What is at stake with Zeke negotiations

[fansince68]

I still believe Cooper needs to be signed first.

Why? We only saw a half season of production. Additionally, Coop's ability to prove it depends on Dak. And we all know that is iffy. Pay Zeke he's earned it. Give him a dollar more than Gurly. I think they are only 1.5 million apart. Let Dak and Amari prove it. Sign them mid season.

 

[waldoputty]

he did NOTHING TO GO WIN IT..stop making excuses , solid dont cut it

we are talking elevate the game, he should have had a good game, they sold out to stop Zeke and LET him dink and dunk move it but dont score a lot.. get some true insight on what happened... Our D sucked, our oline got manhandled, they sold out the were in the backfield all day to stop zeke. so what dak got some holllow yards and helped keep us in the game, sure but he did NOT lead us to victory.. I mean if the 32-16 keeps getting assigned to him as his glory when we all know W&Ls is team and coach Stat, then he LOST the rams game.. lmao you cant have it both ways.. Teams dare us to throw and when needed just gameplan and sell out on Zeke, Dare Dak to actually just show out and take it, he did nOT..

even more reason to have dak play without zeke in the new offense.
if dak does great, then he earned his big $ and zeke loses almost any little leverage he had.
if dak sucks, then dak's $ just went down and the team was never a contender anyway so zeke is irrelevant.

 

[LittleD]

i would go much further than that.

we gave the last offer.
that offer is null and void on sept 1 2019.
we expect him to fulfill his contract if he does not agree to the generous contract also offered.
we will not trade zeke
we have his rights for the next 2 years, and we will likely utilize the franchise tag after that to maximize the benefit to the cowboys organization.

We would only franchise Zeke is we eventually get a deal done with Dak. Dak will be franchised next season if he doesn't sign.

 

[Jipper]

sure, but spelled it out to make that clear.

sure, I concur....dalllas needs to play this one right...only get one shot at this

 

[blueblood70]

oh i never said dlaw was 'in the right'
it is that he had leverage but zeke has none.
it is a business, right?
cowboys have almost all the leverage, so they should use it just like dlaw did.
or what are you crying about?

really Zeke doesnt ?

THEN EXPLIN THE 2 CONTRACT OFFERS, HE ALREADY HAS THEM ON THE TABLE..BIG MONEY NEW CONTRACTS..


NO LEVERAGE, hes already won bro..if he had no leverage the FO would have made ZERO new offers.. man you guys are think as thieves,.. Zekes already won he has not paid one dime of the fines, has huge offer on the table hes mulling over.. he HAS WION, the HOLDOUT has worked.. him wanting another mIL maybe has slowed this down but it all in his court now.. he got the big offers had the leverage.. some fans juts cant comprehend hes won already and cant stand it..

 

[waldoputty]

We would only franchise Zeke is we eventually get a deal done with Dak. Dak will be franchised next season if he doesn't sign.

that is true, but it is a game of chicken and leverage. no one knows if dak is franchised or not.

 

[LittleD]

that is true, but it is a game of chicken and leverage. no one knows if dak is franchised or not.

very true. All of these guys want big slices of the pie and it appears not all will get a slice.

 

[blueblood70]

even more reason to have dak play without zeke in the new offense.
if dak does great, then he earned his big $ and zeke loses almost any little leverage he had.
if dak sucks, then dak's $ just went down and the team was never a contender anyway so zeke is irrelevant.

dont drink the kooliad there no NEW Offense, only tweaked version of our old one and without Zeke in a REAL Game I can promise Pollard wont be attracting game plans and Dak will suffer for it.. Zeke is Better then pollard in ANY offense, Dak is better with zeke over poalalrd the entrie team will be better with Dak, Zeke, Aamri, and Pollard..

GET IT NOW? we will drop off without zeke..you have drank the PS Koolaid, real defenses game lan for Zeke they wont for pollard, he will get some yards but his imapct wont be the same and Dak will be seeing a lot more pressure and coverages to stop HIS GAME..

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No, it's not. Teams with suspended players will get a salary cap credit in the current season for the amount of the suspensions.

How incredibly childish. Good luck getting any agent to work with you after that nonsense.

Again, nonsense. By the way, there are rules/laws governing agency. You should probably read them.

Are you sure about the suspension thing. I guessing that this may apply to the actual salary against the cap for the current year but I wonder if that would include signing bonus, which lets face it, that makes up the largest part of a lot of deals.

You don't think Agents do the same thing to owners in front of players? That's Naive.

BTW, I would be interested in reading the "rules/laws governing agencies". If you can post those, I will read over them.

Thank you.

 

[waldoputty]

really Zeke doesnt ?

THEN EXPLIN THE 2 CONTRACT OFFERS, HE ALREADY HAS THEM ON THE TABLE..BIG MONEY NEW CONTRACTS..


