What Makes Dak Irreplaceable?

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If you don't have an elite guy at that position then you owe it to your team to not hamstring them with the non-elite guy. Plain and simple.
so lets get an elite guy. there are about 2, at most 3 elite guys in the NFL. I will wait for your suggestions.

you are just griping for the sake of griping. you have no idea. you just want to complain. if that's the case. then just complain, don't try to disguise it with logic. because its impossible.
 

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I'm not "suggesting" anything. I am explicitly saying that you asking us to compare Dak's production after 8 years of investment to the market is a deliberately disingenuous argument. A fairer question is: Who can do THE SAME OR BETTER AFTER 8 YEARS OF INVESTMENT? Dak has already been passed by people who came in after him...so the question answers itself...when posed with some intellectual honesty.
Dak is a top 10 QB. this has been argued to death. and he is what he is. then what's your suggestion? invest in Rush? really........
and btw, you just described 30 of the NFL QBs. there are about 2, at most 3 Elite QBs. done. the rest. take your pick. every other one has flaws.
 

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18 pages? Good grief.

What Makes Dak Irreplaceable?​

Not 'what'. It is 'who'. Answer:

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The man is a football genius. That is what he tells himself, when he wears his Gold Jacket and stares at his reflection in the mirror.

Trey Lance will only factor into his short-term strategy only if Dak Prescott is sidelined indefinitely and Lance performs at or above the level Prescott demonstrated in 2016. And Lance can be substituted for those two required conditions with a possible quarterback drafted in the mid-or-lower rounds or picked up as an undrafted free agent.

Tony Romo had 100% of his support before his 2016 preseason injury. Prescott has his 100% support now. Not appreciating how others feel the same about Prescott as Jones does will not change Jones' stance. People will have 'better' luck buying a Jones or Prescott voodoo dolls, grab a hammer and start driving nails into them.

Nothing wrong with anyone disagreeing with Jones' opinion. That's life but not paying attention to how he judges quarterbacks over nearly 35 years and thinking something else will run counter to it is not his fault. That conclusion is something rhyming with a river following through Egypt.
 

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Draft and keep drafting. If you don't have one keep drafting. Why would you saddle your team with a less than optimal QB?
so if you don't have an elite QB. you just keep drafting. that's it!?
so lets not invest in building around the QB and help him. just expect him to be superman.

have you seen Mahomes struggle this year?

essentially you just admited you have no solution, lack understanding football and your only way to a superbowl is having an elite QB. as I said, right now there are about 2 elite QBs.
so perhaps the other 30 teams should just quit playing. lets just have a single game between the two teams with Elite QB and be done with the season!!!

sheesh!!
 

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so if you don't have an elite QB. you just keep drafting. that's it!?
so lets not invest in building around the QB and help him. just expect him to be superman.

have you seen Mahomes struggle this year?

essentially you just admited you have no solution, lack understanding football and your only way to a superbowl is having an elite QB. as I said, right now there are about 2 elite QBs.
so perhaps the other 30 teams should just quit playing. lets just have a single game between the two teams with Elite QB and be done with the season!!!

sheesh!!
You have limited dollars and building a team around said QB is expensive. So it would stand to reason that unless you have an elite in the position you are better served by bolstering your team in other areas not competing with who can pay the most for the average QB.
 

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Dak is a top 10 QB. this has been argued to death. and he is what he is. then what's your suggestion? invest in Rush? really........
and btw, you just described 30 of the NFL QBs. there are about 2, at most 3 Elite QBs. done. the rest. take your pick. every other one has flaws.
No, YOU THINK Dak is a "top 10 QB". By the way, that's a made up category. There are 32 starting QBs, and Dak is in the top 30%...but he's hard to replace? Thus the expression, "lies, damned lies and statistics..."...if that can even be considered a "stat".

The 49ers kept at it until they found the guy they wanted...not good enough. Same with Eagles when they had Wentz. Rams with Goff. I could go on...but a scarcity mindset is what creates codependency. I'd rather be the battered housewife who is afraid to leave because "what's better than the man who only beats me sometimes...".
 

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You have limited dollars and building a team around said QB is expensive. So it would stand to reason that unless you have an elite in the position you are better served by bolstering your team in other areas not competing with who can pay the most for the average QB.
Again, your only solution is either you have an elite QB or you have no chance

16 QBs make 30M or more per year.
12 QBs make 40M or more per year.

So essentially nobody but KC and Cinci has a chance since those teams have elite QBs. Maybe Allen. Screw NFC. No elite QBs.

