What will happen if T-New cant go? *Bunch of Merged Newman Threads*

[AsthmaField]

You sir, are a genius.

I wonder if our training staff knows about this.

You think they may not? I assumed he's been gellin' since he first hurt it. If they haven't been gellin'... then problem is solved!

Betcha eduncan hadn't thought of DrScholl's in all of his doom and gloom threads.

Battlestar Galactica, my ***!

 

[DallasEast]

Been there. Done that. (Or at least joked about it)

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1607889&postcount=26http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93535&highlight=bionic

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1609602&postcount=43

 

[BigDFan5]

Just wondering if I missed it because from what I have read Phillips says he will play week 1, Newman says he will play week 1, and from reading about his injury its not debilitating, and wont even hurt during the games, it will only hurt after the game when he is not moving anymore

 

[Rack]

Just wondering if I missed it because from what I have read Phillips says he will play week 1, Newman says he will play week 1, and from reading about his injury its not debilitating, and wont even hurt during the games, it will only hurt after the game when he is not moving anymore

I've had that injury before (actually I had the regular Plantar Faciitis, not the tear) and it's a PITA to play with. I played FB when I had it so it wasn't so bad (mostly running in straight lines). I can't imagine how a CB would be able to play with it.

 

[BigDFan5]

I've had that injury before (actually I had the regular Plantar Faciitis, not the tear) and it's a PITA to play with. I played FB when I had it so it wasn't so bad (mostly running in straight lines). I can't imagine how a CB would be able to play with it.

Just reading around on the net it said you wont lose strength or mobility, it will just hurt. Also said once you start moving around on it the pain will go away until an hour after you relax and quit moving

 

[Rack]

Just reading around on the net it said you wont lose strength or mobility, it will just hurt. Also said once you start moving around on it the pain will go away until an hour after you relax and quit moving

That's probably the case with a regular plantar faciitis, but remember, Newman has a tear, not plantar faciitis.

 

[AsthmaField]

Yeah, hasn't Ellis been listed day-to-day now for the whole preseason with no appreciable change in his situation (as far as participation in practices goes)?

Yeah, pretty much. But they've also been letting everyone know for a while now that it's a wait and see thing... meaning it could be a little while.

I was speaking more specifically about how all teams just do the "probable" or "questionable" or "doubtful" thing before each game. It really doesn't do a whole lot to help us fans out, when it comes to really predicting or understanding the extent of their inuries.

 

[BigDFan5]

That's probably the case with a regular plantar faciitis, but remember, Newman has a tear, not plantar faciitis.

No I was reading about a partial tear of the plantar fascia, I will try and find the link

 

[juck]

This injury can be really calmed with a cortisone shot,but the shot is very very very painful.From a runner i chatted with who had a microtear in the same spot,he said he could run and it felt better when he ran after a bit then when he stopped the pain set in worse.they will numb him in that particular spot.he will play.i would bet a lot on this.my buddy also said that it healed in like 2 months,but after the shot of cortisone it really healed quicker and felt better.

 

[Doomsday101]

This injury can be really calmed with a cortisone shot,but the shot is very very very painful.From a runner i chatted with who had a microtear in the same spot,he said he could run and it felt better when he ran after a bit then when he stopped the pain set in worse.they will numb him in that particular spot.he will play.i would bet a lot on this.my buddy also said that it healed in like 2 months,but after the shot of cortisone it really healed quicker and felt better.

It is because the cortisone shot hurts like hell you forget about the other pain. :laugh1:

 

[dooomsday]

It is because the cortisone shot hurts like hell you forget about the other pain. :laugh1:

Cortisone does wear off after a while and I believe you can olny take so many shots to the same place.

Of course thats in the real world. In football, they may just keep shooting him up.

I have visions of North Dallas 40 when the shot wears off and the rb shreds his hammy....

 

[Doomsday101]

Cortisone does wear off after a while and I believe you can olny take so many shots to the same place.

Of course thats in the real world. In football, they may just keep shooting him up.

I have visions of North Dallas 40 when the shot wears off and the rb shreds his hammy....

3 within a years time. I know Aikman was having it done for his back but as you said there is a limit even in todays football.

 

[firehawk350]

On top of that, doesn't it numb the area??? That will most likely seriously affect his mobility. Try this to see what I mean. Sit cross-legged on a hard tile floor until both feet go completely numb. Then get up and try to walk. You need feeling in your feet because a lot of your balance comes from what part of the foot has pressure on it.

