What's your opinion of Jason Campbell?

[Bob Sacamano]

Teams and players perform differently from week-to-week, and they also have different gameplans. To assume that each team performs the exact same way every sunday shows you know very little about football.

The Commanders exposed the Cardinals secondary, and considering the Jets also run a WCO, it is no surprise they took advantage of it.

Also, being down in the 4th quarter doesn't make a team bad. Your lack of objectivity in this discussion is glaring. If your team would've pulled out the win you would be arguing the other side, claiming the win proved how resilient the Cowboys are.

To counter your other claims, Campbell has been rushed and he's made good decisions so far this season. He broke two tackles, scrambled out of the pocket, and threw a touchdown to Randle El that was called back due to Casey Rabach. The play may not have counted, but the penalty had nothing to do with the way Campbell handled the rush and made a play.

can't you say the same about Dallas?

 

[burmafrd]

as crappy as our D played, and as dumb as the playcalling was, we still were very close to winning that game.
The skins have no depth. As the season goes along that will tell. As well as their lack of good WRs.

 

[Naes]

as crappy as our D played, and as dumb as the playcalling was, we still were very close to winning that game.
The skins have no depth. As the season goes along that will tell. As well as their lack of good WRs.

Common misconception, but the Skins actually have good depth at most positions. You're semi-right about the WR's, it'll take time to see if Kelly or Thomas actually pans out.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

can't you say the same about Dallas?

We don't change our defensive schemes it seems like.

 

[Sonny#9]

Actually, it chafes your chicken that I'm not giving the Commanders any credit, because you know they just aren't that good. How many times does it need to be told to you? The Redsskins were down twice in the fourth quarter against horrible defensive teams that totally choked the games away. They aren't impressive. The Cardinals just gave up 56 against the Jets, who have not scored above 30 this whole year. Even then, Jason Campbell threw whopping below 200 yard performance against the Arizona Cardinals. New Orleans defense is garbage as well. They have scored 111 points and allowed 100 points. They are pretenders.

Arizona isn't that great offensively either. They put up 31 against Miami and 23 against SF. They only put up 35, because the Jets were up by over 30 going into the second half. Warner threw fifty times that game for +400 yards.

Arizona not that good offensively? They're ranked #5 in the league right now. Dallas #2. NO #3. NYG #4. And they had below par days against the Skins D. But that's probably a fluke. All of them. No way is the Skins D that good...

Uh... Dallas has beaten Green Bay and the Eagles and they totally shut-down Cleveland. The Commanders haven't shut-down anybody, other than the Cowboys, and even then, they didn't shut them down. The Cowboys refused to run the ball making themselves one dimensional. They played like crap and still almost had the onside kick and most likely would have went down the field and scored.

Green Bay? You mean the team that couldn't beat the Bucs despite Griese throwing the ball 63 times? Of Philly that just lost to the Bears?

The Commanders haven't shut down anyone, true, but then again, it's difficult to shut down the top offenses in the league. But then again, much less offenses had their way with your secondary didn't they?

Oh but congrats on totally shutting down the Juggernaut that is the Cleveland Browns. Currently ranked 32nd in offense. Good work.

I love sour grapes.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Arizona not that good offensively? They're ranked #5 in the league right now. Dallas #2. NO #3. NYG #4. And they had below par days against the Skins D. But that's probably a fluke. All of them. No way is the Skins D that good...



Green Bay? You mean the team that couldn't beat the Bucs despite Griese throwing the ball 63 times? Of Philly that just lost to the Bears?

The Commanders haven't shut down anyone, true, but then again, it's difficult to shut down the top offenses in the league. But then again, much less offenses had their way with your secondary didn't they?

Oh but congrats on totally shutting down the Juggernaut that is the Cleveland Browns. Currently ranked 32nd in offense. Good work.

I love sour grapes.

Come back at the end of the season then talk to us.....

 

[Sonny#9]

Come back at the end of the season then talk to us.....

Yeah 'cause that's when the Cowboys really shine...

I'll be here. Don't you worry!

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yeah 'cause that's when the Cowboys really shine...

I'll be here. Don't you worry!

Yea I'm just saying teams will come back down to earth.

 

[Sonny#9]

Yea I'm just saying teams will come back down to earth.

Yeah we'll see what happens when the Skins play a good defense.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yeah we'll see what happens when the Skins play a good defense.

I'm not saying that I just want to see how the season progress

 

[Sonny#9]

I'm not saying that I just want to see how the season progress

We shall see -- early indications are positive tho...

 

[khiladi]

Teams and players perform differently from week-to-week, and they also have different gameplans. To assume that each team performs the exact same way every sunday shows you know very little about football.

The Commanders exposed the Cardinals secondary, and considering the Jets also run a WCO, it is no surprise they took advantage of it.

The Commanders didn't expose anybody and as Daryl Johnston pointed out during that game, the Arizona Cardinals, even prior to their game against Washington, has been known to get mixed up in the secondary. The fact is, the Jets scored 56 on this team. Their defense isn't good.