So let's just hand the Championship out to o e of those three teams.

Also, you knowledge of NFL QB market and salary cap management is limited
 

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so if you don't have an elite QB. you just keep drafting. that's it!?
so lets not invest in building around the QB and help him. just expect him to be superman.

have you seen Mahomes struggle this year?

essentially you just admited you have no solution, lack understanding football and your only way to a superbowl is having an elite QB. as I said, right now there are about 2 elite QBs.
so perhaps the other 30 teams should just quit playing. lets just have a single game between the two teams with Elite QB and be done with the season!!!

sheesh!!
Jerry and co. have no idea how to build a great team around the QB either.

We haven’t drafted a QB in the first round in over 30 years. We have only drafted one QB in rounds 1-3 in 30 years (QC).

This approach isn’t working but let’s just keep ignoring it and hope we can get a good enough QB on day 3 of the draft or later and then futilely try to build an all-star team around him.
 

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No, YOU THINK Dak is a "top 10 QB". By the way, that's a made up category. There are 32 starting QBs, and Dak is in the top 30%...but he's hard to replace? Thus the expression, "lies, damned lies and statistics..."...if that can even be considered a "stat".

The 49ers kept at it until they found the guy they wanted...not good enough. Same with Eagles when they had Wentz. Rams with Goff. I could go on...but a scarcity mindset is what creates codependency. I'd rather be the battered housewife who is afraid to leave because "what's better than the man who only beats me sometimes...".
You don't like the top 10 categorization because it doesn't fit your narrative.

But based on your categorization that's about 10 teams in the NFL...oh wait. That's top 10 LOL

Dak is replaceable. Let's find him. Never said we shouldn't. So you are crawling up the wrong tree
 

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You don't like the top 10 categorization because it doesn't fit your narrative.

But based on your categorization that's about 10 teams in the NFL...oh wait. That's top 10 LOL

Dak is replaceable. Let's find him. Never said we shouldn't. So you are crawling up the wrong tree
you're the one MAKING UP a narrative. Why "10"? Again, 10 out of 32 is NOT SPECIAL. If someone says, "this person scored in the top 30% of their class..." it's not damning, but it's also should raise concerns about why the bar was set so low at 30%. Why not use Top 5 as the measure?

So again, no one has to adhere to YOUR MADE UP LIST NARRATIVE. You've lost the plot...those are made up categories for people to argue in barbershops and bars.
 

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I don't disagree that you need other parts to work. But if we are claiming that everyone else needs to perform to a level is the QB performing to that level? Can anyone look at Dak's record so far 8 years into his career and say that he is a difference maker?
I don't think we need much. But the same issue I have with Andy Reid, and wide receivers, or skill position players I have with Jerry Jones, and defensive tackles. If we had high-end DTs teams could not run against us. As long as they can run through the middle we can be beat by any good team at any time. All they do is pound us where we are soft. Who's our best guy Hankins? And he's washed up. Imagine if we had even 1 elite DT? We have invested somewhat in linebackers, but we could use a great middle linebacker. It makes a huge difference. Our window is closing on Prescott, and this defense that is decent. Why not splurge for 1 year unless it's about being good for many years, but never being great for 1. Maybe it's a money thing, and not really about winning Super Bowl's anymore.
 

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He's a fringe top 10 QB, just slightly above average because he's really good at home offset by bad on the road.
He’s had a couple of bad road games against SF and Buffalo. If you think he’s only a fringe top 10 QB your insight is extremely skewed or you simply don’t like him. He’s easily been a top 5 QB this season.
 

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He’s had a couple of bad road games against SF and Buffalo. If you think he’s only a fringe top 10 QB your insight is extremely skewed or you simply don’t like him. He’s easily been a top 5 QB this season.
He also stunk against the Cardinals. You're trying to excuse him playing bad against good teams but overlooking that he only played good against bad teams, Philly is the exception but their defense has been so bad they replaced the DC in the middle of the season which is unheard of. They're a bottom 10 defense. Our strength of victory is .387 the only team with a winning record in the NFL with a worse SOV is Miami and they just beat us. You're not a top 5 QB just by exclusively beating bad teams at home.

If Aaron Rodgers played and if Burrow didn't get hurt nobody is putting him near the top 5.
 
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