And the way runners can deal with this injury is completely different from a football player. If what I've heard say in this thread is true, it only hurts after you stop moving, then Newman is going to be in a world of hurt in between plays and defensive drives. A runner wouldn't have the same world of hurt because they just stop moving when they are done. By that point, there's nothing left to do but agonize and you don't have to worry about playing the other 55 snaps.

 

[5Stars]

On top of that, doesn't it numb the area??? That will most likely seriously affect his mobility. Try this to see what I mean. Sit cross-legged on a hard tile floor until both feet go completely numb. Then get up and try to walk. You need feeling in your feet because a lot of your balance comes from what part of the foot has pressure on it.

And the way runners can deal with this injury is completely different from a football player. If what I've heard say in this thread is true, it only hurts after you stop moving, then Newman is going to be in a world of hurt in between plays and defensive drives. A runner wouldn't have the same world of hurt because they just stop moving when they are done. By that point, there's nothing left to do but agonize and you don't have to worry about playing the other 55 snaps.

They don't numb the whole foot, firehawk...just a little spot about the size of a quarter or 50 cent piece where the injury exists...then tape it real good.

But, I for one am not going to commit suicide if he can't play for the first 4 or 5 games. If the TEAM cannot win without him, then they are not a good team to begin with...and I say that because what if he was lost for the whole season? There would be posters around here slapping their wives, beating their dogs, etc.!!

I've had a bad throwing shoulder during baseball where my right shoulder had a small tear and the doctor put in some cortizone and it healed up after a few weeks then I was good to go...(i know, this is not a fooball player, but the docs know what to do)...

What you are discribing about sitting on the floor and your foot or leg going numb is just a cause of lack of blood flow, whereas treating it with a small area, the blood is still flowing there...

 

[dallasfaniac]

If what I've heard say in this thread is true, it only hurts after you stop moving, then Newman is going to be in a world of hurt in between plays and defensive drives.

I assume it doesn't hurt immediately afterwards. Kind of like if you haven't lifted weights in a long time and you overdo it a bit. You don't actually start hurting until a day later. So in Newman's case, he would hurt Monday/Tuesday after we win the game. He'd have just short of a week to rest up and then start over.

 

[watertown]

i hope your kidding. if tnew doesn't go eli will throw 6 tds and we will lose 49-21

I honestly hope you are kidding

 

[5Stars]

I honestly hope you are kidding

Let's see?

6 x 6 = 36 + 6(extra points) = 42...

If he's not kidding, then he's very, uh...what, schmart? Wait, my mother is calling, I'll put her on the speaker phone...

:laugh1:

 

[firehawk350]

They don't numb the whole foot, firehawk...just a little spot about the size of a quarter or 50 cent piece where the injury exists...then tape it real good.

But, I for one am not going to commit suicide if he can't play for the first 4 or 5 games. If the TEAM cannot win without him, then they are not a good team to begin with...and I say that because what if he was lost for the whole season? There would be posters around here slapping their wives, beating their dogs, etc.!!

I've had a bad throwing shoulder during baseball where my right shoulder had a small tear and the doctor put in some cortizone and it healed up after a few weeks then I was good to go...(i know, this is not a fooball player, but the docs know what to do)...

What you are discribing about sitting on the floor and your foot or leg going numb is just a cause of lack of blood flow, whereas treating it with a small area, the blood is still flowing there...

Okay, I didn't know that cortizone could be so localized. Only 3 shots a year though, so you decide which 3 games are most important and shoot him up then???

That's true, but the reason you look stupid is because you have no feeling in your feet. I've had to do that once in basic training, and it sucks. You get feeling back (about 3-4 minutes) and you can walk fine. The foot gets blood back in about 3 seconds, so I know it wasn't just from a lack of blood.

 

[dooomsday]

My buddy had it done and his experience was once the pain was gone he was great. If its just pain, and no restrictive damage, he should be fine. The pain is the issue now.

However, there are no guarantees. Everyone responds differently to shots.

 

[firehawk350]

I assume it doesn't hurt immediately afterwards. Kind of like if you haven't lifted weights in a long time and you overdo it a bit. You don't actually start hurting until a day later. So in Newman's case, he would hurt Monday/Tuesday after we win the game. He'd have just short of a week to rest up and then start over.

i wouldn't assume that. I tore a muscle in my bicep when I was lifting, and I can lift like normal and everything, but the second I stop, and I mean the second, it flares up and is extremely painful. There is nothing gradual about it's onset.

Slight different tissue and everything, so I don't know how it works as far as the pain onset, but my point is, don't assume is a gradual thing.