Where Romo Ranks all-time as Captain Comeback (and complete success story)

[shabazz]

Kyle Orton played in one of those three games you saying Romo flopped in (2013 in Philly). Romo was injured and didn't take a single snap.

Romo had his issues, no doubt. But people seem to remember what they want to remember be it true or not. Even like to blame him for games he never played in.

Great points. One of the reasons that Romo still gets some love in this forum is the he was JUST PLAIN FUN TO WATCH. He could literally pull a win out of a loss and a loss out of a win with turnovers BUT we all knew that he could be the winning decider in playing against a far better team

there were and still are better quarterbacks to have played the game but some are like watching paint dry.

Mahomes is the living embodiment of a quarterback that is fun to watch AND gets it done on the biggest stages

 

[DFWJC]

Fwiw.....On a PER GAME basis, Romo is in the top 2 or 3 all-time in this weird category.


It's like in baseball.....if you have 250 hits in 2000 at bat (.125 batting ave) it's not nearly as good as if you only had 200 hits in 600 at bats (.333 ave)

 

[TwoDeep3]

You stepped right in it.

Facts of the game:
-Romo's brings the Cowboys back from 15 pts down to lead 39-38, and then briefly expanded lead
-Romo out-dueled Manning--a lot more yards on fewer throws(5), more TD's and the same # INTs (1).
-Dallas gave up 51 points in the loss

Yet you focus on Romo's one interception. And instead of heaping scorn on the defense, you blame Romo's one bad play for the loss. By bringing up this game and framing it as you do...you prove my point and disqualify yourself as an objective reviewer.

Romo: 25/36 506 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT. 140 RTG
P. Manning: 33/42 , 4 TD, 1 INT. 129.6 RTG

The one interception that lost the game.

You see, your response was exactly what others were saying that day. You cannot give him credit for coming back, then losing the game by his hand and saying he did something great.

You ignore his losing the game with a decision he made, then tell me the fact I point this decision and loss out disqualifies me to comment. Your stats are meaningless in a THREAD STARTED BY YOU, about Romo coming back in games if HE THREW THE LOSING INTERCEPTION.

The term Captain Comeback which you inserted in the title and branded Romo, was placed on Roger Staubach because he brought the teams back AND WON THE GAME.

By your standard a QB can be down by seven in the first quarter, drive for a field goal, then get the ball again and drive for a TD, and then his team loses by 24 because this QB BROUGHT THE TEAM BACK FROM BEHIND.

That is an absurd use of the term created by journalists or announcers when meaning coming back for the win, and you using it to merely suggest he came back and tied or went ahead for a brief time in a game the team lost.

My opinion, if this board were to decide on what disqualifies who in this discussion, the majority would tell you the same as I am telling you. You're bending the meaning to fit your weak narrative.

 

[TwoDeep3]

don't think that statement is true. I've never ever seen a Romo hater who isn't a dak worshiper.......

I have read your responses in this thread tossing out the hater label, ad infinitum.

So, if I tell you it's raining outside, which at the time it is, by your standards, I am a sunshine hater. I offer a fact, and it somehow, in your mind, means I must have a visceral negative reaction toward non-raining days. That is the equivalent to your argument by labeling.

I can appreciate some of the things Romo did. But I can also look for myself and see the mistakes he made and speak about them without despising the guy, as you seem to consider me to be doing by not drinking his bath water, as so many in this thread continue to do..

 

[DFWJC]

You choose to judge Tony over a non-quarterback play, playing as a FG holder?

What happened that led up to that play? Why the slip? Why was Tony playing special teams as a starting quarterback.

Maybe some interesting questions if you are open to explore something beside "God Roger Staubach".

Blackrain has always had a vitriolic hate for Romo. Tunnel vision on the mistakes while ignoring the 10x good stuff.
Maybe he has some understanding of football otherwise (not sure, really) but feel free to just ignore him on this topic as he is never rational.

 

[blueblood70]

Interesting theory. But Romo threw fewer interceptions than Roger -- Tony made fewer mistakes, as we see in the hard data.

Wanna rethink and try a modified theory?

Tony Romo was one of my favorite Cowboys of all time he definitely has a slight edge over deck because he's just better in the pocket as far as no matter how cluttered it got Tony always seemed to keep his head downfield looking for the big play even when things were breaking down and always trying to navigate the pocket up left up right and just trying to make that play.. That's the only real big difference between Prescott hey Romo the pocket presents that feel for when to give up on the play and take a sack or throw it out of bounds it seems like Prescott takes off too early or runs the wrong direction inside the pocket just Romo is just a master at it.

