What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees?

[Galian Beast]

What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees is probably the qualities he has that has many comparing him to Favre.

Funny that both Favre and Romo reduced their turnovers this year.

 

[Galian Beast]

We've greatly ignored to offensive line position and that is why we struggle with it today.

We haven't spent a 1st round draft pick on an offensive linemen in years.

I should stop forgetting that we have drafted Brewster, so hopefully he becomes a player for us as well.

James Marten was a bust. As were Rogers and Peterman.

But the fact is we should be drafting offensive linemen EVERY year. Nearly 1/5th of are roster is offensive linemen or backup offensive linemen (I know we don't usually have 10 linemen on the 53 man roster, probably closer to 8)

If you look at the patriots, their starting line is riddled with their draft picks.

Our drafted players are Gurode and Adams.

Adams is washed up. And everyone on the line is getting old, with little to no depth to speak of.

Our offense has spent a lot on developing skill position players, but not linemen.

RB - 1st rd, 4th rd, 4th rd
WR - 1st rd, 3rd rd, 7th rd, 7th rd
TE - 2nd rd, 3rd rd, 5th rd? (2nd rd fasano)

We have to make drastic changes to our offensive line starting, and depth wise.

Just like we did in our secondary.

 

[Four]

dude, seriously, you already started a thread about the oline sucking.

keep this thread about romo and manning and brees. I mean thats why you started it right? If you wanted to talk about the oline you had that other thread about it going. I mean...no one starts new threads just so they get more attention right? certainly not you, you love the team.

 

[KJJ]

Funny that both Favre and Romo reduced their turnovers this year.

Yeah but as usual with those two their turnovers helped cost their teams in the playoffs.

 

[Galian Beast]

Yeah but as usual with those two their turnovers helped cost their teams in the playoffs.

Romo's turnovers weren't at all on him...

 

[SDCowboy]

Yeah but as usual with those two their turnovers helped cost their teams in the playoffs.

*facepalm* Romo did not cost us the win in any way shape or form.

 

[Galian Beast]

dude, seriously, you already started a thread about the oline sucking.

keep this thread about romo and manning and brees. I mean thats why you started it right? If you wanted to talk about the oline you had that other thread about it going. I mean...no one starts new threads just so they get more attention right? certainly not you, you love the team.

The other thread was about Flozell Adams. This thread is about the entire offensive line holding Romo back.

And you're right. I do love the team.

 

[Aikbach]

Brees doesn't have a number one receiver, just a stable of number twos but they catch most of his passes which is helpful and keeps drives going.

Number one wideouts are not a necessity if you spread the ball successfully.

 

[Galian Beast]

Brees doesn't have a number one receiver, just a stable of number twos but they catch most of his passes which is helpful and keeps drives going.

Number one wideouts are not a necessity if you spread the ball successfully.

I think Colston is a #1

 

[Four]

I think Colston is a #1

colston is a roy williams clone with less speed.

Do you watch the nfl or do you let espn tell you who's good?

 

[SDCowboy]

colston is a roy williams clone with less speed.

Do you watch the nfl or do you let espn tell you who's good?

With one glaring difference. He catches the ball. That's a WRs #1 duty regardless of speed.

 

[Four]

It's not a skill thing with roy, it's mental. It's not all on him either.

Roy has magic hands, he has keyshawn hands(which were amazing regardless of opinion). He and tony need to learn some things about each other.

but if tony and roy get on the same page, Roy is twice the receiver colston is.

 

[AKATheRake]

I don't think we can change the offensive line the way that it probably needs to be changed very quickly.

At the most, a couple of changes could possibly be expected. One would most likely be Doug Free taking over for Flozell Adams, but there's some risk involved in that change. The other would be drafting an interior player in the first round (Mike Iupati or Maurkice Pouncey) and having him compete with Kyle Kosier for the starting job at left guard.

I don't think expecting more than that is anywhere close to realistic.

Well, if we can pick up a safety in FA like Atogwe, re-sign Sensy and get rid of Hamlin that takes care of safety through FA.

If we sign one of the big NT's like Jamal Williams and Terrance Cody slips to the 3rd for us to draft, that will give us options along the d-line since Bowen and Hatcher are tendered and can back up Igor and Rat. If Spears gets signed elsewhere we have another 2nd. If Sensy gets signed elsewhere we have another 2nd.

