When do we end our Homefield curse?

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It IS a pretty oddball happenstance how our win/loss results seem to favor our road games. However, we'll be facing some toughies this year on the road like Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Minnesota. Those, alone, might very well serve to sway some of those weird road wins to losses.
Could it be that we tend to relax way too much at home? Maybe its that our fans make noise when we're on offense instead of the opponent. :rolleyes:
 
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The stadium was plenty loud week one. I was there. The fans aren't playing the game. Players are. Let's stop with blaming the crowd.

Dallas' home crowd will never be confused with Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Seattle, Baltimore, Denver. They are a front runner crowd. It's been common knowledge for years. I did say score more TDS but I guess you missed it.
 

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Fly in? Put your money where your mouth is. the seats are all available on the secondary market. Maybe cowboys fans should buy them for a change? When people stop paying 3x the value on the secondary market I imagine fans will stop selling them. the stadium has plenty of excitement, that is why its sold out and other fans flock to come here.

Calling the hometown fans lame is off the mark.
I question the loyalty of any fan, regardless of team or sport, who owns a ticket and proceeds to sell it. Certainly, some ticket holders are confronted with personal financial uncertainties that force them to part with their tickets but it seems to me that most people sell their tickets for simple economic gain. If certain people cared where tickets they already owned ended up, they wouldn't solicit secondary markets and sell their tickets directly to fellow fans of their team instead. Is that naïve? Yep, in every sense of the world, but it does identify the true culprits of perceived fan disloyalty.
 

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Crowds are always 50/50 especially in big games. Doesn't matter if it's home or away... Too many Cowboys season ticket holders sell their tickets... But a lot of Cowboys fans in other cities buy tickets

This happens all around the NFL. Fans can't make it to every game. Opposing fans as you said, want to go to see their team when they are in their area.
Throw in on top of that, fans also want to recoup some of their cost, especially for the seating license they paid for. With the high cost of those as well as some of the seats, you can't blame them.
So if they can sell half of their games at a profit, and some of them double face value. Everyone on here that constantly complain about this would do the exact same thing.

My seats were $340 each. I was out of town a lot so had to sell them. And I even had games where I had to take a loss or give them away as I could not get back in town.
So if I could double my money on some, heck yes I am going to sell them. My goal was if I broke even each year, I was happy.
I sold my tickets and PSL's this year for various reasons. But I will still defend those who want to sell theirs. And for those that don't like it, tough, go buy tickets and go to a game [not meant for those who do go].
 

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I question the loyalty of any fan, regardless of team or sport, who owns a ticket and proceeds to sell it. Certainly, some ticket holders are confronted with personal financial uncertainties that force them to part with their tickets but it seems to me that most people sell their tickets for simple economic gain. If certain people cared where tickets they already owned ended up, they wouldn't solicit secondary markets and sell their tickets directly to fellow fans of their team instead. Is that naïve? Yep, in every sense of the world, but it does identify the true culprits of perceived fan disloyalty.

This is so off based.
 

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I question the loyalty of any fan, regardless of team or sport, who owns a ticket and proceeds to sell it. Certainly, some ticket holders are confronted with personal financial uncertainties that force them to part with their tickets but it seems to me that most people sell their tickets for simple economic gain. If certain people cared where tickets they already owned ended up, they wouldn't solicit secondary markets and sell their tickets directly to fellow fans of their team instead. Is that naïve? Yep, in every sense of the world, but it does identify the true culprits of perceived fan disloyalty.

hey I am with you. I use to complain about this 24/7 but I know it doesn't matter anymore. Just look at this board, its loaded with guys who openly sell their tickets for profit and then complain about the stadium and the crowd.

I will never understand why people sell for a profit instead of going and using the ticket to experience the game. To me the experiences of the games are what is so great. But again, just read this board these people brag about how much they sell their tickets for so there is no reasoning with them.
 

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Oh my goodness we had two guys drop TD passes and a guy that didn't run out of bounds otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I think it takes care of itself this week
 

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I question the loyalty of any fan, regardless of team or sport, who owns a ticket and proceeds to sell it. Certainly, some ticket holders are confronted with personal financial uncertainties that force them to part with their tickets but it seems to me that most people sell their tickets for simple economic gain. If certain people cared where tickets they already owned ended up, they wouldn't solicit secondary markets and sell their tickets directly to fellow fans of their team instead. Is that naïve? Yep, in every sense of the world, but it does identify the true culprits of perceived fan disloyalty.

I own season tickets and sell most of them. Here is an example for you. The Giants game tickets sold for $700 per pair and my cost was $200 for the pair. So I made $500 per pair and I have 2 pairs. So I made $1k on that game alone. Does it make me any less of a fan to watch the game in my living room? Besides the money, the fans are the worst I have seen in the whole NFL. Quiet when the other team has the ball, loud when our offense has the ball. Just clueless fans. And oh btw, I only sell my tickets to fellow Cowboys fans. Jerry makes the games more about entertainment and less about football. I have traveled to several other staidums that are more simple and the fans focus on impacting the game more.
 

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For those who don't like it, go buy tickets and go to a game...change the culture....be a part of the solution and not part of the whine crowd.
 

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This is so off based.
I have been wrong before and will be again but please expound upon how off based I am. Some people own tickets. Other people want tickets. Supply. Demand. Is economics truly a nonfactor in this reality?
 

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Dallas' home crowd will never be confused with Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Seattle, Baltimore, Denver. They are a front runner crowd. It's been common knowledge for years. I did say score more TDS but I guess you missed it.

so is pittsburgh. When they struggle that place is half full, the packers when rodgers was out a few years ago barely sold out a home playoff game.

most towns are front running.

