teams with suspended players will get a salary cap credit in the current season for the amount of the suspensions.

Does that include the signing bonus though?

 

[waldoputty]

You're kind of talking to a guy who makes his living with the help of agents.
I know how they play the game and what you're trying to say is the dumbest thing.

They will turn that stuff around so quick it will make your head swim.

the goal is to make the agent lose it so he loses his client.
push the buttons.
sure worked against u with the wife part.
turn the stuff around my foot.
they got no leverage.

 

[Corso]

the goal is to make the agent lose it so he loses his client.
push the buttons.
sure worked against u with the wife part.
turn the stuff around my foot.
they got no leverage.

You're giving them leverage, Ace. You just can't see it with whatever the heck is swirling through your head.
You're giving them a lot more leverage than they had.

 

[waldoputty]

You evidently dont understand the concept of running a business. You cant act like a dictator or people will want to take you out back and kick some sense into your head.

i ran many business.
sometimes u got the leverage
sometimes u dont
i have been in negotiations where i got my head taken off
i have been in negotiations where i took the other guy's lunch

 

[Corso]

the goal is to make the agent lose it so he loses his client.
push the buttons.
sure worked against u with the wife part.
turn the stuff around my foot.
they got no leverage.

You truly have not dealt with a real life professional agent.
And you probably have only negotiated with tractor salesmen and old folks trying to sell/buy a farm.

 

[waldoputty]

You're giving them leverage, Ace. You just can't see it with whatever the heck is swirling through your head.
You're giving them a lot more leverage than they had.

they have no leverage.
what is the harm of a couple well placed comments to get under someone's skin
my suggestion is simply to corner the agent so zeke has no choice but get rid of him if he wants to play.
zeke is going to be after his own benefit over his agent.
beat the hell out of the agent so the other agents know what to expect

 

[waldoputty]

You truly have not dealt with a real life professional agent.
And you probably have only negotiated with tractor salesmen and old folks trying to sell/buy a farm.

i negotiated in the tech business over intellectual property.
try again.

 

[Corso]

they have no leverage.
what is the harm of a couple well placed comments to get under someone's skin
my suggestion is simply to corner the agent so zeke has no choice but get rid of him if he wants to play.
zeke is going to be after his own benefit over his agent.
beat the hell out of the agent so the other agents know what to expect

Like I said, you have never dealt with a real agent.
None of that would get under their skin.
I know exactly the 1st words my agent would say if you went there: "I'm glad I got that recorded! Let me go ahead and hit Send to my contact at ESPN/CNN/Fox/FS1..."

 

[Corso]

i negotiated in the tech business over intellectual property.
try again.

Whatever. You're BS is BS.

 

[waldoputty]

Like I said, you have never dealt with a real agent.
None of that would get under their skin.
I know exactly the 1st words my agent would say if you went there: "I'm glad I got that recorded! Let me go ahead and hit Send to my publicist..."

in my world, negotiators do not break the law to risk their own necks.
i have no idea what type of world u live in.

 

[waldoputty]

Whatever. You're BS is BS.

do u even know what an intellectual property negotiation is like.
do tell.
u r simply empathizing with the agent because u work with them.
and the wife button was ur weakness.
pretty much proved my point.

 

[Corso]

in my world, negotiators do not break the law to risk their own necks.
i have no idea what type of world u live in.

Nothing about breaking the law. It's about how you treat business. You go totally unprofessional on the Big Stage, you're going to get dinged.
But dealing with farmers must have never put you in that situation...