Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

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2 playoff wins over his career. Many a big game blunder. It’s remarkable how overrated Romo is around here. Guy was a symbol of mediocrity.
And that's probably why I drag myself into these threads because I never learn. It drives me crazy. lol He was a good QB but never great. He lost as many games for us as he won and he failed in many big games. I see him getting compared to HOF QBs even ours. Romo played during an era when the NFL was a passing league. Stats are going to favor him. But he failed in the biggest games. Same as Dak. Dak still has a chance to do something but Romo is done and he is what he is.
 

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Where are the Best 5 ranked defenses Dak played with?
That was already posted...

Best five Dallas Defenses Dak has played alongside so far:
2016, 5th
2018, 6th
2019, 11th
2021, 7th
2022, 6th

I say if you've got a top 8 defense and a top head coach you gotta shot. Otherwise you are doomed to crash in the playoffs.

Dak is still in the middle of his career. After '23 season, could look more like this:
2016, 5th
2018, 6th
2021, 7th
2022, 6th
2023, 3rd

The catch? I don't see McCarthy as a top coach.
 

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But he failed in the biggest games. Same as Dak. Dak still has a chance to do something but Romo is done and he is what he is.
And you are too lazy to ask why. It's way easier in rage just to blame the easiest thing. Quarterbacks are the easiest thing.
 
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Yes we do have to be consistent for Dak and Tony:
IT'S A TEAM GAME!

Fools who can't recognize that a quarterback needs lots of surrounding talent, and almost always a top head coach...should be tarred and feathered.
Which is why %CAP is an important factor.
Romo achieved a lot! How bout he was an undrafted free agent who went on to play the most glorious position in all of sports as the QB of the Dallas Cowboys.
As with Dak, that only applies on the Rookie deal, as soon as they get to being a top earner it doesnt really matter where they cane from.
 

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And you are too lazy to ask why. It's way easier in rage just to blame the easiest thing. Quarterbacks are the easiest thing.
But when the eye test says that they dont 'lead' or even direct the team during the difficult times that's when it's on the QB.....no other offensive player touches the ball on every down (not even Biadasz, when we play Zeke at Center).
 

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If Romo had played in SF with Walsh...with great line, offensive design, top-10 defense...Tony would have 4, maybe 6 Super Bowl titles.

Former QB and analyst Trent Dilfer:
"there's a Mount Rushmore of quarterbacks and if think Romo is not on it, you're crazy."​
 

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But when the eye test says that they dont 'lead' or even direct the team during the difficult times that's when it's on the QB.....no other offensive player touches the ball on every down (not even Biadasz, when we play Zeke at Center).
Quarterbacks are only on the field about 40-45% of the time. And when they are on the field they need blocking, playmakers, and a good system.

If you got losers designing your offense, losers calling your plays, losers blocking up front and losers playing defense...you are dead in the water come the playoffs. How the hell can people not see that?
 

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Prescott__4,902 yards passing during the 2019 season, passed for 4,449 yards in the 2021 season
Dak was also on pace to pass for 6k yards and shatter the NFL single season record (5,400) had he not got injured by breaking his leg in 2020.
 

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Prescott__4,902 yards passing during the 2019 season, passed for 4,449 yards in the 2021 season
Dak is special and Prescott with Moore was magic. We can hope Dak can overcome the collapse in coaching talent.

Losing Moore is a dagger to the heart. Maybe with the addition of better offensive personnel, Dallas can stay near the top offensively. I'm not entirely sure.
 

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Roger had that reputation as he had some high profile comebacks. But he's not even in the conversation.

Current standings, 4th Q comeback:
Tony Romo, 24
Troy Aikman, 15
Roger Staubach, 13
Dak Prescott, 12 (and counting)
In cowboy history Roger staubach is Captain comeback because he made up for other people's mistakes.

Romo will go down in cowboy history as basically the piss boy because he cleaned up after his own mistakes
 

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Quarterbacks are only on the field about 40-45% of the time. And when they are on the field they need blocking, playmakers, and a good system.

If you got losers designing your offense, losers calling your plays, losers blocking up front and losers playing defense...you are dead in the water come the playoffs. How the hell can people not see that?
The QB touches the ball on 100% of the offensive plays (unless the ball's kicked away). You can't have top paid players at all positions, something has to give.
I get the impression that the under-par receiving corp was in part a test as to whether Dak could step up to the contract, it's obviously failed.
I give you the Bucc's game as the oxymoron to your whole position....where was the substandard supporting cast there.
The difference is whether the players can step up when needed and pretty much everything's immaterial if the QB can't do his bit.
There's a chance for improvement, throughout the offense: better blocking, varied running game, Cooks and WCO, playcalling... everything's there for Dak.
 

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And that's probably why I drag myself into these threads because I never learn. It drives me crazy. lol He was a good QB but never great. He lost as many games for us as he won and he failed in many big games. I see him getting compared to HOF QBs even ours. Romo played during an era when the NFL was a passing league. Stats are going to favor him. But he failed in the biggest games. Same as Dak. Dak still has a chance to do something but Romo is done and he is what he is.
There's this perverse belief, by an element on here, that if you query whether Dak you must be a Romo fan. Personally I don't get the connection.
 

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In cowboy history Roger staubach is Captain comeback because he made up for other people's mistakes.

Romo will go down in cowboy history as basically the piss boy because he cleaned up after his own mistakes
Interesting theory. But Romo threw fewer interceptions than Roger -- Tony made fewer mistakes, as we see in the hard data.

Wanna rethink and try a modified theory?
 

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Interesting theory. But Romo threw fewer interceptions than Roger -- Tony made fewer mistakes, as we see in the hard data.

Wanna rethink and try a modified theory?
I'm having a good time watching you try and prop up a guy who threw like five interceptions against the bills in one of his comebacks that will only be remembered for how bad he actually. played.

Compare that to the real Captain comeback who had arguably the most iconic play in football with the hail Mary against the Vikings in '75 playoff game that will always be remembered for how great he played and how great he was.
 

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There's this perverse belief, by an element on here, that if you query whether Dak you must be a Romo fan. Personally I don't get the connection.
You are reminding me of my brother when he's smoked so much he can't frame a single sentence that makes sense. Maybe take a break from posting and enjoy some music?
 

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I get the point of this thread but it's hard to completely take seriously when Derek Carr is leading the pack. I feel like there's more to the story. As in the case with the Cowboys, did they put themselves into that position? How many slow starts has this team historically had. and no, this isn't a Romo thing because they've been slow starters with Dak too.
I found it interesting that 4 of the top 5 on that list are regarded as bus drivers at best.

To me it indicates that these guys are very good QB's who did their best to overcome the bad team around them.
 
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