What is Dak's supposed "leverage"?

[InPhiltraitor]

The question could only be answered if you could truly get inside the head of Jerry.

History leads us to believe JJ is mucking this up which ends with him signing Dak at a price tag that’s way above the player’s value (not Dak’s fault if an idiot and his money are willing to part) essentially barring the team from conference championship games for a handful more years.

But are we 100% sure JJ’s lip service isn’t disingenuous? Of course, he’s playing the we love Dak and we’ll get a deal done card. The best salesman always wants to sell. I just recall a very decisive Jerry sentiment being, “We’ll go as far as Dak takes us”, and his “paying the bill” analogies in terms of the financial handcuffing he wants us to believe is holding the roster hostage. Any chance the old man feels spurned by playoff failures, and already has his mind made up in terms of contract numbers for Prescott. Could he low-ball him knowing he’ll decline and walk?

More than likely JJ is mucking this up as anticipated, but just maybe he has one final wildcatter move (when was the last one, really?) to play.

 

[KingCorcoran]

The question could only be answered if you could truly get inside the head of Jerry.

History leads us to believe JJ is mucking this up which ends with him signing Dak at a price tag that’s way above the player’s value (not Dak’s fault if an idiot and his money are willing to part) essentially barring the team from conference championship games for a handful more years.

But are we 100% sure JJ’s lip service isn’t disingenuous? Of course, he’s playing the we love Dak and we’ll get a deal done card. The best salesman always wants to sell. I just recall a very decisive Jerry sentiment being, “We’ll go as far as Dak takes us”, and his “paying the bill” analogies in terms of the financial handcuffing he wants us to believe is holding the roster hostage. Any chance the old man feels spurned by playoff failures, and already has his mind made up in terms of contract numbers for Prescott. Could he low-ball him knowing he’ll decline and walk?

More than likely JJ is mucking this up as anticipated, but just maybe he has one final wildcatter move (when was the last one, really?) to play.

A “low-ball” offer will be Jerry indicating to the rest of the roster they may want to try to reach free agency for the good of their careers.

 

[5Stars]

The question could only be answered if you could truly get inside the head of Jerry.

History leads us to believe JJ is mucking this up which ends with him signing Dak at a price tag that’s way above the player’s value (not Dak’s fault if an idiot and his money are willing to part) essentially barring the team from conference championship games for a handful more years.

But are we 100% sure JJ’s lip service isn’t disingenuous? Of course, he’s playing the we love Dak and we’ll get a deal done card. The best salesman always wants to sell. I just recall a very decisive Jerry sentiment being, “We’ll go as far as Dak takes us”, and his “paying the bill” analogies in terms of the financial handcuffing he wants us to believe is holding the roster hostage. Any chance the old man feels spurned by playoff failures, and already has his mind made up in terms of contract numbers for Prescott. Could he low-ball him knowing he’ll decline and walk?

More than likely JJ is mucking this up as anticipated, but just maybe he has one final wildcatter move (when was the last one, really?) to play.

Who knows what a narcissist will do? I think he will resign Dak to keep scrubbing "the rim" around that toilet bowl. If it took 10 years to find out Garrett was not the answer, hell, lets keep Dak for two or three more years.

I mean if it's not broken, why try to fix it?

 

[Sandyf]

I keep reading about Dak supposedly having leverage in contract negotiations with the Cowboys, but what does he really have?
He has to be desirable for the Cowboys to want to sign him, but why should they want him back?
He has a proven record of choking in the biggest games every season.
Cooper Rush outplayed him when he came in during Dak's injury two years ago, going 5-1.
Dak single handedly cost the Cowboys the game versus the Packers last season in the playoffs, and cost McCarthy the win in his return to Green Bay the year before.
Dak promised to bring rings to the Cowboys with his last contract, but has consistently been the reason they don't win versus good teams and in the playoffs.
So what "leverage" does he supposedly have? He has a proven record of letting the Cowboys down every time they need him.
It would seem that he should be hoping and praying that Jerry is still gullible enough to give him another chance.

Disagree, no Dak didn't cost us the game against Green Bay although he could have helped more. The defense allowed 41 points, and that was far more the problem.

