What's Wrong With Ware?

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jimmy40;1063602 said:
If you have a problem with Dallas' scheme then you should be blaming Parcells, obviously if Zimmer sucked as bad as you say Parcells would get rid of him.


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I didnt see the game but why so much hate on WAre?

He's a great plyer regardless. And he'll show up again hopefully next week.
 

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DallasDomination;1063822 said:
I didnt see the game but why so much hate on WAre?

He's a great plyer regardless. And he'll show up again hopefully next week.


The Fans miss the days of Charles Haley, They miss our Defense getting sacks and dominating the game -vs- Get pressure and bend but don't break
mentality of todays Cowboys
 

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I hate fantasy football too.... puts a veil over what is really going on in the NFL and which players are the best etc. I know what a great player looks like on the field. I don't need fantasy stats to separate the TJ Houshmanzedeh's from the Terry Glenn's. That's idiotic. It's more fun to debate on the different skill sets the players have vs straight up statistics.

I've said it before and I'll say it again De Marcus Ware is a great football player regardless if he gets 0 sacks or 6 in a game. Another way to influence a game is by presence and using skills to "disrupt". Ware is one of the most disruptive defensive players in the game today.
 

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Just food for thought, were are the Cowboys

NFL Sacks

Rank Player Team Sacks Tackles
1 Bart Scott BAL 5 18
2 Trent Cole PHI 5 12
3 Robert Geathers CIN 4 9
4 Justin Smith CIN 4 12
5 Aaron Kampman GB 4 13
6 Julius Peppers CAR 4 18
7 Jevon Kearse PHI 3.5 4
8 Brian Young NO 3.5 12
9 Ryan Denney BUF 3 16
10 Chris Kelsay BUF 3 9
11 Keith Traylor MIA 3 14
12 Kerry Rhodes NYJ 3 25
13 Terrell Suggs BAL 3 14
14 Adalius Thomas BAL 3 17
15 Shawne Merriman SD 3 7
16 Dewayne White TB 3 5
17 Tommie Harris CHI 3 7
18 Will Smith NO 3 10
19 Robert Mathis IND 2.5 14
20 Richard Seymour NE 2.5 16
21 Trevor Pryce BAL 2.5 7
22 Chad Williams SF 2.5 9
23 Raheem Brock IND 2 8
24 Kevin Carter MIA 2 7
25 Victor Hobson NYJ 2 11
26 John Henderson JAC 2 6
27 Bobby McCray JAC 2 2
28 Larry Foote PIT 2 18
29 Clark Haggans PIT 2 16
30 Joey Porter PIT 2 5
 

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Bigdog24;1064002 said:
Just food for thought, were are the Cowboys

NFL Sacks

Rank Player Team Sacks Tackles
1 Bart Scott BAL 5 18
2 Trent Cole PHI 5 12
3 Robert Geathers CIN 4 9
4 Justin Smith CIN 4 12
5 Aaron Kampman GB 4 13
6 Julius Peppers CAR 4 18
7 Jevon Kearse PHI 3.5 4
8 Brian Young NO 3.5 12
9 Ryan Denney BUF 3 16
10 Chris Kelsay BUF 3 9
11 Keith Traylor MIA 3 14
12 Kerry Rhodes NYJ 3 25
13 Terrell Suggs BAL 3 14
14 Adalius Thomas BAL 3 17
15 Shawne Merriman SD 3 7
16 Dewayne White TB 3 5
17 Tommie Harris CHI 3 7
18 Will Smith NO 3 10
19 Robert Mathis IND 2.5 14
20 Richard Seymour NE 2.5 16
21 Trevor Pryce BAL 2.5 7
22 Chad Williams SF 2.5 9
23 Raheem Brock IND 2 8
24 Kevin Carter MIA 2 7
25 Victor Hobson NYJ 2 11
26 John Henderson JAC 2 6
27 Bobby McCray JAC 2 2
28 Larry Foote PIT 2 18
29 Clark Haggans PIT 2 16
30 Joey Porter PIT 2 5

1 less game played than most of those guys.
 

