Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

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I don't consider all of that Romo's issue and I am far from one of his apologists.

Me either.

I thought I'd throw it out there -- by itself it tells us almost nothing -- like the "2010 is the only season in which Romo had a losing record in the games he started." post I replied to.
 

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yep and it only took 9 season playing for Garrett to ruin his body and chance of success in post seasons.
 

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1-4 isnt a season in case you didnt notice. Its only 5 games. that is a called a "stretch" of games.
, I think it was pretty clear. he didn't say the team. he explicitly said, games Romo started....then he got injured..... he didn't say season or team or in 16 games....very explicit statement.
 

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Injuries along the Oline, a few tough breaks, bad coaching both with Wade and Garrett, and Romo went down.
yeha, you have to throw garrett in there...ok....then what happened when the team went 5-3 under garrett? the offense was scoring at a very high level during the first 8 games..the defense was horrid...that 1-7 stretch was all wade.... and his incompetence. the 5-3 after he was fired proves it.

and be careful using injuries as an excuse...because we can do the same from 2011- to now...like last year......
 

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It had enough talent to go 11-6 the year before. OR was Wade a great coach?

IT had enough talent to go 5-3 under Garrett without Romo. With Romo, it was playoff roster.
it had enough talent to go 11-6 the year before,

but then another crappy draft after crappy draft...players got older and when injuries happened and you had a crappy draft, you had no depth......and the team sucked.

you said it yourself.... they had injuries.......and no depth.......

and better coaching got that depleted talent to go 5-3......or are you saying coaching doesn't matter? and its all just about the talent?
 

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  • Each season the roster is tweaked so it’s difficult to say.

    But in 2010 we can say Wade was 1-7 and 1-5 with Romo starting. Garrett was 5-3 without Romo. Those are facts.

    Now we can spin those facts to support an agenda. I’d say Garrett made the most of a bad situation.
its just that they don't want to come out and say wade was a horrible, bad coach...they just want to spin it to say it was all garrett's fault. if they said, Wade sucked...and Garrett sucks...we be done with it....
 

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yep and Wade was strapped with a HC/OC who had no experience at all. Wade wanted to bring in Dan Reeves to train boy wonder, but no Jason went crying to daddy, so how many years have passed with Jerry having to train boy wonder... How many players career was wasted waiting on boy wonder to learn how to be a coach and read the defenses. Oh yeah he's got Jerry's ear... that's something to be proud off... we're irrelevant but "jason has jerry's ear".. who else could we bring in who would "have jerry's ear" uuum maybe some guy who cleans the toilets. his nickname could be hit or miss from cleaning up all the pee from guys missing the toilets.
when they do jason's bio on tv, maybe they can play the agony of defeat video of the skier missing his jump on ABC sports old show... and just keep it in a loop while talking about Jason.
yep, that inexperienced OC, had the offense as the 2nd, 3rd, 15th and 7th best offense in the league in the 4 years he was the OC....not sure what to make of that....

wade didn't want to bring Dan Reeves...correction.....Jerry Wanted to bring dan reeves as a consultant and Reeves didn't want to be just a consultant and wanted more power and that didn't work out.

and not sure what to make of the statements about cry baby, and jerry's ears...are you telling me Jerry is stuppid? he is clueless? and that Jason is so dang smart that he has fooled Jerry the billionaire, his son, and half of the management in Dallas? how is that possible?

sounds like you got a personal vendetta against garrett...its not about the team or coaching, but its at a personal level....just sayin....
 

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it had enough talent to go 11-6 the year before,

but then another crappy draft after crappy draft...players got older and when injuries happened and you had a crappy draft, you had no depth......and the team sucked.

you said it yourself.... they had injuries.......and no depth.......

and better coaching got that depleted talent to go 5-3......or are you saying coaching doesn't matter? and its all just about the talent?

Ah injuries happened? Nailed it. Team had talent, it just got injured and went through a bad stretch. And even with the talent remaining it went 5-3 the next 8 games without Romo. So your theory that Garrett took over a bad team or a team without talent has been totally and completely blown out of the water.
 

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Ah injuries happened? Nailed it. Team had talent, it just got injured and went through a bad stretch. And even with the talent remaining it went 5-3 the next 8 games without Romo. So your theory that Garrett took over a bad team or a team without talent has been totally and completely blown out of the water.
Regardless , the talent wasn’t performing under Wade. The team had totally collapsed with and without Romo.