 

[Adreme]

I keep reading about Dak supposedly having leverage in contract negotiations with the Cowboys, but what does he really have?
He has to be desirable for the Cowboys to want to sign him, but why should they want him back?
He has a proven record of choking in the biggest games every season.
Cooper Rush outplayed him when he came in during Dak's injury two years ago, going 5-1.
Dak single handedly cost the Cowboys the game versus the Packers last season in the playoffs, and cost McCarthy the win in his return to Green Bay the year before.
Dak promised to bring rings to the Cowboys with his last contract, but has consistently been the reason they don't win versus good teams and in the playoffs.
So what "leverage" does he supposedly have? He has a proven record of letting the Cowboys down every time they need him.
It would seem that he should be hoping and praying that Jerry is still gullible enough to give him another chance.

If wins were a QB stat sure you would be right but they are neither a QB stat nor a G stat nor a K stat. Wins are a team stat. Using wins as an individual stat is something done by those who don’t understand football and want to simplify it for them.

Dak’s leverage is that by the adult metrics he is undeniably a top 10 QB coming off an all pro season. Note that Rush is not a top 50 QB. Dak’s leverage is that we know of 2 teams that will bid for him and probably 3-4 more, at least, that might under certain circumstances (not related to money).

 

[leeblair]

If wins were a QB stat sure you would be right but they are neither a QB stat nor a G stat nor a K stat. Wins are a team stat. Using wins as an individual stat is something done by those who don’t understand football and want to simplify it for them.

Dak’s leverage is that by the adult metrics he is undeniably a top 10 QB coming off an all pro season. Note that Rush is not a top 50 QB. Dak’s leverage is that we know of 2 teams that will bid for him and probably 3-4 more, at least, that might under certain circumstances (not related to money).

Dak's "stats" mean nothing when placed next to his PROVEN history of choking in big games.
I wish he had been successful. I would love to be cheering the Cowboys and getting excited about the upcoming season.
But, we all know how the season will end; with Dak shutting down against good teams.
It's the way he is.

 

[Adreme]

Dak's "stats" mean nothing when placed next to his PROVEN history of choking in big games.
I wish he had been successful. I would love to be cheering the Cowboys and getting excited about the upcoming season.
But, we all know how the season will end; with Dak shutting down against good teams.
It's the way he is.

Dak’s stats against good teams basically mirror other top QBs (except Mahomes but if you are looking for the next Mahomes you will be disappointed). The problem is you don’t see those other teams outside of highlights so you think it’s different for them but it’s not.

Again though Dak will have a LOT of suitors, which makes sense as he would be one of the hottest QB FAs ever. The only other 3 comparisons all had major flags. Peyton was 36 off major neck surgery. Brady was 41 coming off the worst year of his career and Brees just had major surgery on his throwing arm so people wondered if he would recover. In the worst case for him Dak will be 31 2 years off being all pro which is why he will have a LOT of suitors hence leverage.

 

[Chasing6]

If wins were a QB stat sure you would be right but they are neither a QB stat nor a G stat nor a K stat. Wins are a team stat. Using wins as an individual stat is something done by those who don’t understand football and want to simplify it for them.

Dak’s leverage is that by the adult metrics he is undeniably a top 10 QB coming off an all pro season. Note that Rush is not a top 50 QB. Dak’s leverage is that we know of 2 teams that will bid for him and probably 3-4 more, at least, that might under certain circumstances (not related to money).

And don't forget Trance is not a top 90 QB.

 

[KJJ]

You can’t have more leverage than a franchise QB entering the final year of their contract and his team has nothing viable behind him.
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[Chasing6]

You can’t have more leverage than a franchise QB entering the final year of their contract and his team has nothing viable behind him.
.

It is astonishing how some people can not comprehend this.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Dak has “leverage” because his agent probably keeps putting out there that he does. If he was so pursued feelers would’ve been put out there for a trade for his services but nothing like that has been suggested even in the rumor mill.

 

[Chasing6]

Dak has “leverage” because his agent probably keeps putting out there that he does. If he was so pursued feelers would’ve been put out there for a trade for his services but nothing like that has been suggested even in the rumor mill.

Have you heard of or comprehensive what a no trade clause is?

 

[SultanOfSix]

Have you heard of or comprehensive what a no trade clause is?

That literally doesn’t mean “No Trade At All”.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

A “low-ball” offer will be Jerry indicating to the rest of the roster they may want to try to reach free agency for the good of their careers.