Whats so great about baltimore's crowd? I fail to see what they do that is so great.

the seattle crowd is like the buffalo crowd. Loud, rowdy and into every game. Those people have my respect. Been a part of that buffalo crowd many times and it is deafening.
 

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so is pittsburgh. When they struggle that place is half full, the packers when rodgers was out a few years ago barely sold out a home playoff game.

most towns are front running.

Whats so great about baltimore's crowd? I fail to see what they do that is so great.

the seattle crowd is like the buffalo crowd. Loud, rowdy and into every game. Those people have my respect. Been a part of that buffalo crowd many times and it is deafening.


I just flat out didn't have a good time when I went. I feel like I have a better NFL experience at home than I do at the stadium.

With all of the pre-game circus stuff it just feels like the stadium is built for the drive by fan who cares more about walking around and taking selfies. It's not an environment for hardcore football fans.

While it is much nicer than Texas stadium I still prefer Texas stadium.. You just felt something when you were in there. Ghosts of Cowboys past were in there. You felt it.

Between the parking fees, the 2 hour drive I have, the cost of the tickets, and the brand of football we play, I think i'd just rather stay at home.

If we host a NFC Championship game i'll go but that's about the only thing that could get me back out there.
 

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I own season tickets and sell most of them. Here is an example for you. The Giants game tickets sold for $700 per pair and my cost was $200 for the pair. So I made $500 per pair and I have 2 pairs. So I made $1k on that game alone. Does it make me any less of a fan to watch the game in my living room? Besides the money, the fans are the worst I have seen in the whole NFL. Quiet when the other team has the ball, loud when our offense has the ball. Just clueless fans. And oh btw, I only sell my tickets to fellow Cowboys fans. Jerry makes the games more about entertainment and less about football. I have traveled to several other staidums that are more simple and the fans focus on impacting the game more.
I did say "If certain people cared where tickets they already owned ended up, they wouldn't solicit secondary markets and sell their tickets directly to fellow fans of their team instead." My concern focuses on other teams fans' butts sitting in seats previously owned by fans of the team they profess to love. Your claim states that you substituted your Cowboy butt for other Cowboy butts. Yes, I did also say "I question the loyalty of any fan, regardless of team or sport, who owns a ticket and proceeds to sell it" but intended that comment for sellers who allow their tickets to fall into the hands of other teams' fans. I should have worded it differently. My bad.
 

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so is pittsburgh. When they struggle that place is half full, the packers when rodgers was out a few years ago barely sold out a home playoff game.

most towns are front running.

Whats so great about baltimore's crowd? I fail to see what they do that is so great.

the seattle crowd is like the buffalo crowd. Loud, rowdy and into every game. Those people have my respect. Been a part of that buffalo crowd many times and it is deafening.

I've been to several Ravens games. They are loud and loyal. Not many opposing team fans there. My wife is a Ravens fan. We went to Ray Lewis last game there.

It's been mentioned on here already but the Dallas home fans are ignorant. They don't understand their role in the game. The home team's offense should have silence. The opposition should have to battle crowd noise.

I've been to a Steelers game. I'll just disagree with you there. Green Bay also.
 

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I just flat out didn't have a good time when I went. I feel like I have a better NFL experience at home than I do at the stadium.

With all of the pre-game circus stuff it just feels like the stadium is built for the drive by fan who cares more about walking around and taking selfies. It's not an environment for hardcore football fans.

While it is much nicer than Texas stadium I still prefer Texas stadium.. You just felt something when you were in there. Ghosts of Cowboys past were in there. You felt it.

Between the parking fees, the 2 hour drive I have, the cost of the tickets, and the brand of football we play, I think i'd just rather stay at home.

If we host a NFC Championship game i'll go but that's about the only thing that could get me back out there.

thats fine. If you don't like it you shouldn't go and spend the money.
 

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I've been to several Ravens games. They are loud and loyal. Not many opposing team fans there. My wife is a Ravens fan. We went to Ray Lewis last game there.

It's been mentioned on here already but the Dallas home fans are ignorant. They don't understand their role in the game. The home team's offense should have silence. The opposition should have to battle crowd noise.

I've been to a Steelers game. I'll just disagree with you there. Green Bay also.

How many cowboys games have you been to?
 

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For those who don't like it, go buy tickets and go to a game...change the culture....be a part of the solution and not part of the whine crowd.
<toots own horn> I purchase a single game (or two) tickets each year. My wife (stupid Broncos fan!) and I be there Sunday night for the Bears game.
 

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I have been wrong before and will be again but please expound upon how off based I am. Some people own tickets. Other people want tickets. Supply. Demand. Is economics truly a nonfactor in this reality?

See my other post in this thread. Yes at times economics are not involved. I was out of town way too often. So had to sell my tickets. And these websites don't ask who you are a fan of.
As I also said, I sold at a reduced price or gave them away. TO Dallas fans also. But if someone does want to pay double the face value, heck yes I am going to take that.

So you have a vehicle, and someone needs that vehicle but cant afford it, so are you going to give that to them because you know them. Or are you going to take double blue book value for it, to a person you don't know. It is easier for people to be too critical when they have no stake in the value of what is at hand.
 

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For those who don't like it, go buy tickets and go to a game...change the culture....be a part of the solution and not part of the whine crowd.

How bout you change the culture buddy. I'm more than 1000 miles away. I guess I could teach you when to cheer and when to stay quiet. I remember at Texas stadium, I could hear Aikman in the huddle. Now we go silent count at home because you guys are football ignorant.
 
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