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NeonNinja

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We didn't miss out on anything, Mendenhall is a one year wonder and has a poor attitude. Apparently he didn't try hard or care at all when he found out he wasn't going to be the full time starter, Felix has produced far more then Mendenhall at this point. It's anyone's guess though who will turn out to be better, but i'm with Jones. Nothing wrong with you thinking Mendenhall will be better Count, but until it's proven on the field you can't say we missed out on anything.
 

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You know I hated Jerry's explanation of Felix over Rashard during the presser but then I thought about it more. You're not going to say negatives about the player you pass up. Speed can kill in the NFL and I can't wait to see how Felix does for years to come.
 

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TheCount;2059859 said:
....The tiger looks nice and sexy, but the lion is the king of the jungle....

Lions actually steal a huge chunk of their food from hyenas and other predators. In a one on one fight, tigers shred lions' butts. Lions get the nice write up, but the truth is different.

Of course, there is still the arguement as to which is which in this football/feline identification.
 

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I can't wait to see Felix Jones on the field during a screen pass or in motion to the WR spot. That is going to make Defensive Coordinators crap their pants thats for sure. Good luck trying to get a LB or nickel defender try and stop that.

Yes we drafted what amounts to be a situational back but he is really a homerun threat that this offense, for all of its immense talent the offense really lacked a person who could really stretch the defense. T.O. is very talented and fast in his own right, but by no means a burner. Crayton is even slower, and Witten was never very fast. With Glenn injured/out, and Stanback still raw and unpolished, we needed Jones I think.

I wished at the time that Jerry would have picked Mendellhall, but in choosing Choice I think Felix Jones is going to pay dividends . Imagine putting Jones and MBIII on the field at the same time with Jones motioning or next to Jones in the backfield. I would like to see how long a Defensive Coordinator would like to try stacking the box to slow down Barber, and take a risk of Romo killing them on play action. Teams are going to really have to pick their poision in how they want to try and stop this offense, much moreso than last year. I can't wait to see what a smart coordinator like Jason Garrett is going to do with a versatile player like Jones in this offense.
 

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It's interesting to note that a Tiger would defeat a Lion in almost every battle between the two cats. A tiger is larger by almost 200lbs in some instances, and is a solo hunter. A lion is a pack hunter and relies on his compadres to defeat large prey.

Mendenhall might be better than Felix, but a Tiger is better than a Lion.
 

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mmohican29;2060653 said:
It's interesting to note that a Tiger would defeat a Lion in almost every battle between the two cats. A tiger is larger by almost 200lbs in some instances, and is a solo hunter. A lion is a pack hunter and relies on his compadres to defeat large prey.

Mendenhall might be better than Felix, but a Tiger is better than a Lion.

Thats a pretty offtopic and mute point. Does animal planet have a message board?
 

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BouncingCheese;2060658 said:
Thats a pretty offtopic and mute point. Does animal planet have a message board?

Relates directly to the OPs references. Calling them into question even.

And your response definitely was not a mute point....:)

I think I would probably have gone with Mendenhall, but there were at least some justifications for the Jones pick. We will know in three years probably.
 

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I'd just like to point out that in the clips posted in the original post, it's Felix who is running out of the I-formation.
 

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Everlastingxxx;2059906 said:
Felix is much more impressive to me because he is a Dallas Cowboy. So i can’t relate to the BooHoo-ing.

:rolleyes: ridiculous
 

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Yea Carolina thought Mendenhall was the 2ND BEST BACK as well as everybody else :rolleyes: What he is was a one year wonder, see how many of those are successful in the NFL...
 

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TheCount;2059859 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7OiYXlBEZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZNRusGexI

Notice he makes guys miss in a crowd.

Compare it to Felix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_8OLufobMc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4miK7GnuSAI

Who doesn't really do that, but instead cuts off blocks and beats guys to the corner.

A lot of Felix' highlights are of him running in open field, while Mendenhall's highlights are him in a crowd, breaking arm tackles, the hesitation moves, the cuts.

I just want to make it very clear that we will live to regret passing on this kid. I know Felix is a good fit for us, but you don't pass on a lion to take a tiger.

The tiger looks nice and sexy, but the lion is the king of the jungle.

I'll cheer on Felix, and I think he'll have a good career while he's here, but the "Mendenhall looked too much like Barber" excuse is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard.

I hope Felix proves me wrong, I really and truly do, but I can't help but feel we out smarted ourselves on this one.

So you want the lion instead of the tiger?

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but in case someone else hasn't posted this or something similar yet:

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wildlife-2507/Tiger-vs-Lion-wins.htm

Expert: David Stringer
Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Tiger vs Lion: Who wins?