Garrett made the most of the rest of season and a bad situation. If you couldn’t see the difference the night he took over in the Meadowlands then I can’t help you.
 

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its just that they don't want to come out and say wade was a horrible, bad coach...they just want to spin it to say it was all garrett's fault. if they said, Wade sucked...and Garrett sucks...we be done with it....
They’re certainly entitled to spin it as they see it and we’re allowed to call it out and challenge.

A good measurement by mgmt or coaching is ; are we in a better place than when you took over?
 

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Ah injuries happened? Nailed it. Team had talent, it just got injured and went through a bad stretch. And even with the talent remaining it went 5-3 the next 8 games without Romo. So your theory that Garrett took over a bad team or a team without talent has been totally and completely blown out of the water.

WHAT!!!???? what are you trying to spin this into another argument...and we will get to the talent level soon.....

this was not about a talent vs. no talent. we can argue that until cows come home. this is about your defense of Wade...

regardless of talent level, same team, same group of players.... Garrett still got that team to 5-3...when wade was 1-7...... end of story.....wade sucked. he was horrible. he was down right awful. he took a talented team Parcells left behind and ran it to the ground. he was as bad or worse than Campo.

and the talent if any was at the top, with no depth, 4 years of horrible drafts left the tank empty at the end.... crapppy drafts depleted that team of talent and by the end, it had to be rebuild....in the next 3 years after garrett took over, 45 of 53 players on that team were gone and replaced.....that should tell you how much talent there was on that team.......
 

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Tony Romo failed to exceed 8 wins in 10 out of 13 seasons he played in the NFL.
you missed the stat in games he was actually ON the field playing, not overall records..smh you win and lose as a team but his stats as a starting QB that has him at the top over Aikman, Staubach, white and Meredith speak for themselves..he earned every yard and TD and had one of the best td-INT ratio in team history..lets not go there, if you looked at all the stats blindly people would think Romos numbers were one of the other HOF Cowboy QB but his REg season stats put Aikmans to shame.. too bad Romo didnt have 6 Plus HOF players around him, a HOF coach, and in the beginning a better nfl system that created the depth that made those teams awesome..why do we always circle back around to Romo, let the guy move on..
 

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Regardless , the talent wasn’t performing under Wade. The team had totally collapsed with and without Romo.

Garrett made the most of the rest of season and a bad situation. If you couldn’t see the difference the night he took over in the Meadowlands then I can’t help you.

Coaching often lights a new fire. And Garrett was forced to run the ball. That was the difference. I’m not defending wade. Simply pointing out that Garrett took over a good team with a franchise qb in his prime. Not immediately, but the following season when all injuries were through.
 

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WHAT!!!???? what are you trying to spin this into another argument...and we will get to the talent level soon.....

this was not about a talent vs. no talent. we can argue that until cows come home. this is about your defense of Wade...

regardless of talent level, same team, same group of players.... Garrett still got that team to 5-3...when wade was 1-7...... end of story.....wade sucked. he was horrible. he was down right awful. he took a talented team Parcells left behind and ran it to the ground. he was as bad or worse than Campo.

and the talent if any was at the top, with no depth, 4 years of horrible drafts left the tank empty at the end.... crapppy drafts depleted that team of talent and by the end, it had to be rebuild....in the next 3 years after garrett took over, 45 of 53 players on that team were gone and replaced.....that should tell you how much talent there was on that team.......

Lol....I’m not defending wade. Maybe that’s why your such an angry guy. Comprehension skills are lacking. Simply pointed out that your hero took over a team with good talent.
 

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I knew John Defillipo from college. (Went to JMU). Great guy, smart... I'd take him as the coach of my beloved Cowboys...plus I would contact him to get me good seats and some better access somehow. Works for me.
 

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Coaching often lights a new fire. And Garrett was forced to run the ball. That was the difference. I’m not defending wade. Simply pointing out that Garrett took over a good team with a franchise qb in his prime. Not immediately, but the following season when all injuries were through.
He definitely had a franchise QB but a “ good” team is arguable.

By the beginning of 2011 the team was coming off a 6-10 season which I wouldn’t define as good. Certainly not as good as the team was coming off a 11-6 season.
 
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