What Kind of Job Do You Think Wade is Doing?

[Chocolate Lab]

So no matter what this team does?

Good to see a closed mind fan, who is more interested in an agenda that the betterment of the team. I have no issue firing Phillips or any HC if they fail to do the job but for anyone to sit there and say that even if they do the job they need to go only proves that maybe the only joke is that fan.

That's it in a nutshell. We've already seen that most people have already made up their minds and no amount of evidence will change what they think.

Just look at all the people who blame him for all losses but then say "If we win it will be in spite of him" on the wins. Nice setup.

Never mind, tired of talking about Parcells.

It's just an interesting phenomenon. People can't be rational about it.

 

[coblue]

I am going to say very poor because it was crystal clear from day 1 of the offseason that he and his staff had only one task - to instill discipline and responsibility into the players - and they have failed miserably.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's it in a nutshell. We've already seen that most people have already made up their minds and no amount of evidence will change what they think.

Just look at all the people who blame him for all losses but then say "If we win it will be in spite of him" on the wins. Nice setup.

Look at someone in this thread with the "almosts" when Bill was here. We "would've" beaten Seattle if we'd only gotten one snap down. I think we all know that if Wade had been coaching that team, he would've gotten all the blame for Romo dropping that snap due to sloppy play, or being soft, or lack of discipline, or something. Nobody said that about the old coach. That team got close and almost did it, so props to them... This team loses like that and it's not detail oriented, or doesn't hit enough, or there's no accountability, or something.

It's just an interesting phenomenon. People can't be rational about it.

I agree. While I understand frustration and agree that Phillips job is on the line what I don't get is this attitude of now it does not matter if we win or lose he needs to go. It seems more about being right then what is best for the team. I don't have a crystal ball that shows me how this team will fair as we come out of the break so to say right now with any certainty Wade will fail or not is pre-mature.

 

[wileedog]

I think we all know that if Wade had been coaching that team, he would've gotten all the blame for Romo dropping that snap due to sloppy play, or being soft, or lack of discipline, or something. .

Nonsense. Really, putting words in people's mouth's doesn't work either way.

Going 10-6 doesn't make someone automatically a better coach than the guy who goes 8-8. As the Wade Defense League likes to point out, its the players, and at the end of the day they are right. The guys with pads on need to execute.

But many people don't like the way Wade coaches. Soft practices, the way he handles players, constantly looking unprepared, lack of accountability. I fully realize he's put in a near no win situation with Jerry, but I think he's the wrong guy for the job anyway.

Even if we go deep into the playoffs, it doesn't change my mind that I don't like the way Wade approaches being an NFL Head Coach, and for every fluky year he might actually get in or do something in the playoffs there will be several more disasters like last year.

My mind wasn't made up when he was hired, because I was willing to give him a chance to build a dominant defense. 2 and half years later we're happy we're "better" than we were 5 weeks ago when possibly the worst team in football gashed us for 400+ yards.

44-6 is when I made up my mind. Having Wade here another year is just a wasted season. We're past 'evaluation mode' when the team completely disintegrates in the 2nd year and is struggling to beat teams who are a combined 1-14 in the third.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

See, you proved my point. You've already made up my mind.

And it's funny to claim that people wouldn't blame Wade if Romo dropped that snap. LOL kind of funny, in fact.

 

[wileedog]

See, you proved my point. You've already made up my mind.

And it's funny to claim that people wouldn't blame Wade if Romo dropped that snap. LOL kind of funny, in fact.

Really? Did anyone blame Bill who had an equal amount of just as vocal detractors?

"******, Bill worked Tony too hard during the season and his fingers were tired!"

And yes, I've made up my mind because I don't think a fluky run into the playoffs this year proves he is going to be a consistently good coach year over year when I have 2 and half years of evidence that says otherwise (not to mention the rest of his career).

Lots of people did the same with Parcells. If Tony hadn't dropped the snap and we won that game, do you think all of his detractors would just say "well I guess he's not too old. conservative, and the game hasn't passed him by after all! Stay as long as you like Bill!"

Doubtful.

Lots of people just didn't like Parcell's brand of football. I don't like Wade's. and I don't think it is conducive to consistent success. His track record bears that out. I gave him a chance and he gave me 44-6, and this year OT with the Chiefs. At what point are we allowed to make a decision? Do we need to wait until the last whistle of the last game?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You can make up your mind at the introductory press conference if you like, wilee. Doesn't matter to me. I was just saying that most people make up their mind and then look for evidence to support their opinion rather than observing and then discussing it with an open mind.

And Wade has way more haters than Bill. Bill had some, sure, but it's not even remotely close. (And I know, Wade deserves more, etc.)

 

[Doomsday101]

Really? Did anyone blame Bill who had an equal amount of just as vocal detractors?

"******, Bill worked Tony too hard during the season and his fingers were tired!"

And yes, I've made up my mind because I don't think a fluky run into the playoffs this year proves he is going to be a consistently good coach year over year when I have 2 and half years of evidence that says otherwise (not to mention the rest of his career).

Lots of people did the same with Parcells. If Tony hadn't dropped the snap and we won that game, do you think all of his detractors would just say "well I guess he's not too old. conservative, and the game hasn't passed him by after all! Stay as long as you like Bill!"

Doubtful.

Lots of people just didn't like Parcell's brand of football. I don't like Wade's. and I don't think it is conducive to consistent success. His track record bears that out. I gave him a chance and he gave me 44-6, and this year OT with the Chiefs. At what point are we allowed to make a decision? Do we need to wait until the last whistle of the last game?

And you felt those people were wrong? I would agree I liked having BP here but it was his choice to leave I would have loved for him to have stayed a while longer but he didn't. Wade has been with us 2 season both 13-3 and 9-7 sitting currently at 3-2 I don't know how this will play out since what took place before has no real bearing on how things will turn out now. To say a coach lost a post season game 4 times in a row so he will never be able to win a post season game is ridicules

 

[jimmy40]

Blow.

 

[wileedog]

And you felt those people were wrong?

Yes, as I'm sure you think I am now. Although I will admit as time has passed some of the criticisms seem more valid to me now.

I don't know how this will play out since what took place before has no real bearing on how things will turn out now. To say a coach lost a post season game 4 times in a row so he will never be able to win a post season game is ridicules

Yes, past performance is no guarantee of future results, I just don't see what else I'm going to learn about Wade from the next 11 games that I already don't know from the last 37. And the trendline is not going in the right direction.

Hey if he wins a Superbowl this year I'll happily put up with him for a few more years. But otherwise I think this discussion is probably moot anyway.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes, as I'm sure you think I am now. Although I will admit as time has passed some of the criticisms seem more valid to me now.



Yes, past performance is no guarantee of future results, I just don't see what else I'm going to learn about Wade from the next 11 games that I already don't know from the last 37. And the trendline is not going in the right direction.

Hey if he wins a Superbowl this year I'll happily put up with him for a few more years. But otherwise I think this discussion is probably moot anyway.

In the end you may be right, I don't pretent to have a crystal ball. What I do know is the Cowboys will play these remaining 11 games and if Wade and this staff can get these guys to execute and cut down on their mistakes they have a good chance of winning a lot of games if not then they will not win. The final outcome is a guess no script and nothing carved in stone it is this team with these players and we will all find out.