I know people love Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman for good reasons I didn't really get to watch Roger so I don't know a lot about him from my point of view Troy Aikman had some of the most beneficial help to his career by having one of the best running backs of all time that never seemed to be hurt and one of the best offensive lines of all time and one of the best coaching Staffs of all time and some of the best defensive players of all time that always seemed to play the best in the bigger games., I watched Troy play it a lot and yes he was talented yes he was a very good quarterback but I watched him just sit back and drive a bus many many play games that's why that stat you put up there is touchdown per pass percentage I mean his touchdown interception ratio is in good either to have all that talent around you and still only have 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions and somehow he's regarded as one of the best quarterbacks of all time because he's in the Hall of Fame and yet people don't see just how good Tony Romo really was not having all those benefits imagine Prescott and Romo having that line that running game those coaches and that defense every time they stepped on the field in the playoffs

I know they both had some decent defenses at times some really good offensive lineman at times and the run game was strong at times but it seemed like every time they got into the playoffs they either were missing players or the players were injured or they just made mistakes around the quarterback that the quarterback somehow was expected to overcome and I think that's an unfair expectation Roger Staubach and Troy Aikman did not have to literally carry the team by themselves their teams always seem to support them they always played their best team games in the biggest games that's why when I've said to even a lot of my family members are huge Dallas cowboy fans and none of them always agree to me that Tony Romo it's possibly in my opinion better than Troy Aikman or at least as good if he was able to just take out and put in Romo on those same teams I mean I still think we win and maybe that's the case with Prescott too they literally are getting in these playoff games and not having the best offensive line and the run game it always seems to fall apart especially lately against the 49ers.

I'm not saying definitively that Tony Romo is as good or better than Troy Aikman but my opinion is that if he was given the same benefits I think he could have been every bit as successful as Troy Aikman.

I mean if you look at it the quarterback that they say he most resembled it was Brett farve and I believe that Tony Romo should have got a Super Bowl just like Brett farve Brett farve just happened to be on a better team whether one of the better coaches but he only won one in 19 years I can imagine if Tony Romo could have been on one of those teams one of Rogers teams or Troy 's teams he would have won Super Bowl.

And I know this is long winded so this is the end of my rant but I agree I'm looking up there and you said if Tony Romo would have ended up on bill Walsh 's teams he might have a bunch of Super Bowls I don't know about a bunch but at least one people underestimated and didn't appreciate Tony Romo and I think right now even though I think Prescott's just a little bit under Tony Romo they're doing the same thing with Prescott now they're blaming him for team deficiencies,

 

[America's Cowboy]

Ironic.

No. I bash Dak when he messes up or gets greedy. You never bash your player crush.

 

[diamonddelts]

He was amazing at bringing us back.
right after he put us down in the first half.

THIS

 

[quickccc]

he never won when it mattered.
His 3 straight years of needing a win in final game to make playoffs and flopping all 3 times sealed his reputation. The rest of your stats/numbers/charts mean nothing

Many do not realize that " Babe Laufenberg " decided to format Romo's 4th Quarter comeback stats ... which could mean his led his team from behind in 3rd quarter to take the lead
in the 4th quarter ... but it is totally different than with leading his team from behind in the last 2 minute warning to win games .

I mean how many 2 minute warning comebacks can we remember Romo having ?
Especially in comparisons with the past the Hall of Fame QBs

He just wasn't Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Peyton Manning or Dan Marino in this sense.

What really puzzles me was no NFL statistician even dared to follow up and thouroughly check Laufenberg's formatted Romo's 4th quarter/2 minute warning stats.

Mind Boggling !!!

 

[Vtwin]

To me there has to be an element of improbability to be considered a comeback.

Being down two scores at the beginning of the 4th qtr doesn't necessarily make a comeback worthy of accolades. Especially in today's NFL.

 

[pansophy]

Sad but true...

Room had to play for Garrett most of his career and Garrett can’t even get a job as an OC. Completely out of the league.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Room had to play for Garrett most of his career and Garrett can’t even get a job as an OC. Completely out of the league.

