What's your opinion of Jason Campbell?

[Sonny#9]

just 1 question

how long are you going to commemorate the Commanders beating Dallas w/ your sig?

JMO but it's kind of lame

I think it should get a week, until we play Philly.

 

[Sonny#9]

its already been brought up, but i'll reiterate- the cards are #5 in O. the skins have played the #'s 2-5 offenses actually. they have not played an O currently ranked below 5th in the league. the skins D isnt shutting anyone out, but they are keeping the leaugues best O's to about 10 pts a game less than they average. that is impressive.

From the Washington Post today:

"Although they are 14th overall and 23rd in pass defense, the Commanders have faced the league's fourth-, third-, fifth- and second-ranked offenses, respectively, and held each to its lowest scoring and yardage totals."

How much more spin can one Cowboy Fan put on an issue? Let's find out!

cleveland is #32 in O. this is 2008, not 2007.

the skins have played the most difficule schedule in the NFL this year. they are 3-1, having just beaten the leagues consensus #1 team at their place. their only loss is to the current consensus #1 team, the super bowl champion giants at NY.

Shhhh....don't bring fact into this. It'll only confuse him.

to my recollection, the skins were down in the 4th to
two teams- the giants, and NO. they were not trailing the cards or the boys.

as for campbell, he is currently the #1 rated Qb in the east. #2 in the NFC, #4 in the NFL. he has yet to throw a pick. not bad for a guy getting ready to start his fifth game in yet another new system.

i'd say he definitely does not suck.

He's been very sharp three straight weeks -- this week will be another big, big test. Philly's D is similar to the Giants in the amount of pressure it brings. Although the game I was watching looked like the Cowboys got some pressure, but only 2 sacks. Mostly because Campbell was able to dodge rushers, not unlike blocking pads being thrown at him.

But he definitely sucks. I mean that's clear.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think it should get a week, until we play Philly.

Agreed. I'm more interested in rather he'll even be man enough to show his face here should we beat you in your house with a signature that shows the result of that loss.

That is what will be even more impressive to me is when a fan can do that.

 

[khiladi]

Campbell has only thrown 2 or more INT/game in 16% of his games. Tom Brady, widely considered as the best QB in the league, has done so in 18% of his games. Is Campbell INT prone? No, he is not. And you can't prove it. Man, I love facts. They blow up the most ridiculous arguments.

BWAHAHAHA... You give stats about 2 or more INTs. Why not 1 or more INTs? You can manipulate statistics all you want... The fact that you even make a ocmparison with Tom Brady, shows how ridiculous you people are...

I live in DC and even the DC media talks about how Jason Campbell needs to protect the ball more in crucial situations... Because it is a fault of his... That is why all of you talk about how he hasn't committed a TO in the last 3 games, not making any mistakes.

 

[khiladi]

That's funny considering the Cowboys average record the last 10 years in december and january is something like 2-3.

And yet, I've already said that genius. A loss in September means nothing to us, because our issues start in December. The Commanders have started off 3-1 countless times in the last ten years, failing to make the play-offs, despite a strong start. You guys can't establish any consistency the whole year.

 

[khiladi]

I just wanted to quote this bit of drivel for fun. Especially the part about Trent Green. Trent Green has had a hell of a career...

I can just feel the bitterness seething off this post. It's great.

A hell of a career? Maybe as a journeyman... This surely is a staple of a Commanders fan, blowing up average QBs to make their team wins look impressive. He has had only two seasons where he had more wins than losses. Just like they do with the Cardinals... Hey, we beat the mightily impressive Arizona Cardinals, holding them to a season low in terms of offense. And how about them Saints...

You know what is amusing about the whole thing. This guy you claim as having a heck-of-a-career, the Commanders let him go. So they let, what s to you, good QBs, go... The one year he had his best statistics with the Commanders,

 

[Sonny#9]

And yet, I've already said that genius. A loss in September means nothing to us, because our issues start in December. The Commanders have started off 3-1 countless times in the last ten years, failing to make the play-offs, despite a strong start. You guys can't establish any consistency the whole year.

Well, I guess playing well up until December and then going in the tank 10 straight years DOES count as being consistent, so you got me there.

 

[khiladi]

Well, I guess playing well up until December and then going in the tank 10 straight years DOES count as being consistent, so you got me there.

How many times have we beat the Commanders in those 10 staright years, even in December?

 

[Sonny#9]

A hell of a career? Maybe as a journeyman... This surely is a staple of a Commanders fan, blowing up average QBs to make their team wins look impressive. He has had only two seasons where he had more wins than losses. Just like they do with the Cardinals... Hey, we beat the mightily impressive Arizona Cardinals, holding them to a season low in terms of offense. And how about them Saints...

Trent Green a journeyman? You really don't know squat do you?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeTr00.htm

Wow, some journeyman...he must have been the most productive journeyman ever!

You know what is amusing about the whole thing. This guy you claim as having a heck-of-a-career, the Commanders let him go. So they let, what s to you, good QBs, go... The one year he had his best statistics with the Commanders,

Um, he left as free agent, and signed with St. Louis. Where he's from. I am sure that had nothing to do with it.

Anything else I can assist with in making you look more foolish?

 

[Sonny#9]

How many times have we beat the Commanders in those 10 staright years, even in December?

Yep. You're probably right. How many times have you beaten the Commanders lately?

 

[khiladi]

Trent Green a journeyman? You really don't know squat do you?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeTr00.htm

Wow, some journeyman...he must have been the most productive journeyman ever!

How many seasons out of his career has he posted a winning record? STop quoting me links and tell me how many winning seasons has he had? How is he great?

Um, he left as free agent, and signed with St. Louis. Where he's from. I am sure that had nothing to do with it.

