What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees?

[5Stars]

Romo had some issues throwing to keyshawn because keyshawn was never open. Even though keyshawn was always open, at least the window was there.

I don't get it, I don't know why it is what it is, but roy is a good player, tony is a good player. It has to be chemistry.

Roy is a first round pick, that we gave up a first and a third for. Stephen was right there with his dad as those contracts got signed.

There is a reason they thought he was worth that much. I don't buy the desperate jerry angle.

Yeah, you really know what you are talking about!

So, was Keyshawn never open, or was he always open?

Also, just because Stephen and Jerry were there when Roy was signed does not mean a damn thing about whether he would work out or not. Mistakes are made at times.

Sometimes you make little to no sense at all.

 

[Rampage]

Romo had some issues throwing to keyshawn because keyshawn was never open. Even though keyshawn was always open, at least the window was there.

I don't get it, I don't know why it is what it is, but roy is a good player, tony is a good player. It has to be chemistry.

Roy is a first round pick, that we gave up a first and a third for. Stephen was right there with his dad as those contracts got signed.

There is a reason they thought he was worth that much. I don't buy the desperate jerry angle.

1st off Romo never played with Keyshawn. 2nd Roy runs routes like **** and is rarely where he is supposed to be. that's why Romo misses him in every way.(high,low,overthrow,underthrow) Witten is where he is supposed to be and that's why almost every pass to Witten is right on the money. the same goes for every other receiver on the team. Roy needs to stop being lazy and accept help from hall of fame wrs like Michael Irvin when it's offered and learn how to run routes. he also needs to stop thinking so much and just catch the damn ball. Roy needs to step his game up or he might only see 1 more year of big money.

 

[SDCowboy]

he is a long strider, those guys never run precise routes because they can't their strides are too long for tight cuts.

He is going to round routes out some, anyone who ever watched him play knew that.

If he isn't going to run routes correctly then he damn well better be able to catch the ball. He can do neither.

 

[big dog cowboy]

FWIW....

M. Colston > R. Williams

Please people!!!

 

[MONT17]

By the time Romo fans get the perfect OLine, the perfect backup OLinemen, the perfect WRs, the perfect Coordinator, the perfect head Coach, the perfect Running Back, the perfect position coach, the perfect "anything else" Romo needs to be an Elite QB... Dude will be 40 yrs old! Great QBs make the players around them play at a higher level bc they believe! The oline is not poor they just quit on their QB as did the rest of the team...

Anyone have a stat comparing how many times Manning and Brees teams quit on them?

 

[dadymat]

1st off Romo never played with Keyshawn. 2nd Roy runs routes like **** and is rarely where he is supposed to be. that's why Romo misses him in every way.(high,low,overthrow,underthrow) Witten is where he is supposed to be and that's why almost every pass to Witten is right on the money. the same goes for every other receiver on the team. Roy needs to stop being lazy and accept help from hall of fame wrs like Michael Irvin when it's offered and learn how to run routes. he also needs to stop thinking so much and just catch the damn ball. Roy needs to step his game up or he might only see 1 more year of big money.

FTW..........

 

[Galian Beast]

FTW..........

yessir

 

[CoolNClutch]

In talking about pure talent... neither Brees or Romo have what Manning has. Manning is the prototypical QB size and has the desired arm strength. While Romo and Brees have strong arms, they aren't what teams typically look for. Ditto for their size. Both are just a little over 6 foot tall.

Both Romo and Brees are shorter QB's who have less than perfect arm strength. Where they excel is in the accuracy department, football smarts, athleticism, and heart.

To say that Brees has the raw talent and Romo does not is simply BS. I'll buy that for Manning, but Brees? No way. Both he and Romo have similar physical flaws, and they both overcome those limitations in similar fashion.

I disagree. While Brees is undersized, he has a great arm (better than Romo's) plus his mechanics are better, which is why he was still a high draft pick/top QB prospect coming out of college. Watch them play and you can see who is the better pure QB - Brees has excellent footwork and is more orthodox.

 

[Sarge]

Romo had some issues throwing to keyshawn because keyshawn was never open. .

 

[CoolNClutch]

Romo is our Offense. We saw what happens with him out, we get blown out by a 3-13 Rams team. To say Romo isn't the offense is ludicrous. And less command than Manning on offense? Seriously? Romo and Peyton always have extremely similar stats and Manning's team only throws the ball. I don't think some people realize just how much Romo makes up for on this team.

That's why it's hard to explain other than watching the game itself - stats don't tell everything. I put Brees and Manning in a different category than Tom Brady too. Romo is more of a Tom Brady for this offense than he is a Brees/Manning.

 

[Scranton Tiger]

What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees?

A ring

Really? I thought it was the fact that Romo won his first playoff game faster than either of those two. His fourth year as a starter. Brees didn't win a playoff game until his fifth year starting. Manning didn't win one until his sixth year starting. And yes, Brees and Manning both have a ring. It took Brees eight years starting until his championship. It took Manning nine years starting. Let our team and Romo our quarterback develop into champions just like the coaches and fans of Brees and Manning did. FYI

 

[5Stars]

What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees?