True, but Romo had a big say in that. Often chucking it up and even hanging out off-the-field with Garrett during those many years. Romo definitely gave Jerry the green light into keeping Garrett as Head Coach & O-Coordinator all of those years.

 

[T-RO]

The one interception that lost the game.

You see, your response was exactly what others were saying that day. You cannot give him credit for coming back, then losing the game by his hand and saying he did something great.

You ignore his losing the game with a decision he made, then tell me the fact I point this decision and loss out disqualifies me to comment. Your stats are meaningless in a THREAD STARTED BY YOU, about Romo coming back in games if HE THREW THE LOSING INTERCEPTION.

The term Captain Comeback which you inserted in the title and branded Romo, was placed on Roger Staubach because he brought the teams back AND WON THE GAME.

By your standard a QB can be down by seven in the first quarter, drive for a field goal, then get the ball again and drive for a TD, and then his team loses by 24 because this QB BROUGHT THE TEAM BACK FROM BEHIND.

That is an absurd use of the term created by journalists or announcers when meaning coming back for the win, and you using it to merely suggest he came back and tied or went ahead for a brief time in a game the team lost.

My opinion, if this board were to decide on what disqualifies who in this discussion, the majority would tell you the same as I am telling you. You're bending the meaning to fit your weak narrative.

Good lawd. This stat only counts comebacks that end in wins.

The Denver game was not included in the tally, nor in this stat. The fact, however, that you blame Romo for a game where he led his team to...
48 points with a line of...25-36-506-5-1...not blaming the defense for giving up 51...shows how whacked your opinion is.

 

[T-RO]

True, but Romo had a big say in that. Often chucking it up and even hanging out off-the-field with Garrett during those many years. Romo definitely gave Jerry the green light into keeping Garrett as Head Coach & O-Coordinator all of those years.

Sure thing Romo is somehow responsible for Garrett getting hired, LOL. We all are watching you in your desperation!

 

[T-RO]

if you look at it the quarterback that they say he most resembled it was Brett farve and I believe that Tony Romo should have got a Super Bowl just like Brett farve Brett farve just happened to be on a better team whether one of the better coaches but he only won one in 19 years I can imagine if Tony Romo could have been on one of those teams one of Rogers teams or Troy 's teams he would have won Super Bowl.

And I know this is long winded so this is the end of my rant but I agree I'm looking up there and you said if Tony Romo would have ended up on bill Walsh 's teams he might have a bunch of Super Bowls I don't know about a bunch but at least one people underestimated and didn't appreciate Tony Romo and I think right now even though I think Prescott's just a little bit under Tony Romo they're doing the same thing with Prescott now they're blaming him for team deficiencies,

Exactly.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Sure thing Romo is somehow responsible for Garrett getting hired, LOL. We all are watching you in your desperation!

We? You and your Romo-loving / Dak-hating group are a joke in here. Seriously. No use in asking y'all to grow up, because you won't. You refuse. Your Dak hate drives you, and your goal is to continue spewing your Dak hate 24/7. It's pathetic. One can't even come in here to root for this team and its franchise QB because y'all immediately pounce and act up. It's been this way for years. Y'all are the ones who have ruined this website.

 

[T-RO]

Your Dak hate drives you

Dak hate? I've defended, even celebrated Dak on this forum hundreds of times over the years. Started numerous pro-Dak threads. And I stand by Dak to this day.

But you say this "site is ruined"? You say my "goal is to spew Dak hate 24/7"?

You sound hysterical.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Good lawd. This stat only counts comebacks that end in wins.

The Denver game was not included in the tally, nor in this stat. The fact, however, that you blame Romo for a game where he led his team to...
48 points with a line of...25-36-506-5-1...not blaming the defense for giving up 51...shows how whacked your opinion is.

Any excuse in the storm, huh?

 

[America's Cowboy]

It's not even close at to which is the bigger passer...

 

[T-RO]

To me there has to be an element of improbability to be considered a comeback.

Being down two scores at the beginning of the 4th qtr doesn't necessarily make a comeback worthy of accolades. Especially in today's NFL.

Let's look at some of the comebacks, shall we?

4th Quarter Comeback #1 of 21

Dallas (3-3) at Carolina (4-2). Romo's first NFL start. Panthers favored by 5.5 points. Romo leads Cowboys to 25 fourth quarter points, and win.

Next up: face off with Peyton Manning