Anything else I can assist with in making you look more foolish?

Franchise tag? If he was so great, why did they let him get away?

Like I said, to blow up the Commanders, you gotta blow up average players...

 

[khiladi]

Yep. You're probably right. How many times have you beaten the Commanders lately?

Congratulations.. You have a nice little run here... Until you do it consistently, get back to me... You beat us in December, when we fall apart. And you beat us this month, like we beat you last year... Whoopity-doo...

How does it prove Campbell is any good? He has a nice little run going, but he has always been known as being wildly inconsistent. His whole career with the Commanders has been tainted with turn-overs and crcuial mistakes. So he has 3 games, and your ready to pronounce him great and make analogies with Brady, Aikman, Elway and his likes... Pleease...

Like I said, the Cowboys are the standard by which you measure your team. Face it, that is why you are here...

 

[khiladi]

Consistent staple of OUR team in the last 10 years?

When did you win your last post season game?

Exactly.

It does no good to make it, then leave as quick as you got there.

Oh, and you have lost your last 6 post season games, and only made it one time more than we did in the last decade. Your veil is thin buddy, very thin.

2-3 will always be better than 0-6

And speaking of closing it out in December.....do you just make things up in your head and present them as fact? In the last 10 years, Dallas in 16-26 in December. Washington is 23-20. In 1998 we won 3 in Dec., we did 5-0 in 2005, and 4-1 last year. In that same stretch, Dallas has not won more than 2 games in December. In 2002, you threw a goose egg 0-4.

This is why I love when people try to argue bogus points, because stats never lie.

Learn to read... I said for us December is the key... I wasn't comparing the Commanders in December with the Cowboys in December.. When talking about the Commanders, I stated that within the last ten years, they HAVE STARTED the season 3-1 and failed to make the play-offs. They were 6-2 and failed to make the play-offs...

 

[Extreme]

Learn to read... I said for us December is the key... I wasn't comparing the Commanders in December with the Cowboys in December.. When talking about the Commanders, I stated that within the last ten years, they HAVE STARTED the season 3-1 and failed to make the play-offs plenty of times..

If December is key for Dallas, why doesn't someone tell them? The 16-26 December record the last decade says they don't take it too seriously.

 

[khiladi]

If December is key for Dallas, why doesn't someone tell them? The 16-26 December record the last decade says they don't take it too seriously.

You do know in the last ten years, our overall record has been a losing record, let alone December. Should I quote the Commanders records during these last ten years as well? Wow... The Commanders have one less play-off appearance than Dallas does in the last ten years, and we are talking about the reigns of dave Campo and Chad Hutchinson and Shante Carver... And that is a stat your 'proud of'...

Like I said, keep measuring yourselves by the Cowboys...

 

[AmishCowboy]

They are all on the JC Bandwagon now, however, I remember them being happy when Todd Collins took over last season and got them into the playoffs and some of the fanbase we clamoring for Colt Brennan after he looked good in preseason.

 

[Sonny#9]

Congratulations.. You have a nice little run here... Until you do it consistently, get back to me... You beat us in December, when we fall apart. And you beat us this month, like we beat you last year... Whoopity-doo...

It's actually 2, b/c clearly you don't know. I love fans like you. You know nothing, but run your mouths like you do. 2-5 in the last 7. That's right. Downplay the Skins beating you. It's cool. I know for a fact that it turns your stomach.

How does it prove Campbell is any good? He has a nice little run going, but he has always been known as being wildly inconsistent. His whole career with the Commanders has been tainted with turn-overs and crcuial mistakes. So he has 3 games, and your ready to pronounce him great and make analogies with Brady, Aikman, Elway and his likes... Pleease...

Do me a favor -- find where I compared Campbell to any of those players. Take your time. I know you read slowly.

4 games, 0 turnovers. None. But then agian -- there's no way he could have improved. Or Zorn is actually a good coach. Or anything like that. I mean he sucks. Clearly. He's the suckiest suck that ever did suck. He will revert to sucking any moment now....any moment...

Or MAYBE he is a talented, mobile QB who is has turned the corner? Nah, no way. Only Cowboys players do that!

Like I said, the Cowboys are the standard by which you measure your team. Face it, that is why you are here...

I'm actually here to talk football. I can't get to ES from work. And I like talking about this rivalry. It's the greatest in sports. I like discussing/arguing/talking smack with those who know football -- and toying those who don't, like yourself.

 

[Sonny#9]

They are all on the JC Bandwagon now, however, I remember them being happy when Todd Collins took over last season and got them into the playoffs and some of the fanbase we clamoring for Colt Brennan after he looked good in preseason.

I'd be all for someone pointing out either of those in my case. Anyone who wanted CB this year is crazy. I've been saying TC is overrated when they re-signed him.

 

[Extreme]

Should I quote the Commanders records during these last ten years as well?

Go ahead pal, I already did.....23-20, a lot better than the Dallas record in that span. Do you not comprehend that, or does your homerness blind you to reality? Th argument was nothing to do with playoff appearances, it was because you talked about the Commanders not getting it done in December, while saying the Cowboys do. Their records are exactly the opposite of what you claimed was being done late in the season. Besides, you have been to the playoffs 1 time more than us in the last decade, and we still have 2 wins to your zero.

Argue all you want little buddy, on this matter you are dead wrong. Accept it and get over it.

Also, you talk about losing in that decade span....we had 3 winning seasons, you had 5. And our post season and december records are still better. Why is it so hard for you to admit you were wrong? It's not admitting anything other than the stats prove your argument has no basis of fact in it.

You don't like facts and logic do you? Are you a Barack Obama supporter by any chance?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think it should get a week, until we play Philly.

I agree