What's your comfort level with Tyron Smith?

[jrumann59]

It's literally the same injury. Previous staff always called it a back injury. New staff referred to it as a neck issue.

I think Garrett was scared to tell him to get surgery.

 

[conner01]

Love Tyron but they have to go into the season thinking he will miss games and plan for it.

That’s the great part about having knight get the reps last year

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Yeah, he's played with the issue for about 3 years and now finally it got to the point he had surgery on it.

Well, good, I'll go 70% then depending on how the recovery is going.

 

[conner01]

Smith is 29
Hard to believe but for a OT he’s very young
Can he play 16? Who knows, but 14 from him is better than using a high pick on OT
And throwing a token 3rd round player out there assuming he’d be better than knight is speaks of optimism over logic

 

[charron]

We need a capable backup like Brandon McKnight who can step in and play 6 games or more. But i'll start tyron at his salary and not worry about an early draft replacement.

 

[JayFord]

2

 

[buybuydandavis]

But I am not ready to spend a premium pick on it.

That's where I am. We have so many needs, I can't justify spending a premium pick unless Sewell drops in our lap, or some similar surplus value on a pick drops to us in later rounds.

Let Knight and Steele develop as our backups at T.

I'd be more inclined to bring in another G with a premium pick. Right now, we've got McGovern as our backup interior oline. He's got 2 years left. Williams has one. Time to bring in more interior oline.

For that matter, we could also bring in a C to compete with Biadasz, though I'd want McGovern to get a chance there too.

 

[Point-of-the-Star]

A quick layman's anatomy lesson with my speculations:

Look at the spine as a self supporting column of bones (vertebrae) and soft tissue (muscle, ligaments and the discs). Visually a stack of teacups (vertebrae) and saucers (discs) on top of each other each inked to the other to maintain stability.

His problem being called a back vs neck issue is understandable although more correctly could have been called a spinal column issue. The spine is broken down into cervical, the top seven vertebrae proceeding downward from the skull. This is where I understand Tyron had his issue. Next 12 vertebrae are the thoracic, Then the next 5 are the lumbar. There is at the bottom the sacrum (S1). All these are numbered i.e. C3 or T12 or L4. Down the middle of the vertebrae is an opening called the spinal canal in which the spinal cord runs with nerves branching off at each level (through bony openings) to either send the muscles messages or transmit sensation.

The sports problem that Tyron seemed to be having is compression of one or more of the nerve roots leaving the spinal cord going to the arms and shoulder(s). These would be at the cervical level(s). These nerves are compressed either naturally by nerve pathways being too small (stenosis) or a ruptured or bulging disc.


This can require removing part or all the disc (the disc is a shock absorbing pad between the vertebrae), Disc replacement can be done. Or opening up the bony pathway . If the stack of vertebrae is considered unstable or the spacing between vertebrae unstable then a fusion or the placement of hardware is warranted. Hardware may be plates, rods, or wires. Fusions involve placing bone from one vertebrae to another which then is overgrown by the patient's own bone to maintain spacing by a solid bridging effect.

So picturing this we don't know the extent of Tyron's surgery or what techniques were involved. Some simple surgeries can be performed as an outpatient procedure while others (a very small percentage) may be so complex that they can require post surgical care in the ICU setting.

I think we'll have to wait to see what happens with Tyron's surgery and his playing future. My guess is he had a less complicated surgery or he wouldn't consider even playing again.

 

[Kingofholland]

I got 75% confidence he'll play in atleast 75 % of our games. That's enough for me to ride with him this season. I do think if there's a tackle there in the 2nd and 3rd round that's one of higher graded players I would turn in their card. At some point they may be needed and we know a game or 2 during the regular season can impact playoffs or home field. Then if that player develops maybe they replace Smith or Collins in a couple of years.

 

[75boyz]

I may be way off here but, if you have a 40mil dollar QB the blind side is a main concern i would think. Dak don't need to break anything else.

Totally agree.
It's only a matter of time that once Tyron goes down that the extreme effect it will have on the offense and in particular, the Quarterback's performance.

Many of the tackle scouts here musta sure not seen the performances in the trenches against division foes Washington and the Giants. (in the the second game)

I do not think Steele/Knight/ Erving(if he returns) possess the starting caliber ability for any true length of time. Spot starter for 2, maybe 3 games? Maybe I could sign off on that.

But Philbin ain't gonna be no miracle worker with this backup group of tackles and I'm a little surprised at the reactions.

 

[jrumann59]

Totally agree.
It's only a matter of time that once Tyron goes down that the extreme effect it will have on the offense and in particular, the Quarterback's performance.

