Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

[Runwildboys]

I already told you I'm not buying the different ear garbage it's all in black and white I don't remember them in all the record books in the Hall of Fame when they're showing stats talking about when it used to be 12 games or 14 games or 16 games or now 17 games there's no* by it you played when you played but you're compared to everyone from the beginning of time. So it is clear that Tony Romo was not a person that threw a lot of interceptions if you look at how all his counterparts did that were supposed to be the greatest the Cowboys ever had people are discounting how great Tony Romo really was.. Don't say he couldn't have held up you don't know this I mean you want a time machine go back in time a healthy Romo see if you can hold up no I'm not buying any of that trash it is what it is the stats are clear people here are trying to say that Tony Romo was a choker and he threw too many interceptions and that Tom Landry wouldn't have put up with it yeah he had a player who was worse Danny white was not as good as Tony Romo even though he's compared to him sometimes no Tony Romo is more Brett farve than he is Danny white.. That's what I'm trying to convey to people don't discount what they've done now they're saying Prescott turns the ball over too much it's not true he had an off year but there are far worse years by players who played for us and for other teams that had just as big a names again Troy Aikman had 141 interceptions that's a lot I'm sorry he played on a Hall of Fame team with some of the best players and coaches ever and all he can muster is 165 that's downs and 141 interceptions think about the context of who he played with and he still threw a lot of interceptions if you're comparing them to Prescott and Romo

While I agree that Troy wasn't quite what people make him out to be, my memory of those days tells me that he played against a lot of better defenses. Not only more talented defenses, but less handcuffed defenses.

His accuracy was elite, when he wasn't being mugged, not as good when he had to scramble. But I think his interception numbers suffered from the era in which he played.

 

[T-RO]

No I don't believe that Tony was a choker at all
Tony was a no holds bar drive it like you stole it gunslinger that love to pass the ball.

That botched hold gave the media something to use in a negative way on him forever.
I don't blame him for that that's completely on parcels you never have your starting quarterback as the holder for field goals he has enough to worry about without having that responsibility.

In my opinion Tony needed a strong coach that could tame his gunslinger mentality down to a dull roar to avoid some of the disasters.

Tony had the potential to be a super bowl quarterback he just needed a coach that could instill a better risk versus reward mentality so he could fulfill that potential in my humble opinion

Thank you for a more reasonable...and less antagonistic take.

 

[T-RO]

Career Interception Rate:
Drew Brees: 2.3%
Ben Roethlisberger 2.5%
Tony Romo: 2.7%
Peyton Manning: 2.7%
Eli Manning: 3.0%
Kurt Warner: 3.1%

I'd say there are some big misconceptions and flawed narratives among Romo critics.

 

[starfan1]

I rooted for Dak in 2016 and supported him as the starter over Romo. Romo's body was done.

I have supported Dak ever since. I'm an objective fan. And as an objective fan I place Romo equal or close to Roger and Aikman. Just didn't have great coach or team around him. Quarterbacks can never win big without it. Same for Dak.

Does that match your description of an "over the top Romo fan"? Never had a Romo jersey or poster but may buy one in your honor.

Enjoy your holiday.

I see your avatar and your interaction in regards to him in this thread with PA.

I’ve seen you in others you certainly have the symptoms but maybe your just an entry level rooter.

 

[T-RO]

my memory of those days tells me that he played against a lot of better defenses.

Just within the division Romo faced these defensive linemen:

Michael Strahan, HOF
Osi Umenyiora, Pro Bowler
Jason Pierre-Paul, Pro Bowler
Justin Tuck, Pro Bowler
Trent Cole, Pro Bowler
Fletcher Cox, future HOF
Brandon Graham, PB
Connor Barwin, Pro Bowler*
Brian Arapko, Pro Bowler
Ryan Kerrigan, Pro Bowler
Albert Haynesworth, Pro Bowler

To be fair, the Eagles defense Troy faced in his first 3, 4 seasons was one of the best ever.


*1 year w/14 sacks

 

[T-RO]

I’ve seen you in others you certainly have the symptoms but maybe your just an entry level rooter.

Props for giving me my first chuckle of the day. I got the disease, but I'm not in the hospital with it.

FYI...I graduated UCLA 2 years before Troy did, and moved to Dallas 1 year before Troy was drafted. Big reason I became a Cowboys fan. Romo could just do things Aikman could never do.

