What would you do about Roy? Trade him?

[Hostile]

It is fascinating the the RW apologists have nothing to offer in the way of evidence but instead rely solely on discrediting the opinions of the whiners.Come on apologists, give us somehting in the way of real evidence that backs up your claims that he is not a huge liability in pass defense.Anything......

Okay. I will certainly try.

What is the secondary assignment of the 2 OLBs in a 3-4 or Nickel scheme?

If you answered coverage underneath you are correct.



Who is currently providing our coverage underneath, and also watching the deep middle?

If you said Roy, you are correct again.



Why is he being asked to divide his assignments?

If you answered because our 3 primary OLB's are all converted DEs you are on a roll.



Roy plays very aggressive. Have any of you noticed that he doesn't have many big hits this year? Not because he's lost it, but because teams no longer throw it to the zone underneath him. he takes that away by sheer intimidation. So then, where would this leave him vulnerable?

Right, over the top. You guys are blaming Roy for the offenses taking what we give them.



I simply do not understand it. The guy makes big plays that change games. When you combine takeaways, sacks, and tackles that the guy provides this team and compare it against any other SS in the NFL he is miles ahead.

That hardly equates to a total waste.

 

[dbair1967]

I am absolutely convinced we have one of the dumbest fan bases in the NFL



David

 

[theogt]

I am absolutely convinced we have one of the dumbest fan bases in the NFL



David

You'd think so. But if you go to other fan sites, it can get worse. Much worse.

 

[AdamJT13]

It is fascinating the the RW apologists have nothing to offer in the way of evidence but instead rely solely on discrediting the opinions of the whiners.Come on apologists, give us somehting in the way of real evidence that backs up your claims that he is not a huge liability in pass defense.Anything......

If he was a huge liability, why hadn't he allowed any touchdowns or big catches since Week 1?

And as I've been saying since Sunday, if Roy is to blame on Moss' TD catch, who covers the tight end on a curl in front of Roy? If Roy is to blame on Kyle Brady's TD catch, what kind of coverage has the safety lined up on the far right cover the tight end lined up on the far left, while the linebackers right in front of that tight end do nothing? Either Roy is not at fault, or the coverage schemes are the worst ever designed. Which is it?

 

[Vtwin]

..........................From the Movers and Shakers post yesterday.

S Patrick Watkins: He plays deep in the nickel, when Roy Williams plays down at nickel linebacker, and the Patriots went after him. With Ken Hamlin often giving over-the-top help on Randy Moss, the Cowboys asked a lot of Watkins in the middle of the field and credit New England for seeing that. Watkins also was flagged for interference when the Cowboys were still up 28-24 to put the Patriots on the Dallas 1, and put them in position to take a lead they wouldn't relinquish.

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This from a guy who knows the Pats well and watches tape. He didn't mention Roy as a problem.

That's a general statement about the Pat's game plan and their execution of it.

 

[Stash]

Don't mistake my criticisms for thinking Williams is a 'total waste'. I never said that, nor do I think that.

My opinion is that the guy certainly has his share of mistakes and shortcomings as well.

And I think that he made two big ones Sunday which cost the team 14 points.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

It is fascinating the the RW apologists have nothing to offer in the way of evidence but instead rely solely on discrediting the opinions of the whiners.Come on apologists, give us somehting in the way of real evidence that backs up your claims that he is not a huge liability in pass defense.Anything......

Im starting to think alot of my fellow Cowboy fans know nothing about football. Oh well.

 

[TVMan]

I am absolutely convinced we have one of the dumbest fan bases in the NFL



David

But are some REALLY fans or are they just posers here to stir the pot?:clubbed:

 

[Cochese]

Roy plays very aggressive. Have any of you noticed that he doesn't have many big hits this year? Not because he's lost it, but because teams no longer throw it to the zone underneath him. he takes that away by sheer intimidation. So then, where would this leave him vulnerable?

