What's Wrong With Ware?

[AdamJT13]

That's pretty interesting. Out of curiosity which teams? I think I could guess 3 of them given big games they had.

We're at 3.0 sacks per game. The only teams ahead of us are Philadelphia (5.33), Baltimore (4.25), Chicago (3.75), San Diego (3.67), Pittsburgh (3.33) and New Orleans (3.25).

And by the way, we're third in the fewest times being sacked per game (1.0), behind Chicago (0.75) and San Diego (0.33). Not bad for a terrible offensive line and an immobile statue at quarterback.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Wait a minute .. wasn't Ware supposed to be this Lawrence Taylor type of player?

I'm so surprised that we're not seeing a Lawrence Taylor clone out there. I find it very amusing that fans make these player assesment that state things like players are going to be the next best thing since frozen pudding BEFORE they play in the NFL.

"Ware is the next LT. He's got the hybrid, athletic body".

"Henson is the next Stauback - pedigree".



On the opposite end of the spectrum you have players that we've drafted like Terrence Newman, Roy Williams, Jason Witten, Patrick Watkins and, sometimes, Julius Jones ... that come in and make a name for themselves off the bat.

The rest of the players go through a developmental learning phase and getting up to the speed of the NFL is something that takes time. See Brady James and Kevin Burnett for examples here.

You gotta love the impact players, but right now I think that Ware is doing his job well enough to be making an impact. Whether you call that being an impact player is a matter of inerpretation and definition, but I think he's getting enough pressure from his side and I think he fits well in to our defense.

The defensive unit, as a whole, is playing very well and I think that's largely in part of great coaching.

So, I'll sum it up by saying that I also find it humorous that this poster is saying "open your eyes to the real problem". I assume that he's insinuating that Zimmer is doing a bad job.

Give me a break. Sometimes it's just better to remain silent. If Zimmer were doing a bad job at coaching the defense, he would have been gone long ago.

It doesn't take a genius to make the observation that ZIMMER'S defense was key to winning today's game.

In fact (no pun intended),the defense has been playing at the level of 3-0. It's the offense that lost the game for us against Jacksonville.

OK ... let me get this straight ... Ware IS Lawrence Taylor ... and Mike Zimmer is a horrible (one of the best, IMO) defensive coordinators in the league...

No wonder I've slowed down my activity tremendously on these internet message boards...

 

[jman]

I heard so much of how improved he is but he looks no different. He is strictly a one dimensional speed rusher with no counter moves. Today he was dominated by some guy named Roos and was never even near getting a pressure. He has 1 sack through 3 games- that projects to 5 for the season. I must admit I was hoping for much more out of him.

I guess he's a bust...what else could be the reason. More Cowboy draft failure.

 

[rlgiv]

I heard so much of how improved he is but he looks no different. He is strictly a one dimensional speed rusher with no counter moves. Today he was dominated by some guy named Roos and was never even near getting a pressure. He has 1 sack through 3 games- that projects to 5 for the season. I must admit I was hoping for much more out of him.

I think you have lost your mind. I saw him making tackles in the run game. I saw him batting a pass back into the endzone . He was dropping into pass coverage and hanging with WR's. Getting pressure on the QB. There is more to playing well than sacks and Ware is looking good this season.

 

[superpunk]

I want to complain about something.

Where do I sign up?

I'm thinking about whining about Tyson Thompson's woeful 3.6 ypc. This is really damning of our offensive line. In addition, you have to consider the excess pressure Bledsoe is putting on our Oline, causing no running lanes to open. PLUS, we should have Hudson Houck. AND Steve Hoffman, because he could have mind-bent that goal post to allow Vanderjagt's sorry *** to make that FG.

Discuss.

 

[JPM]

I want to complain about something.

Where do I sign up?

I'm thinking about whining about Tyson Thompson's woeful 3.6 ypc. This is really damning of our offensive line. In addition, you have to consider the excess pressure Bledsoe is putting on our Oline, causing no running lanes to open. PLUS, we should have Hudson Houck. AND Steve Hoffman, because he could have mind-bent that goal post to allow Vanderjagt's sorry *** to make that FG.

Discuss.

Umm, you must start a new topic, this is to discuss Ware's pitiful numbers.
Oh, and you have to re-state your topic with a new thread once a week.

 

[superpunk]

Umm, you must start a new topic, this is to discuss Ware pitiful numbers. Oh and you have to re-state your topic with a new thread once a week.

I'm not that into being obsessive.

Are there any other options?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

if anyone says they will be happy with a 5 sack season from ware then they are lying.

probably not if we give up 20 pts a game. but if we give up less than 14 per game then I will be happy if he gets 3 sacks.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think Dallas knew exactly what they were doing. No way did we want to chase Vince Young around. Dallas contained him and forced him to play from the pocket. Outside pass rushers had no intent on coming hard on the inside and allow Young to the outside.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Ware played an excellent game. If you watched closely, you'd see that the entire Dallas pash rush was more concerned about maintaining their lanes than they were about getting to the QB.

They let Young throw the football because Dallas realized that at this stage of his career he's more dangerous breaking contain and creating that he is beating a team with his arm.

