What is going on with our Defensive Tackles?

[john van brocklin]

No studs and an overall lack of talent.

Boiled down quite nicely!

 

[kskboys]

Front office / coaching error then on Gallimore.
Thanks

Yup. We Ratliffed him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If we don't get one in FA, expect one on day 2 next April.

 

[kskboys]

Boiled down quite nicely!

Honestly, I'm not sure we have a starting quality DT in the bunch. Maybe Galley, but certainly not at 1 tech.

 

[kskboys]

Both are 3techs. Pretty much every scouting report said it would be a mistake to try Galimore at 1tech. They tried… it went as predicted!

And yet they're still playing him there!!!!!

 

[bonafidebanter]

Our team doesn't seem to value DTs or S. We've had some great FA signings at S, thank goodness, but DT gets neglected constantly. Low round draft picks and bargain basement FA signings look like this. DL, OL and CB should be high priority in the upcoming draft.

 

[chasecooley5308]

IMO our problem is we don't value the position enough . And when we have drafted DL they have either been the smaller/quick twitch type line man vs the Double team eating type. Bohanna being the exception. But how many years have we ignored the position In the draft and signed the JAG's in FA? Way too many years IMO.

 

[john van brocklin]

Yup. We Ratliffed him.

Ugh

 

[Kingofholland]

The Cowboys have been looking for that next great DT for a while. Osa hasn't taken the steps forward over last year we had hoped, but looks to be the best of the group. Gallimore has been dissapointing and Bohanna is just a big body that needs to get stronger.

 

[kskboys]

The Cowboys have been looking for that next great DT for a while. Osa hasn't taken the steps forward over last year we had hoped, but looks to be the best of the group. Gallimore has been dissapointing and Bohanna is just a big body that needs to get stronger.

Not very hard.

 

[john van brocklin]

Honestly, I'm not sure we have a starting quality DT in the bunch. Maybe Galley, but certainly not at 1 tech.

It certainly appears that way
Unfortunately

 

[kskboys]

It certainly appears that way
Unfortunately

Playing a 3 tech at 1 tech is like playing a LB at CB.

 

[john van brocklin]

Playing a 3 tech at 1 tech is like playing a LB at CB.

That's on the front office/ coaches
Roster construction issue.

 

[Runwildboys]

Playing a 3 tech at 1 tech is like playing a LB at CB.

Well, if that LB is Parsons...(J/K)

 

[kskboys]

That's on the front office/ coaches
Roster construction issue.

Yup. And not only that, they don't understand that the NT also needs to be athletic and quick. There is so much more to NT than simply holding a spot.

 

[kskboys]

Well, if that LB is Parsons...(J/K)

He'd get owned!!!!!!!

 

[Runwildboys]

He'd get owned!!!!!!!

That's why I said "J/K"...It means "just kidding".

 

[Dalmations202]

Here is my problem with what the Cowboys do. You can win either with size and Power, or speed and strength.
Both ways will work.

If you use size and strength on the DL, then your DE's need to get the sacks, and your LB's can use speed, more than size and strength.
If you use speed on the DL, then you need bigger LB's to be able to stack and shed because it is easy to wash out the DT's, and you know that your bigger IOL will eventually wear them out.

Get bigger but slower, and OC's go fast. Get faster and smaller, and OC's run on you. You need freaks who are bigger/stronger, and faster.

DQ's scheme seems to prefer the faster guys because it is passing that usually beats a team. They have just decided to accept that teams will run on them. They just don't have the talent to flip from a defend the pass to a defend the run team, IMO. They utilize a SS (Kearse) as an undersized Sam that covers the TE and helps in run defense, and swap the position with DWilson who also jumps in and out of a hybrid SS/Sam role.

So if you were an OC, what would you do to beat the Cowboys?
I would run on the smaller DT's, and after getting an initial move out of the DL, try to get my OL to the second level.
And I would throw shorter, quicker release passes with the occasional screen put in. When they adjust to stop the shorter routes, take my shots deep.

This is what you are seeing teams do to Dallas for the last few weeks. Dallas is just outscoring them. The bottom teams just don't have the talent to keep doing this all game long and they keep making mistakes. Which team that we play in the playoffs is going to stick to the run and just run it down the throats of Dallas? If Dallas had a thumping MLB, he could make up for lots of the lack of size on the DL. If Dallas had more size on the DL, then their LB's would be even better than they currently are -- especially if they could get a player that could allow Parsons to truly play either line or LB, which is only possible if you have a DL that can do the same or a LB that can do the other things Parsons is needed to do.

I really do like the scheme and personnel of the Dallas D except for DL and MLB. They have the DE's, they have Parsons and Clark which are dynamic with their speed. They have very good safety and CB play when everyone is healthy. They really just need one unique hard to find MLB and a talented DT or two to become elite, IMO. Then stop stunting yourself out of the play.

 

[Bagman]

Here is my problem with what the Cowboys do. You can win either with size and Power, or speed and strength.
Both ways will work.

If you use size and strength on the DL, then your DE's need to get the sacks, and your LB's can use speed, more than size and strength.
If you use speed on the DL, then you need bigger LB's to be able to stack and shed because it is easy to wash out the DT's, and you know that your bigger IOL will eventually wear them out.

Get bigger but slower, and OC's go fast. Get faster and smaller, and OC's run on you. You need freaks who are bigger/stronger, and faster.

DQ's scheme seems to prefer the faster guys because it is passing that usually beats a team. They have just decided to accept that teams will run on them. They just don't have the talent to flip from a defend the pass to a defend the run team, IMO. They utilize a SS (Kearse) as an undersized Sam that covers the TE and helps in run defense, and swap the position with DWilson who also jumps in and out of a hybrid SS/Sam role.

So if you were an OC, what would you do to beat the Cowboys?
I would run on the smaller DT's, and after getting an initial move out of the DL, try to get my OL to the second level.
And I would throw shorter, quicker release passes with the occasional screen put in. When they adjust to stop the shorter routes, take my shots deep.

This is what you are seeing teams do to Dallas for the last few weeks. Dallas is just outscoring them. The bottom teams just don't have the talent to keep doing this all game long and they keep making mistakes. Which team that we play in the playoffs is going to stick to the run and just run it down the throats of Dallas? If Dallas had a thumping MLB, he could make up for lots of the lack of size on the DL. If Dallas had more size on the DL, then their LB's would be even better than they currently are -- especially if they could get a player that could allow Parsons to truly play either line or LB, which is only possible if you have a DL that can do the same or a LB that can do the other things Parsons is needed to do.

I really do like the scheme and personnel of the Dallas D except for DL and MLB. They have the DE's, they have Parsons and Clark which are dynamic with their speed. They have very good safety and CB play when everyone is healthy. They really just need one unique hard to find MLB and a talented DT or two to become elite, IMO. Then stop stunting yourself out of the play.

Excellent post. Nailed it, brother.

 

[exciter]

And yet they're still playing him there!!!!!

Most of what I’d noticed was him mostly at 3t after they picked up Hankins. With the injury, guessing they didn’t have much of a choice. Bohana is looking to be a wash!