Many of the tackle scouts here musta sure not seen the performances in the trenches against division foes Washington and the Giants. (in the the second game)

I do not think Steele/Knight/ Erving(if he returns) possess the starting caliber ability for any true length of time. Spot starter for 2, maybe 3 games? Maybe I could sign off on that.

But Philbin ain't gonna be no miracle worker with this backup group of tackles and I'm a little surprised at the reactions.

I think Steele and Knight can be starters on the right side. I actually think a season in S&C at the NFL level will help him immensely. Also all the starts he accumulated allows the coaches to work on the holes in his game. Its one thing to tell a kid you are doing this wrong and this is what happens, its another hey remember when I said if you do this, this will happen here is the film from week 4

 

[Kareemovweet]

A def 50.. Dude can't stay on the field anymore.. What good is he on the bench 1/2 the season.. Start looking now for a great LT or we will be in the same boat again next year. IF someone is willing to trade for him I'd take the bait...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Love the guy! Hate he has more behind him than IN front of him.

Is he one that you kind of go like this?

1. 25%

2. 50%

3. 75%

4. 100%

5. Need to spend a draft pick, he's done.

Hes done in my opinion. Let someone else roll the dice on him. Trade him if you can or cut him. Put Martin out at LT and move forward.

 

[stiletto]

He was great and the stupid front office wasted a lot of good years of his but once you start having Neck issues in the NFL, it's over. Will be a miracle if he comes back and doesn't get hurt almost immediately. I am sure Smails & Spaulding are optimistic he'll be back 100% ready to anchor the OL for 10 years...LOL... they really ARE that clueless to think something so dumb.

 

[Corso]

A quick layman's anatomy lesson with my speculations:

Look at the spine as a self supporting column of bones (vertebrae) and soft tissue (muscle, ligaments and the discs). Visually a stack of teacups (vertebrae) and saucers (discs) on top of each other each inked to the other to maintain stability.

His problem being called a back vs neck issue is understandable although more correctly could have been called a spinal column issue. The spine is broken down into cervical, the top seven vertebrae proceeding downward from the skull. This is where I understand Tyron had his issue. Next 12 vertebrae are the thoracic, Then the next 5 are the lumbar. There is at the bottom the sacrum (S1). All these are numbered i.e. C3 or T12 or L4. Down the middle of the vertebrae is an opening called the spinal canal in which the spinal cord runs with nerves branching off at each level (through bony openings) to either send the muscles messages or transmit sensation.

The sports problem that Tyron seemed to be having is compression of one or more of the nerve roots leaving the spinal cord going to the arms and shoulder(s). These would be at the cervical level(s). These nerves are compressed either naturally by nerve pathways being too small (stenosis) or a ruptured or bulging disc.


This can require removing part or all the disc (the disc is a shock absorbing pad between the vertebrae), Disc replacement can be done. Or opening up the bony pathway . If the stack of vertebrae is considered unstable or the spacing between vertebrae unstable then a fusion or the placement of hardware is warranted. Hardware may be plates, rods, or wires. Fusions involve placing bone from one vertebrae to another which then is overgrown by the patient's own bone to maintain spacing by a solid bridging effect.

So picturing this we don't know the extent of Tyron's surgery or what techniques were involved. Some simple surgeries can be performed as an outpatient procedure while others (a very small percentage) may be so complex that they can require post surgical care in the ICU setting.

I think we'll have to wait to see what happens with Tyron's surgery and his playing future. My guess is he had a less complicated surgery or he wouldn't consider even playing again.

I worry about his post-career future.

 

[DuncanIso]

Smith is 29
Hard to believe but for a OT he’s very young
Can he play 16? Who knows, but 14 from him is better than using a high pick on OT
And throwing a token 3rd round player out there assuming he’d be better than knight is speaks of optimism over logic

I think 3 more seasons is possible.

 

[DuncanIso]

I think our RT is a bigger problem....

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

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Love him when healthy, but I have ZERO confidence in his ability to stay healthy. Depending on him is like depending on Sean Lee- you might get lucky, but don't bet on it.

Also, while he is still exceptionally powerful when he locks up with a defender, he has lost a little quickness, and now gets beat more frequently by speed.

 

[Corso]

Love the guy! Hate he has more behind him than IN front of him.

Is he one that you kind of go like this?

1. 25%

2. 50%

3. 75%

4. 100%

5. Need to spend a draft pick, he's done.

Well I wouldn't let him date my wife.

Shoot, I wouldn't let anyone date my wife!

 

[blueblood70]

3