 

[G2]

While I agree that Troy wasn't quite what people make him out to be, my memory of those days tells me that he played against a lot of better defenses. Not only more talented defenses, but less handcuffed defenses.

His accuracy was elite, when he wasn't being mugged, not as good when he had to scramble. But I think his interception numbers suffered from the era in which he played.

Brought his A game in the post season.

 

[T-RO]

Romo 4th Quarter Comeback 21/24
Cowboys 30, Seahawks 23

Facing peak-Seahawks in the Loudest Stadium in America...

Dallas had dominated early, but lost the lead. Romo directs Cowboys to 13 late points.

Romo's line?
21-32 250 yards 2 TD 0 int 110 rating

 

[T-RO]

This is just crazy stuff

 

[Blackrain]

I already told you I'm not buying the different ear garbage it's all in black and white I don't remember them in all the record books in the Hall of Fame when they're showing stats talking about when it used to be 12 games or 14 games or 16 games or now 17 games there's no* by it you played when you played but you're compared to everyone from the beginning of time. So it is clear that Tony Romo was not a person that threw a lot of interceptions if you look at how all his counterparts did that were supposed to be the greatest the Cowboys ever had people are discounting how great Tony Romo really was.. Don't say he couldn't have held up you don't know this I mean you want a time machine go back in time a healthy Romo see if you can hold up no I'm not buying any of that trash it is what it is the stats are clear people here are trying to say that Tony Romo was a choker and he threw too many interceptions and that Tom Landry wouldn't have put up with it yeah he had a player who was worse Danny white was not as good as Tony Romo even though he's compared to him sometimes no Tony Romo is more Brett farve than he is Danny white.. That's what I'm trying to convey to people don't discount what they've done now they're saying Prescott turns the ball over too much it's not true he had an off year but there are far worse years by players who played for us and for other teams that had just as big a names again Troy Aikman had 141 interceptions that's a lot I'm sorry he played on a Hall of Fame team with some of the best players and coaches ever and all he can muster is 165 that's downs and 141 interceptions think about the context of who he played with and he still threw a lot of interceptions if you're comparing them to Prescott and Romo

Got to love it you won't admit that the rules were different in the 70s and it was much harder to throw the ball then it was when Romo played.
So what you're saying is Romo is pretty much a guaranteed Hall of famer.
Because everyone's career is judged on statistics alone

 

[Blackrain]

Thank you for a more reasonable...and less antagonistic take.

I also feel that Garrett was very responsible for Tony Romo not realizing his potential.

I feel he was the absolute worst coach for a player needing some discipline in the risk versus reward category. Tom Landry would have squared Romo away in a big hurry he would have checked out of the run once and then been thrown on the bench.

 

[T-RO]

Got to love it you won't admit that the rules were different in the 70s and it was much harder to throw the ball then it was when Romo played.
So what you're saying is Romo is pretty much a guaranteed Hall of famer.
Because everyone's career is judged on statistics alone

I won't speak for blueblood70...here' my opinion on those two matters:

-Yes it was more difficult to pass in the 70's with the rules. And passing schemes weren't as sophisticated. I try to compare Romo against the very best of his era. His production rivals anyone.

-I can understand why some might not view Romo as HOF worthy. He had a shortened career and played on such lame teams (coach/player combo). It requires logical projection of what could have happened, rather than what did happen. Inevitably, however, Romo will go into the HOF for his combined play and broadcasting.

 

[Blackrain]

I won't speak for blueblood70...here' my opinion on those two matters:

-Yes it was more difficult to pass in the 70's with the rules. And passing schemes weren't as sophisticated. I try to compare Romo against the very best of his era. His production rivals anyone.

-I can understand why some might not view Romo as HOF worthy. He had a shortened career and played on such lame teams (coach/player combo). It requires logical projection of what could have happened, rather than what did happen. Inevitably, however, Romo will go into the HOF for his combined play and broadcasting.

Yeah it's a shame cuz I believe Romo was a better quarterback than Eli but Eli was the luckiest player on the planet and came up big with a couple plays that will be remembered forever.

It is very true that Tony did not throw a lot of interceptions but some of the ones he did throw were at such horrible game altering times that they couldn't be overcome and will be remembered and taint his legacy
This is unfortunate but I believe it is true

 

[T-RO]

It is very true that Tony did not throw a lot of interceptions but some of the ones he did throw were at such horrible game altering times that they couldn't be overcome and will be remembered and taint his legacy
This is unfortunate but I believe it is true

After the "Seattle Snap" play media and fans focused and magnified every single interception. But at the end Tony threw the same rate of INT as Peyton.