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wayne_motley;1064107 said:
1 less game played than most of those guys.

Jay Ratliff was tied with the guys listed at Nos. 23-30 with two sacks, but it listed only 30.

Those stats were from before today's games, as well. As of right now, only six teams have more sacks per game than we do. We just spread ours around.
 

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AdamJT13;1064187 said:
As of right now, only six teams have more sacks per game than we do. We just spread ours around.

I thought we got no pressure? ;)

and the other players on D can thank Ware for being able to join in the fun
 

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AdamJT13;1064187 said:
Jay Ratliff was tied with the guys listed at Nos. 23-30 with two sacks, but it listed only 30.

Those stats were from before today's games, as well. As of right now, only six teams have more sacks per game than we do. We just spread ours around.

I was just shocked to see that the DE's that play in a 4-3 have more sack numbers than OLB's that play in the 3-4. HOLY HELL!

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TEK2000;1064269 said:
I was just shocked to see that the DE's that play in a 4-3 have more sack numbers than OLB's that play in the 3-4. HOLY HELL!

:bang2:

DE's rush the passer almost exclusively on passing downs.

OLB in a 3-4 rush the passer and cover.

Seems simple enough as to why...
 

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Vintage;1064297 said:
DE's rush the passer almost exclusively on passing downs.

OLB in a 3-4 rush the passer and cover.

Seems simple enough as to why...

Guess I should have put a big sign on my post that said "I'M BEING SARCASTIC!"

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AdamJT13;1064187 said:
Jay Ratliff was tied with the guys listed at Nos. 23-30 with two sacks, but it listed only 30.

Those stats were from before today's games, as well. As of right now, only six teams have more sacks per game than we do. We just spread ours around.
That's pretty interesting. Out of curiosity which teams? I think I could guess 3 of them given big games they had.
 

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Hostile;1064376 said:
That's pretty interesting. Out of curiosity which teams? I think I could guess 3 of them given big games they had.

The 3 teams that have played Oakland perhaps? :laugh1:
 

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TEK2000;1064384 said:
The 3 teams that have played Oakland perhaps? :laugh1:
LOL

Good shot. Yeah San Diego is one with 9 sacks in that game.
 

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dbair1967;1063522 said:
really? apparently you never bother to pay attention to stuff then, because I've posted facts about Zimmer for several years now...like how we're always at the bottom of the league in sacks, qb pressures, negative plays and turnovers forced...we have also had a penchent for blowing 4th qtr leads since he's been here

even players like Kavika Pittman and Ebenzer Ekuban (guys who couldnt find the QB with a rand Mcnally here) had success after leaving our scheme...the facts is we've played 3 games and in basically 2 1/2 of the 3 games we've had no pass rush to speak of whatsoever...there has been a HUGE upgrade in defensive front 7 talent here over the years and still Zimmer cant concoct games plans to consistently put pressure on opposing QB's

David

I totally agree w/ you. I am not impressed w/ this defense whatsoever. No pressure. We even made a rookie's first game look pretty good. P Manning will really hurt us. I have never seen a less imaginative defense in my life. How about turning the heat up on a rookies first game? We keep this up and we will never be an elite team.
 

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Nothing is wrong with him...He will be just fine...all this talk about the guy in Diego...Dont worry...Things will open up
 

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dmq;1064400 said:
I totally agree w/ you. I am not impressed w/ this defense whatsoever. No pressure. We even made a rookie's first game look pretty good. P Manning will really hurt us. I have never seen a less imaginative defense in my life. How about turning the heat up on a rookies first game? We keep this up and we will never be an elite team.

You consider a 40 something QB rating pretty good?

2 picks with 1 being returned for a TD.

1 fumble returned for 53 yards.

Yeah, Vince really had our number today.

First objective of D is to stop the other team from scoring.

Second is to take the ball away from them and score.

Sacks and minus plays are gravy.

Mission accomplished.
 
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