NO LEVERAGE, hes already won bro..if he had no leverage the FO would have made ZERO new offers.. man you guys are think as thieves,.. Zekes already won he has not paid one dime of the fines, has huge offer on the table hes mulling over.. he HAS WION, the HOLDOUT has worked.. him wanting another mIL maybe has slowed this down but it all in his court now.. he got the big offers had the leverage.. some fans juts cant comprehend hes won already and cant stand it..

yes jerry gave up that contract when zeke has no leverage.
it is called negotiating with oneself.
that does not mean he should make any more of a mistake by offering more.
what thief.
it is a business.

 

[waldoputty]

very true. All of these guys want big slices of the pie and it appears not all will get a slice.

people do not understand there is not enough money with the cap.
i root for the team, and the player is dead to me if he is not part of the team.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You've never coached. You better win when you have the chance. They don't sign Zeke, they're gonna throw away a great opportunity. Coaches and players will be fired and cut. I may not like Garrett, but I understand the shoes he and his staff are in. Stop dickimg around Jerry and sign Zeke!

Let him get fired I say. It should have happened years ago IMO but hey, I don't sign any of those checks so there is that.

 

[waldoputty]

sure, I concur....dalllas needs to play this one right...only get one shot at this

yep, they cannot afford to screw this up.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Umm ...week one please start....soon.

 

[waldoputty]

dont drink the kooliad there no NEW Offense, only tweaked version of our old one and without Zeke in a REAL Game I can promise Pollard wont be attracting game plans and Dak will suffer for it.. Zeke is Better then pollard in ANY offense, Dak is better with zeke over poalalrd the entrie team will be better with Dak, Zeke, Aamri, and Pollard..

GET IT NOW? we will drop off without zeke..you have drank the PS Koolaid, real defenses game lan for Zeke they wont for pollard, he will get some yards but his imapct wont be the same and Dak will be seeing a lot more pressure and coverages to stop HIS GAME..

oh i want to see what happens with the new offense.
that is to be determined.
and i prefer to see the offense without zeke to give dak a true audition.
if dak does great, then zeke value goes way down.
if dak does poorly even with the first 3 opponents, then dak's contract $ just went way down.
a real trial by fire.

 

[JReed1000]

Please hurry and go be a Rams Fan...Thanks

 

[aikemirv]

really Zeke doesnt ?

THEN EXPLIN THE 2 CONTRACT OFFERS, HE ALREADY HAS THEM ON THE TABLE..BIG MONEY NEW CONTRACTS..


NO LEVERAGE, hes already won bro..if he had no leverage the FO would have made ZERO new offers.. man you guys are think as thieves,.. Zekes already won he has not paid one dime of the fines, has huge offer on the table hes mulling over.. he HAS WION, the HOLDOUT has worked.. him wanting another mIL maybe has slowed this down but it all in his court now.. he got the big offers had the leverage.. some fans juts cant comprehend hes won already and cant stand it..

He has only won if he signs. He loses if he does not.

At this point Dallas, as an organization owes it to themselves to see if :
1) Dak can do it without Zeke
2) Pollard can cut the mustard

If they offer Zeke exactly what he wants they will:

1) spend more money than they should
2) Spend more money on Dak than he is worth.

The only smart move by the Cowboys right now, for their long term good, is to let the first few weeks of the season play out.

 

[waldoputty]

He has only won if he signs. He loses if he does not.

At this point Dallas, as an organization owes it to themselves to see if :
1) Dak can do it without Zeke
2) Pollard can cut the mustard

If they offer Zeke exactly what he wants they will:

1) spend more money than they should
2) Spend more money on Dak than he is worth.

The only smart move by the Cowboys right now, for their long term good, is to let the first few weeks of the season play out.

absolutely and I would pull that offer off the table.
if dak does great, then zeke value is gone and dak earned his contract
if dak does poorly even with those opponents, then dak contract value is down assuming we want to keep him.

 

[Trendnet]

Oh look .... It's this silly agenda driven thread again.
.

waldo's negotiation technique

Player - This is what I want
Waldo - Yo momma

So absurd.

 

[blueblood70]

oh i want to see what happens with the new offense.
that is to be determined.
and i prefer to see the offense without zeke to give dak a true audition.
if dak does great, then zeke value goes way down.
if dak does poorly even with the first 3 opponents, then dak's contract $ just went way down.
a real trial by fire.

too bad you are NOT the GM nor the owner,,everyone wants Zeke back and he will be here Gmae 1..so sorry to disappoint..

BTW we evaluated Dak without Zeke that 6 game stretch he was suspended..it was NOT pretty..i know new year new Eval maybe daks grown but you want your BEST 22 on the field, one of them is ZEKE.. Go play Madden, maybe you get your eay there..

experiment in the PS, game 1 is no time to experiment, Zeke needs to be here and im confident he will..