So that could leave our first 2 picks in the draft to go after offensive lineman where there is an abundance of quality this season. Especially if safety and d-line get taken care of in FA. None of the FA o-lineman are intriguing this year so that draft is by far the better option in that regard.

I think it's fair to say we would add a lot of youth and much needed talent in our weaker roster area's if this is our off season. Its really not unrealistic at all.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

we have two stud o-linemen whether you like them or not.

 

[KJJ]

Romo's turnovers weren't at all on him...

When a QB fumbles the ball it's on them whether they had time or not. They have the ball in their hands and they have to hang on to it. Take the sack but don't magnify the problem by fumbling.

 

[SDCowboy]

When a QB fumbles the ball it's on them whether they had time or not. They have the ball in their hands and they have to hang on to it. Take the sack but don't magnify the problem by fumbling.

Getting pummeled all game will do that to you. He didn't even have time to complete his 3 step drop before getting hit or having to run for his life. If you honestly think Romo cost us the game in any way, you don't have a grasp on the game.

 

[KJJ]

Getting pummeled all game will do that to you. He didn't even have time to complete his 3 step drop before getting hit or having to run for his life. If you honestly think Romo cost us the game in any way, you don't have a grasp on the game.

He was certainly not the only reason the Cowboys lost but he was part of the reason. Regardless that he got pummeled he turned the ball over 3 times and the QB has to take some responsibility for their turnovers. One of his fumbles was inexcusable because he was almost on the ground and just let the ball go. He has small hands and can't seem to get a grip of the football. You might want to go back and review that fumble and tell me he wasn't at fault on that.

 

[SDCowboy]

He was certainly not the only reason the Cowboys lost but he was part of the reason. Regardless that he got pummeled he turned the ball over 3 times and the QB has to take some responsibility for their turnovers. One of his fumbles was inexcusable because he was almost on the ground and just let the ball go. He has small hands and can't seem to get a grip of the football. You might want to go back and review that fumble and tell me he wasn't at fault on that.

That first fumble wasn't even a real fumble. He was clearly down. As for the others, they happen. They had little to do with the loss. We got blown the **** out. Even if those drives had resulted in TDs (which is a stretch) would still wouldn't have won. Favre's and Manning's INTs are example of game losing turnovers.

 

[KJJ]

That first fumble wasn't even a real fumble. He was clearly down. As for the others, they happen. They had little to do with the loss. We got blown the **** out. Even if those drives had resulted in TDs (which is a stretch) would still wouldn't have won. Favre's and Manning's INTs are example of game losing turnovers.

Favre's and Manning's int's were devastating to their teams and I'm not putting Romo's turnovers against the Vikings in that category but they killed our drives and gave the ball right back to them. Had those drives resulted in TD's instead of turnovers it might have changed the momentum and spurred the team on. Turnovers hurt your team and inspire the opponent. As for fumbles happening they happen to Romo alot and his overall turnover ratio is a concern when you look at Favre who's played 19 years and has every passing record in the book but only has one championship. Favre's only title came against Bledsoe another turnover machine who had 4 int's in that SB. Joe Montana only had around 2 lost fumbles in his entire career. Romo has alot of talent and is a playmaker but he is known for the big mistake at the worst time and it is troubling. It's the big mistakes that kept Danny White from leading the Cowboys to a championship.

You can be teased year after year with QB's like Romo and Favre who can put the big numbers up but get foiled in the end by their own turnovers. Like I said I'm not putting that entire game on Romo but his turnovers didn't help our chances any that day. Favre played flawlessly against the Cowboys and won but he made ONE mistake the following week at the worst time that cost his team. He's done that over and over again throughout his career and up to this point Romo has the same disturbing trend but he gives you fumbles along with int's. If you saw the pro bowl Romo made another one of those brain fart throws we see with him that led to a stupid pick. Romo did cut down on his turnovers last season so let's hope he continues to improve because the Cowboys rarely ever win when he turns the ball over multiple times.

 

[the truth of it all]

lol are you serious.? Jason Garrett is what seperates them.. And some raw talent. He will always be just a notch below.. but yeah JG man.