These guys have no qualms about hitting free agency anyway if they don’t get their bag but they wouldn’t head that direction without negotiation. Case by case “how much you gonna give ME” basis.

 

[KJJ]

It is astonishing how some people can not comprehend this.

It’s not that surprising when you look around this board and see what you’re dealing with here.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak's "stats" mean nothing when placed next to his PROVEN history of choking in big games.
I wish he had been successful. I would love to be cheering the Cowboys and getting excited about the upcoming season.
But, we all know how the season will end; with Dak shutting down against good teams.
It's the way he is.

You are right. But the thing that scares me and a lot of Cowboys fans is there is a far greater chance of there being a significant downgrade at QB once Dak is gone.

Somebody is going to pay Dak what he wants because that is the price of a franchise QB these days. We know what the Cowboys have in Dak. The Cowboys themselves should certainly know. And they would be totally insane to let him walk without a clear replacement plan. Sorry, but Trey Lance is far from a guarantee.

The crux of the problem is this: the Cowboys need better play all-around in the postseason, Dak included. But Dak's regular season play is what gives this team 12 wins per year and a home playoff game to begin with.

Dak falters in big games, but he's also the reason Dallas is in those big games to begin with. I don't have a lot of faith in this organization to adequately replace regular season Dak. A smart organization would put more pieces around him so playoff Dak is better than 2-5.

But they wallow in salary cap woes of their own creation and instead ask Dak to do even more with less. Knowing that while he is an upper-tier QB, he is not the type of QB that can carry a team on his back in the postseason. So, in summary, get ready for more of the same in 2024, like you said.

 

[leeblair]

Dak’s stats against good teams basically mirror other top QBs (except Mahomes but if you are looking for the next Mahomes you will be disappointed). The problem is you don’t see those other teams outside of highlights so you think it’s different for them but it’s not.

Again though Dak will have a LOT of suitors, which makes sense as he would be one of the hottest QB FAs ever. The only other 3 comparisons all had major flags. Peyton was 36 off major neck surgery. Brady was 41 coming off the worst year of his career and Brees just had major surgery on his throwing arm so people wondered if he would recover. In the worst case for him Dak will be 31 2 years off being all pro which is why he will have a LOT of suitors hence leverage.

I don't think many teams want a quarterback who's history shows that he freezes up against good teams.
And they will certainly use that history as a negotiating tool if they do approach him.
Moreover, if the Cowboys show the rest of the NFL that they no longer believe in Dak’s potential, other teams will take notice of that, too.
DAK HAS NO LEVERAGE! If the Cowboys send the signal to the rest of the NFL that they no longer believe in him, Dak will be lucky to get a one year "prove it" deal with another team.

 

[Chasing6]

That literally doesn’t mean “No Trade At All”.

Dak has made it pretty clear he is fine with being a FA next year. If he wanted to be traded he would have asked for one a long time ago.

Give it up already.

 

[Adreme]

And don't forget Trance is not a top 90 QB.

I mean Lance wasn’t a top 40 QB last year (as he lost his job to Darnold who is somewhere around there) but it’s possible he has improved enough to be one this year. That isn’t an unreasonable amount of growth in one year.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I keep reading about Dak supposedly having leverage in contract negotiations with the Cowboys, but what does he really have?
He has to be desirable for the Cowboys to want to sign him, but why should they want him back?
He has a proven record of choking in the biggest games every season.
Cooper Rush outplayed him when he came in during Dak's injury two years ago, going 5-1.
Dak single handedly cost the Cowboys the game versus the Packers last season in the playoffs, and cost McCarthy the win in his return to Green Bay the year before.
Dak promised to bring rings to the Cowboys with his last contract, but has consistently been the reason they don't win versus good teams and in the playoffs.
So what "leverage" does he supposedly have? He has a proven record of letting the Cowboys down every time they need him.
It would seem that he should be hoping and praying that Jerry is still gullible enough to give him another chance.

His leverage is Jerald's muleheaded belief in Dak.
Jerald is determined to prove that Dak can get us a Super Bowl.
Then all will say "That Jerry has a keen eye for talent, taking Prescott in the 4th and discovering a diamond. Hey, we need season tickets!"