What Kind of Job Do You Think Wade is Doing?

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Right now I would say avg job and that is not good enough. Wade needs to get this team going. If he does then he has a good chance of staying if he fails then like any other coach out there he will be fired.
 

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Doomsday101;3017268 said:
Right now I would say avg job and that is not good enough. Wade needs to get this team going. If he does then he has a good chance of staying if he fails then like any other coach out there he will be fired.
You need to stop it right now, you are being too sensible.
 

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The team's play, in my opinion, is a reflection of the head coach's attitude. Take Mike Singletary. Sure he has flaws, but he brings a fiery attitude and it shows. Now I'm not saying we need a Mike Singletary, but what I am saying is we are in desperate need of an attitude adjustment. It just seems to me when things are going badly, they go really bad. And the funny thing is the camera guys usually pan over to Wade Phillips who has this "aww shucks" sour-puss look on his face. And I can't help but think, this guy is not a winner. He can't rally his team through adversity. That's what we are missing. I understand that players play and coaches coach. But I'm sure we have some pretty good players who need a coach who can lead and teach them how to fight through adversity. But we don't have that. Instead, we have an ivy league, used-to-be Aikman's back up and a sometimes good defensive coordinator.
 

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adbutcher;3017277 said:
You need to stop it right now, you are being too sensible.

I know it is a cruse. :lmao2:

I tend not to over react to good or bad news, try to stay steady and not ruled by emotions.
 

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Doomsday101;3017268 said:
Right now I would say avg job and that is not good enough. Wade needs to get this team going. If he does then he has a good chance of staying if he fails then like any other coach out there he will be fired.


I had to read it twice.

Oh, you mean stay during THIS season :lmao2:
 

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YoMick;3017301 said:
I had to read it twice.

Oh, you mean stay during THIS season :lmao2:

I mean if and right now it is a big if but if he does get this turned around then he deserves a lot of credit and yes his job.
 

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I would say that he is doing average.

I don't think he's doing horrible, but he's also not doing great, just mediocre, average, so-so, middle of the road, etc.
 

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I think Wade is doing a fine job. I think its the fans that are unrealistic. I figure the last couple of seasons this team came out red hot and went no where, maybe this year he fixes the team and gets it ready for december. If not, no big loss and hes gone, if so, well, only looks like a few of us understand football.
 

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sacowboysfan513;3017325 said:
I would say that he is doing average.

I don't think he's doing horrible, but he's also not doing great, just mediocre, average, so-so, middle of the road, etc.
That has been his M.O. everywere he has been a "head" coach, and that is the way this team is playing, a 8-8 record waiting for them at the end of the season.
 

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smoovb;3017279 said:
The team's play, in my opinion, is a reflection of the head coach's attitude. Take Mike Singletary. Sure he has flaws, but he brings a fiery attitude and it shows. Now I'm not saying we need a Mike Singletary, but what I am saying is we are in desperate need of an attitude adjustment. It just seems to me when things are going badly, they go really bad. And the funny thing is the camera guys usually pan over to Wade Phillips who has this "aww shucks" sour-puss look on his face. And I can't help but think, this guy is not a winner. He can't rally his team through adversity. That's what we are missing. I understand that players play and coaches coach. But I'm sure we have some pretty good players who need a coach who can lead and teach them how to fight through adversity. But we don't have that. Instead, we have an ivy league, used-to-be Aikman's back up and a sometimes good defensive coordinator.
The 49ers were on fire against the Falcons last week. The field was scorched they were so hot. Dre Bly, did you see him do a perfect, spot on, dead nuts impersonation of Deion Sanders? I had to blink to see if I had gone back in time to 1994. I kept wondering, "what is Mike Singletary doing coaching the 49ers in 1994?" It was surreal. I get goose bumps just thinking of it. Deep down I realize it is just the fire that burns in that team due to the fiery Head Coach. Like Buster Poindexter said, "feeling hot, hot, hot."
 

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I'd say average.

Too early to say if he's terrible, but it's certainly not looking good for him.
 

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Hostile;3017359 said:
The 49ers were on fire against the Falcons last week. The field was scorched they were so hot. Dre Bly, did you see him do a perfect, spot on, dead nuts impersonation of Deion Sanders? I had to blink to see if I had gone back in time to 1994. I kept wondering, "what is Mike Singletary doing coaching the 49ers in 1994?" It was surreal. I get goose bumps just thinking of it. Deep down I realize it is just the fire that burns in that team due to the fiery Head Coach. Like Buster Poindexter said, "feeling hot, hot, hot."

You know as well as I do had a Dallas DB did that and fumbled the ball in the process fans here would be hollering how undisciplined our players were and it is the coaches fault. 9ers were getting their butts kicked and the DB is show boating it only to get caught from behind and fumbled it back to the Falcons? :laugh2:
 

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Doomsday101;3017430 said:
You know as well as I do had a Dallas DB did that and fumbled the ball in the process fans here would be hollering how undisciplined our players were and it is the coaches fault. 9ers were getting their butts kicked and the DB is show boating it only to get caught from behind and fumbled it back to the Falcons? :laugh2:
I do know that. Our fans holler if a guy simply gets beat. Imagine the gall, letting a professional athlete beat you on a given play.
 

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mmohican29;3017175 said:
I think Wade is doing at present- an average job.