It's also a pity that by the time Tony finally had a good offensive line...his back was a chronic mess.

 

[Blackrain]

After the "Seattle Snap" play media and fans focused and magnified every single interception. But at the end Tony threw the same rate of INT as Peyton.

It's also a pity that by the time Tony finally had a good offensive line...his back was a chronic mess.

I totally agree Tony did not throw a lot of interceptions at all it was just much more about when they happened then it was about the quantity.

Unfortunately his body gave him a short window and our owner forced him to play under a horrible coach and a suspect offensive line.

By the time Jerry finally gave in and realized that Tony's body was not going to hold up and he needed an offensive line it was too late.

 

[Blackrain]

Sad thing was when Tony had a decent offensive line and was at the height of his power physically he wasn't there mentally.

He was young dating celebrities and not understanding the short window that he had.

By the time he realized and matured mentally body was already used up

 

[T-RO]

Sad thing was when Tony had a decent offensive line and was at the height of his power physically he wasn't there mentally.

He was young dating celebrities and not understanding the short window that he had.

By the time he realized and matured mentally body was already used up

Not sure about that at all. Most NFL players have very active, sometimes crazy off-field social lives. Players get hot babes--that's sure not something unique to Tony. I can't recall anyone in those years ever saying that Romo wasn't prepared, physically or mentally.

 

[plasticman]

Romo didn't "get a shot' until his fourth season. His first season is unrecorded because he wasn't activated for any.

The reason Romo didn't "get a shot' was because he wasn't ready to play in the NFL. His tenacity during he preseason games earned him the opportunity to sit and learn from Parcells and Payton while backing up guys like Testaverde and Bledsoe.

Romo had some very good years with the Cowboys and i will always regret that he didn't get a shot at a Super bowl just like another very good Cowboys QB, Danny White.

I'm not deliberately knocking Romo but it is true that Romo wasn't exactly Captain Comeback in the most critical games of his career.

 

[T-RO]

Romo wasn't exactly Captain Comeback in the most critical games of his career.

Near impossible to come back in the playoffs--or succeed-- when you have the 22nd ranked defense and your starting line includes guys like Nate Livings, Ryan Cook and Mackenzy Bernadeau.

Oh...but you expected Romo to do it all himself!?

 

[T-RO]

We are 15 pages in...have I mentioned Romo's receivers? Let's take a look shall we?

Romo Receivers Part I: NOT A PRETTY SIGHT


Terry Glenn
Briefly played with Romo. Had some very productive games. But Terry was at the end of his career, and headed for a wall. According to Dallas Observer in in 2009, Glen's personal life was in turmoil. Guy was arrested about a dozen times. Dude melted down from substance abuse. There but for the grace of...

Terrell Owens
One of the greatest head cases and cancers in NFL history. Owens either assaulted or slandered every QB he played with...along with numerous other teammates. I will dedicate a few posts to TOxicity. Besides his countless issues, the guy lost his ability to contribute on the field quite early in Romo's career. He was soon drop-kicked to Buffalo for a year...then punted to Cinci for a year...then jettisoned to Canadien football. According to Owens: nothing was ever his fault. As Parcells predicted: numerous teammates "got sucked" by Owens sociopathic words and it ripped the Cowboys locker room in two. (For years)

Sam Hurd
Great news earlier this year. In February 2023 Hurd was released from federal prison, after serving 10 years for drug trafficking. If you were to guess that he drug down the Cowboys passing game and Romo's career...uh, yeah. To the extent he played.

Patrick Crayton
In contrast to the above players, I applaud Crayton for creating a career for himself. But let's keep it real: dude just wasn't anything special. 7th round pick. PC was A high-effort, but mediocre player who dropped one of the most important passes in Cowboys playoff history.

Miles Austin
Some say Romo "made Austin." I definitely wouldn't say that. But I will remind folks that that he was undrafted. Dude was awesome for a couple of years. Curiously Austin was recently suspended for gambling as a Jets coach. What is it with Jerry Jones' acquired wide receivers?!?

Roy Williams
I'll just say this: Roy was out of football by age 29, and he did have one great season for Detroit. Drug problems? Focus on his job? Let's just say in 2013 Williams owed unpaid debts totalling $587,295.16 (Dallas Observer reported).


Jerry, Oh, Jerry...the things you've screwed over. Like Romo's career.