Really? I thought it was the fact that Romo won his first playoff game faster than either of those two. His fourth year as a starter. Brees didn't win a playoff game until his fifth year starting. Manning didn't win one until his sixth year starting. And yes, Brees and Manning both have a ring. It took Brees eight years starting until his championship. It took Manning nine years starting. Let our team and Romo our quarterback develop into champions just like the coaches and fans of Brees and Manning did. FYI

Finally...someone that gets itt!

 

[Four]

Yeah, you really know what you are talking about!

So, was Keyshawn never open, or was he always open?

Also, just because Stephen and Jerry were there when Roy was signed does not mean a damn thing about whether he would work out or not. Mistakes are made at times.

Sometimes you make little to no sense at all.

dude, look, I am a smart ***. I use circular crap all the time to prove a point.

The point there was both of them were right. Key wasn't open in the traditional sense, but because of the kind of body control and hands key had he was open.

that stephen and jerry were there proves that they thought he was worth that much. There is a reason they felt that way. So, logically, to say "ROY SUCKS" is pretty rahtarded.

I blame chemistry, most other put it all on roy and him not practicing hard enough or using the right hand lotion.

Those who dislike someone on the team find reasons to dislike them more. No one here has a clue how hard roy practices. No one really knows what the deal is.

My point is there is a verifiable history of Roy being a very good player. He didn't sign with us and suck. That is literally the argument of 90 percent of the detractors. Actually with all the players. They have a bad year and they suck and need to go riight then. They weren't hurt, they don't try and I don't want them on "my" team.

I love you guys.

 

[Bleu Star]

What separates Romo from being Manning or Brees?

They are always in sync with their respective OCs. Romo and Garrett still have some growth to endure together. Sometimes you would think that Sean Payton is controlling the impulses in the mind of Drew. Payton Manning is always in sync with his OC.

 

[forever22]

Those stats might be a bit underplayed. Romo has to make more plays running for his life. If he was more a pocket passer, he'd have even worse numbers, when blitzed.

Romo is the QB and a very good one. I don't care if he's the best or not. He made great strides in learning to be better and I believe he can lead the Cowboys to a SB. No QB does it by himself, so put a good, SMART team around him and they'll win.

 

[Mr.davon24]

At first I thought it was a #2 wide receiver who has a higher catch percentage. And I still strongly believe this is the case. We had way too many dropped passes last year.

But under further review of the offensive line, and comparison to other elite quarterbacks I see that the offensive line play is a stronger indicator of what separates Romo from the other elite quarterbacks.

Tony Romo - 675 drop backs, 217 plays under pressure, 280 blitzes.

Let me explain what this means first.

It means that Tony Romo dropped back to pass 675 (and either passed, ran, or was sacked, but did not hand the ball off to a running back).

Of those 675 plays he was blitzed 280 times.

Romo's QB rating while being blitzed is 92.1
Romo's QB rating while under pressure is 71.5
Romo's QB rating with no pressure is 105.7

This means when teams blitzed romo, his qb rating was 92.1, when teams either failed to pick up the blitz, or just got to romo his qb rating drops to 71.5

When teams aren't blitzing him, and aren't getting to him his qb rating is 105.7.

Peyton Manning - drop backs - 715, 162 plays under pressure, 203 blitzes.

Peyton Manning's QB rating while being blitzed is 93.6
Peyton Manning's QB rating while under pressure is 77.2
Peyton Manning's QB rating with no pressure is 105.8

These numbers are nearly QB ratings are nearly identical to Romo's. Romo's QB rating is slightly lower under pressure, but the key is that Romo had 55 more plays over the year under pressure, with 35 LESS drop backs.


Drew Brees - Drop backs - 643, 167 plays under pressure, 158 blitzes.

Drew Brees's QB rating while being blitzed is 108.1
Drew Brees's QB rating while under pressure is 73.7
Drew Brees's QB rating with no pressure is 122.2

Drew Brees was probably the best qb last year, but his under pressure qb rating is almost the same as Romo's. I would say Romo is much closer to Peyton Manning right now than he is Drew Brees. But the difference isn't as great as it might seem.

Romo's numbers are nearly identical to Peyton Manning's. I think it can be really argued that Romo had a better year individually. If Romo was behind Peyton Manning's offensive line he would probably be a super bowl champion right now.

You have got to believe that we need players who can pass block better. That is our most glaring need.

Note: The stats come from ProFootballFocus.com, not NFL.com, I've seen some inconsistencies, that I do not quite understand. But I guess thats what happens when you have different people tracking stats, that said, the site seems very credible.

IMO, ROMO gets way too jittery in big games and his decision making decreases.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Superbowl title?

 

[Kangaroo]

IMO, ROMO gets way too jittery in big games and his decision making decreases.

That is because he gets hammered due to the oline being Jittery. I mean Brady a guy of 3 SB rings got Jittery (in his 4th one) when the Giants layed wood to him all day.

Romo set this team up to win in Seattle the slick ball was the issue it was not jitters :bang2::bang2:

The oline getting owned in the 2nd half of the Giants game and lets no even mention Crayton's or TO's drops in the 2nd half.

The Minnesota game was over as soon as Columbo strapped up his laces and was getting owned LL DAY then add in a bunch of bad coaching decision by the Marshmallow