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Hi David, You have probably been asked this a lot, but who would win a fight, a Lion or Tiger? lets take the mordern day African Lion and put it against either a Bengal or Siberian Tiger, who would win. Now, from what I have understood is that the Tiger is the bigger, stronger, more agile cat, but the Lion is the more aggressive, has the more fighting experience and has the mane which is said to protect it. Are these statistics true and who in your opinion would win?

Thankyou for your time,

Scott.



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Hi Scott,

I have had a lot of "who would win in a fight" questions, but surprisingly this is the first tiger vs. lion Q. I am highly opposed to any animals actually fighting unless outside of completely natural situations, but as I assume this is all hypothetical, here's my take...
Given the physical and behavioural attributes of both cats, it is indeed a difficult question as they are both built killing machines. As per your points above, it is debatable if the lion is more aggressive, but it generally does have more fighting experience. Male lions often must fight off other lions challenging for the pride, as well as other predatory animals on the African plains. Although lionesses do a large majority of the hunting, males are very good hunters too (young, individual lions manage to hunt on their own until they find a pride of their own).
Tigers are solitary animals and are more of a stalker than the lion (ie, they creep up and pounce on prey). So compared to a lion with strong forepaws, the tiger has very strong hindlegs for pouncing.
Overall, I would peg their strength as being approximately equal, so I will give the edge to tigers on agility. They are both highly successful cats, but the overall stamina and movement of the tiger will come out on top.
 

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I really don't see the big difference between these two players. Drop Mendenhall in the SEC, I'm not sure he could do what Felix did. They are different backs, but you're kidding yourself if you believe one is vastly more talented than the other.
 

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LOL, I see it HAS been mentioned. I guess the op should have picked a better metaphor.

Point is BOTH the lion and tiger are killing machines. If BOTH Felix and Rashard become great backs, who cares if one might be a touch better than the other. Let's hope the "Tiger" of Felix does good and let the Steelers worry about their own "Lion".
 

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TheCount;2059859 said:
The tiger looks nice and sexy, but the lion is the king of the jungle.

I understand your point. But, technically, a tiger beats a lion. Lions are pack creatures, not good at thriving alone, unlike tigers. Lions almost never attack prey alone, unlike tigers.
 

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arglebargle;2060603 said:
Lions actually steal a huge chunk of their food from hyenas and other predators. In a one on one fight, tigers shred lions' butts. Lions get the nice write up, but the truth is different.

Of course, there is still the arguement as to which is which in this football/feline identification.

mmohican29 said:
It's interesting to note that a Tiger would defeat a Lion in almost every battle between the two cats. A tiger is larger by almost 200lbs in some instances, and is a solo hunter. A lion is a pack hunter and relies on his compadres to defeat large prey.

Mendenhall might be better than Felix, but a Tiger is better than a Lion.

Opps. Looks like you and Mmohican beat me to it. :)
 

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adamknite;2060215 said:
I have to admit, whenever Mendenhall fell right into our laps, I was thinking.... "I can't believe he fell right into our laps like that." then when we passed him over, I couldn't believe it. I liked Felix, and I thought we were going to draft Felix (because he was going to be the best of the RB's that fell to us since I figured Mendenhall would be gone), I was just shocked that we valued what he brought more than we did Mendenhall. You're right count, we'll have to wait and see if we made the right move, hopefully Felix does great. Until then I'm just going to enjoy what we have, and hope he does great without worrying about what could have been.

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I was surprised too, but it did not surprise me one bit that we still took Jones. We are not going to be a pound it down your throat team. We are a spread themm out team and make big plays.

That is why we took Jones over Mendenhall to me.
 

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arglebargle;2060603 said:
Lions actually steal a huge chunk of their food from hyenas and other predators. In a one on one fight, tigers shred lions' butts. Lions get the nice write up, but the truth is different.

Of course, there is still the arguement as to which is which in this football/feline identification.

So the Lion punks other animals for their lunch money? That can't be good.

Dhragon;2060838 said:
LOL, I see it HAS been mentioned. I guess the op should have picked a better metaphor.

Point is BOTH the lion and tiger are killing machines. If BOTH Felix and Rashard become great backs, who cares if one might be a touch better than the other. Let's hope the "Tiger" of Felix does good and let the Steelers worry about their own "Lion".

That was kind of the point, hence the pictures. Neither one is exactly a pansy. (and no, I didn't want to use the word "pansy", let your imagination wander.)

tyke1doe;2060839 said:
I understand your point. But, technically, a tiger beats a lion. Lions are pack creatures, not good at thriving alone, unlike tigers. Lions almost never attack prey alone, unlike tigers.

You mean Lions hunt together? Like in a pride? Like in a team?

Believe it or not guys, I too have attended 5th grade biology classes. ;)
 
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