He hasnt had a big hit in a quite some time, and I doubt it has anything to do with what you say. Even when he gets a chance..Desmond Clark over the middle against Chicago..he threw his shoulder at him like a sissy and bounced off.

 

[Stash]

If he was a huge liability, why hadn't he allowed any touchdowns or big catches since Week 1?

And as I've been saying since Sunday, if Roy is to blame on Moss' TD catch, who covers the tight end on a curl in front of Roy? If Roy is to blame on Kyle Brady's TD catch, what kind of coverage has the safety lined up on the far right cover the tight end lined up on the far left, while the linebackers right in front of that tight end do nothing? Either Roy is not at fault, or the coverage schemes are the worst ever designed. Which is it?

Adam, why would the scheme call for Roy to let Brady run free while doubling a man that Ayodele was already covering?

 

[TVMan]

That's a general statement about the Pat's game plan and their execution of it.

Nice backtrack.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

If you are an offense coordinator and you are playing the Dallas Cowboys. Who on Defense would you attack? And Why?

 

[Vtwin]

If he was a huge liability, why hadn't he allowed any touchdowns or big catches since Week 1?

And as I've been saying since Sunday, if Roy is to blame on Moss' TD catch, who covers the tight end on a curl in front of Roy? If Roy is to blame on Kyle Brady's TD catch, what kind of coverage has the safety lined up on the far right cover the tight end lined up on the far left, while the linebackers right in front of that tight end do nothing? Either Roy is not at fault, or the coverage schemes are the worst ever designed. Which is it?

Because we haven't played a good passing attack since week one.The Rams aren't the same passing team as they have been. Offeensive line problems, QB injuries took the pressure off our secondary.Chicago's passing attack? LOLMiami passing attack? LOLNewman had the tight end.Can't comment on the other play you mention but I will be able to tomorrow.

 

[Kilyin]

But what we do know is that Moss was standing in front of Hamlin when he caught the ball. If Hamlin wasn't supposed to at least attempt a play on that ball, then his assignment must have been to simply run to the goal post and stand there.

lawl.

 

[TVMan]

If you are an offense coordinator and you were playing the Dallas Cowboys. Who on Defense would you attack? And Why?

Ellis.

 

[superpunk]

If you are an offense coordinator and you are playing the Dallas Cowboys. Who on Defense would you attack?

Nate Jones, and Patrick Watkins.

And Why?

They suck.

 

[AdamJT13]

And I think that he made two big ones Sunday which cost the team 14 points.

Here's a direct challenge to you --

1) On Moss' TD catch, explain who covers the tight end on a curl at the goal line in front of Roy.

2) Explain the coverage on Kyle Brady's TD catch and why the safety lined up to the far outside on the right is "supposed to" cover the tight end lined up on the far left instead of the tight end right in front of him. Also, explain the coverage responsibilities of Burnett and James, the two linebackers lined up right across from Kyle Brady.

 

[I LOVE ME SOME ME!]

If you are an offense coordinator and you are playing the Dallas Cowboys. Who on Defense would you attack? And Why?

Bradie James and Akin Ayodele. The guys who people just ignore when they do nothing and just focus on our Pro Bowler. I would give up my left testicle for Bradie James and Akin Ayodele to do their job as well as Roy does his. As Roy would say, "point blank".

 

[AdamJT13]

LNewman had the tight end.

So Newman is supposed to leave Moss and run 10 yards out of his zone to cover the tight end running a short curl in Roy's zone?

 

[Hostile]

Adam, why would the scheme call for Roy to let Brady run free while doubling a man that Ayodele was already covering?

But, he's not covering Brady. He's assigned to cover a Zone. If New England or any other team floods multiple Zones (exactly what they do) then it leaves someone vulnerable. If Roy plays that Zone deep and tight on Kyle Brady it leaves the underneath zone where the first down marker is completely unmanned.

There is no such thing as a perfect coverage scheme. Sometimes you just need to tip your hat to the offens einstead of blaming the defense.