If you noticed late in the game when the score made Young have to throw rather than run, Dallas' pressure picked up substantially and they picked up a few sacks.

It's about 11 players doing their job, not one player looking for stats and highlight reel plays.

it makes me feel good to have a few posters who understand football and are not enamoured with fanatasy football stats.

 

[TNCowboy]

"Ware is the next LT. He's got the hybrid, athletic body".

It's probably for the best that you're not posting much.

It was Bill Parcells that first made the LT comparison.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

really? apparently you never bother to pay attention to stuff then, because I've posted facts about Zimmer for several years now...like how we're always at the bottom of the league in sacks, qb pressures, negative plays and turnovers forced...we have also had a penchent for blowing 4th qtr leads since he's been here

though I may agree with some of your assessment, but if you are looking back at the campo era then you have a weak argument. BPs first year here the defense was #1 over all and more important than any other stat #2 scoring defense. we had no talent at theat time.

I don't think ZImmer is the greatest DC but I also don't think he is as bad as you are trying to make him to be. part of blowing leads also has to do with offensive ineptness and going 3 and out on a regular basis and averaging 16 pts a game.

even players like Kavika Pittman and Ebenzer Ekuban (guys who couldnt find the QB with a rand Mcnally here) had success after leaving our scheme...the facts is we've played 3 games and in basically 2 1/2 of the 3 games we've had no pass rush to speak of whatsoever...there has been a HUGE upgrade in defensive front 7 talent here over the years and still Zimmer cant concoct games plans to consistently put pressure on opposing QB's

David

are you freaking serious? what did Ekuban and pittman do to deserve your accolades? oh...ekuban had a 6 sack season in cleveland. the same team that ranked 32 in the league in run defense and was 28th defensively. so you care more about individual performance than the team performance? is that it?

is this the same ekuban and the gang that got traded to Denver for bag of peanuts and a RB?

pittman....I am not even going to respond to that!!! unless he makes the HOF or probowl or 10th alternate for probowl....

the first game we were average in pass rush...the second game we pressured brtunnel into the performance of his lifetime.....or did you think that the washington offense was unstoppable...


in this game it was by design. we won by freaking 31 pts. what else do you want? the players did what the coaches asked and the coaches cared about keeping a very mobile young QB in the pocket and forcing him to read the defense and throw. perfect game plan. or did you prefer to give up 31 pts but get 8 sacks?

 

[adbutcher]

You remember a reporter ask the tuna how much he thinks Young will play? Parcells told him he had an idea and he would put it in envelope. Dollar to donuts I betcha he knew that Young will start. It was evident with our game plan was to keep Young contained, I expect we do the same to McNevermind but with a little more pressure.

 

[Hostile]

We're at 3.0 sacks per game. The only teams ahead of us are Philadelphia (5.33), Baltimore (4.25), Chicago (3.75), San Diego (3.67), Pittsburgh (3.33) and New Orleans (3.25).

And by the way, we're third in the fewest times being sacked per game (1.0), behind Chicago (0.75) and San Diego (0.33). Not bad for a terrible offensive line and an immobile statue at quarterback.

I was right on 3 of them as I said. 3 sacks per game would come out to 48 on the year. I'd take that. Philly isn't going to keep that pace up. Neither will B-more.

The OL numbers are encouraging.

Thanks.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

What's wrong with Ware?

My "inside sources" say he has been seen outside of the county health clinic.

Don't know what that means but just saying.

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[BigDFan5]

Anyone know who Stauback is?

 

[Hostile]

You remember a reporter ask the tuna how much he thinks Young will play? Parcells told him he had an idea and he would put it in envelope. Dollar to donuts I betcha he knew that Young will start. It was evident with our game plan was to keep Young contained, I expect we do the same to McNevermind but with a little more pressure.

Quite possible you are right. Young is a little more likely to run than McNabb. The key to beating them is going to be to take away the underneath stuff and make him beat us deep.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone know who Stauback is?

Yeah great QB who could run if need be or kill you from the pocket. Pick your own poison.

 

[boysfanindc]

really? apparently you never bother to pay attention to stuff then, because I've posted facts about Zimmer for several years now...like how we're always at the bottom of the league in sacks, qb pressures, negative plays and turnovers forced...we have also had a penchent for blowing 4th qtr leads since he's been here

even players like Kavika Pittman and Ebenzer Ekuban (guys who couldnt find the QB with a rand Mcnally here) had success after leaving our scheme...the facts is we've played 3 games and in basically 2 1/2 of the 3 games we've had no pass rush to speak of whatsoever...there has been a HUGE upgrade in defensive front 7 talent here over the years and still Zimmer cant concoct games plans to consistently put pressure on opposing QB's

David

You have got to hate those young top 5 defenses.

 

[adbutcher]

Quite possible you are right. Young is a little more likely to run than McNabb. The key to beating them is going to be to take away the underneath stuff and make him beat us deep.

I suspect we will see a little more pressure on D. On offense I believe we will try to work the screen game, draws, and a bunch of 3 step drops.