Also, being down in the 4th quarter doesn't make a team bad. Your lack of objectivity in this discussion is glaring. If your team would've pulled out the win you would be arguing the other side, claiming the win proved how resilient the Cowboys are.

I never said it makes a team bad, but it surely doesn't make them good, especially when they need break-downs in coverage to score TDs. You can't keep going into the 4th quarter down and expect to win, especially against good teams. The Commanders played a defense that has a pass rush, aka the Giants, and Jason Campbell looked like garbage.

And you have no idea whether or not I would say Dallas is resilient or not. I have been complaining about their soft defense for awhile, especially this year, after the Philly game. I don't think they are resilient at all and their scheming is what gave the game to the Commanders. It was the same approach they applied last year which allowed Jason Campbell his best yardage output last season. Wade obviously is too stubborn in his philosophy to change.

To counter your other claims, Campbell has been rushed and he's made good decisions so far this season. He broke two tackles, scrambled out of the pocket, and threw a touchdown to Randle El that was called back due to Casey Rabach. The play may not have counted, but the penalty had nothing to do with the way Campbell handled the rush and made a play.

And that has more to do with Dallas. They have consistently allowed QBs to get outside the pocket and not make tackles. Look your not going to find anybody that said the Commanders didn't outplay the Cowboys. But that had more to do with coaching than anything else. Dallas defense gave you guys the short passing game, which s exactly how the Commanders run their offense. Dallas ran the ball 8 times, and the Commanders just kept dropping men in coverage.

It was a poorly coached game and any joe blow team against that Dallas game-plan would have won.

 

[khiladi]

]Arizona not that good offensively? They're ranked #5 in the league right now. Dallas #2. NO #3. NYG #4. And they had below par days against the Skins D. But that's probably a fluke. All of them. No way is the Skins D that good...

Who has Arizona played? Their average against the Skins was pretty much the same it has been all year. Please... They couldn't score against the Jets, until the Jets were up by over 30 and became lackadaisical. They have played soft teams throughout this season...

Green Bay? You mean the team that couldn't beat the Bucs despite Griese throwing the ball 63 times? Of Philly that just lost to the Bears?

Green Bay, Philly and Chicago are better than Arizona and the Saints, who have no defense...

The Commanders haven't shut down anyone, true, but then again, it's difficult to shut down the top offenses in the league. But then again, much less offenses had their way with your secondary didn't they?

But I thought our defense sucked according to you?

I love sour grapes.

WHy is it your so jealous of the Cowboys? Jason Campbell sucks and you know it...

 

[khiladi]

We shall see -- early indications are positive tho...

You do know that they have started off 3-1 countless times within the last year, only to fail miserably...

 

[Sonny#9]

Who has Arizona played? Their average against the Skins was pretty much the same it has been all year. Please... They couldn't score against the Jets, until the Jets were up by over 30 and became lackadaisical. They have played soft teams throughout this season...

Hahahaha...but I thought Boldin and Fitz were going to shred us? What happened? Your posts just keep getting funnier and funnier...

But I thought our defense sucked according to you?

I didn't say they sucked...I just said the only team they shut down was the worst offense in the league.

WHy is it your so jealous of the Cowboys? Jason Campbell sucks and you know it...

More sour grapes...if Jason Campbell sucks, and he just picked apart your "All-Pro" Secondary...what does that say?

Psst -- saying Campbell "sucks" shows just how much of a blind, ignorant homer you really are. Keep 'em coming.

 

[Rampage]

he's played good so far this season including Sunday. the biggest thing is he hasn't turned the ball over yet.

 

[Sonny#9]

You do know that they have started off 3-1 countless times within the last year, only to fail miserably...

...and so have the Cowboys. That doesn't have anything to do with anything this year.

 

[Extreme]

yes, i agree with that although it's hard to give campbell a ton of credit regarding yesterday's game in particular. every time he went down the field, the receivers were uncovered. hard to miss those passes.. again, props to the system

This was where I quit reading in this thread. You try so hard to keep hammering the point home, but it doesn't matter. The argument could be made that EVERY great player was a product of the system.

Emmitt smith had one of the best O-lines in NFL history when he was in Dallas, raking up yards. When the O-line got depleted, his stats suffered tremendously, he was traded to Arizona, and he did nothing measurable the rest of his career.

That being said, If you say Campbell is a product of the system, and not a good QB, can you at least admit the same for Emmitt Smith?

**sarcasm alert**He wasn't a good back. He was a product of a good line. His stats back it up 100%.

Now do you see how absurd youre argument is? Campbell is not a product of the system. Zorn isn't what you would call "known worldwide for his offensive expertise." That argument doesn't hold up.

Have you thought for a minute that Campbell's earlier play being lackluster was the result of shoddy coaching? Think about it. No QB does good in a run first offense.

 

[L-O-Jete]

I liked him at Auburn but think you paid too high a price to acquire him. He had a great game yesterday. I still think he is the 4th best QB in the division though. He's in very good company.

He looked like a franchise QB, what would you be willing to pay for one?

 

[Skinsmaniac]

Well thanks for all that analysis. . Now I know how everyone feels about Jason Campbell.