Unlike so many on this board who have been ready to run Wade out of town, I think the "fault" of poor performance lies on the players' shoulders.

I have yet to hear a player say... past or present... they don't like playing or performing for Wade. Now for different reasons that may be true. If a coach doesn't ask for full effort from everyone... you can have problems.

I think this Cowboys team is different in the sense that I always feel like they "want to" do well, yet don't. It may be a lack of inner confidence or the spotlight... but I think that worm can turn quickly with some victories.

I think we're closer than most people think to being a very very good team, and I think Wade's D (overaggression, big hit penalties) while not there yet is very close to being very very good.

Right now they are making up for lack of poise with intensity and that will rear it's ugly head in crunchtime, and it has time and time again. It's like microwaving something to heat it up faster... you will have mixed results with the taste, correct?

I might be in the minority, but I think this specific issue has peaked and is now on the slide beginning with the stand in OT vs KC. The D is close very, very close to being very good to excellent. I like the Defense FA acquisitions this season alot and those are Wade's guys. He's building something here, why everyone wants to burn it so quickly speaks more to our fanbase's lowered expectations of what this team can be than what is really going on in each game.

I think the offense has battled alot of injuries early.... and I don't care for Garrett's tinkering with the offense week to week. Pair it back a little Red, and we'd be ok.

I ask my Cowboys brethren for just a bit more patience and I think we might be ok and at the end of the season people may think differently of Wade Phillips than present. I wasn't thrilled with Wade's hire to begin with but I understood it. Believe it or not, I actually like Wade more now than I did when we were 13-3. I see what he's trying to accomplish and respect the way he treats his players.

Getting back to my point about the rapport Wade has with his players: it may pay dividends when the Cowboys start


a) playing slightly more poised football and
b) realize that Wade's "construction project" has to be completed on time or everyone's job is at stake.

One thing I know is a problem for the Cowboys but I can't blame Wade for necessarily: the star system at work in Dallas- contracts over performance. That is Jerry's fault. A coach should be able to play who performs best, not to validate a trade or draft selection. And yes I'm specifically thinking of the Roy11 deal. Austin needs to play the #1 role as his rapport with the QB is far beyond anything we've seen from Roy. And if that means Roy sits, then Roy sits until he contributes something on the field.

:bravo:

Absolutely outstanding post.

Like you, I think this team is trying harder than ever to do the right things. We had a tougher camp, we got rid of the divisive and selfish personalities, and we brought in team guys like Brooking.

I think the bigger problem is that we simply don't quite have enough talent compared to teams like the Giants and Eagles, plus Jerry's insistence on this co-head coach system.
 

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What's the word I'm looking for, the absolute opposite of good?

The word bad simply does do him justice.
 

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Hostile;3016971 said:
The point is, it is way too soon to write off any team unless they are 0-5. Even a 1-4 could have lightning strike and make a run. It isn't as likely.

I think people are too willing to jump ship when the waves get a little high. I'm no fan of Wade, and I think the job is way less than what I expected, but where is the fatal blow that shows this team is sunk after 5 weeks? I don't see it.

Not sure the question was "what do you think of the Cowboys chances?"

It was "What Kind of Job Do You Think Wade is Doing?"

Personally I think the team (and defense in particular) came out of camp poorly prepared. Tampa gashed us because they didn't know their blitz assignments, and the Giants had a field day because they weren't comfortable with our coverage schemes. The tackling has been poor all season, and yes I think the way Wade practices has a lot to do with that. On offense we are still way too confused before the snap, and have too many problems with blitz recognition. I know that is mostly on Jason, but again I think the team's overall practice habits have a lot to do with that too.

And this all coming out of the Training Camp that was supposed to be "different."

Not much else has changed from last year either, we still commit a zillion penalties, we still shoot ourselves in the foot with regularity, we still can hold a team down defensively for 3.5 quarters only to have them march the ball down our throats in the last two minutes when they need to. We still can't take the ball away to save our lives.

I will say the defense is improving week to week, but they should have come out of camp this way.

Overall I think the team is 3-2 because there is some talent here, and we've had a pretty favorable schedule to date. I do like the new offensive philosophy, for whatever input Wade had into that, and I do think we've gotten some bad bounces and some pretty crappy officiating. I thought this was a playoff team coming into the season, and I'm still holding out some hope there, but some of those lucky bounces need to start going our way in a hurry.

So overall, no I don't think Wade is doing a particularly good coaching job to date. That doesn't doom the team, nor am I packing in the season, but for all of the change we were promised this offseason this looks like a very similar version of last year's team just with less finger pointing. We'll go as far as the talent on the team takes us.

That said I'm not keen on firing mid-season either, at least until we are mathematically eliminated, as that would just be tanking the season. This isn't baseball. (although I wouldn't cry over it either)
 

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Given that he should never have been hired in the first place and he's working within a no win situation/framework, I think he's doing quite well.
 

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Juke99;3017567 said:
Given that he should never have been hired in the first place and he's working within a no win situation/framework, I think he's doing quite well.
Yea, when you put it like that, maybe he is not doing such a bad, job after all.
 

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jgboys1;3017570 said:
Yea, when you put it like that, maybe he is not doing such a bad, job after all.

Actually, he's not even the head coach. He probably has next to zero input with the offense. And then to top it off, he's got Jerry there who all the players realize is the "go to" guy. Tough spot.
 
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