Which Head Coach that is available is better than Garrett right now?

[Diehardblues]

What are you giving Garrett credit for exactly? He was hired to coach this team on game day. Call plays, run the offense, be the offensive genius. How has he done there? Did Garrett hire McClay? Who has stepped more into the picture over the last 10 years? Stephen Jones? Who's influence has it been during the draft to NOT go with high risk guys like Manziel? Stephen. Who deals with the salary cap and signing FA's? Stephen. To me its been his influence that has been the biggest along with McClay.

But I do give credit to Garrett for spearheading sticking with Dak and moving on from Romo. For you anti Dak guys that has to sting a little knowing your hero helped launch Romo into retirement.

I credit Jerry for booting Romo out. I’m critical of Daks passing ability not him. I applauded him in 2016 and criticized last year. I can applaud again if he goes on another winning wave but my support is not unconditional.

Garrett is more than just a HC here. He’s a walk around GM. He’s steering and influencing Jerry away from his worst instincts. His Game Day coaching is only part of the equation in our dysfunctional situation.

 

[CowboyRoy]

a team with good talent that were injured? right? you can't have it both ways....you use injuries as an excuse...then you say they had talent?

OMG.............injured talent. Sheesh!! Cmon buddy.

How about this...............the team that went 1-7 was bad because some of the talent was injured and they had some bad luck and coaching. Sound good to you? Lets move on. Forget about the team before and after the 1-7 stretch. Seems a little too complicated at this point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I credit Jerry for booting Romo out. I’m critical of Daks passing ability not him. I applauded him in 2016 and criticized last year. I can applaud again if he goes on another winning wave but my support is not unconditional.

Garrett is more than just a HC here. He’s a walk around GM. He’s steering and influencing Jerry away from his worst instincts. His Game Day coaching is only part of the equation in our dysfunctional situation.

Garrett is a walk around GM? LOL

Wow, just wow. Its pretty clear you have no idea how things work around in here. Garrett has the least amount of control or influence then any coach in the NFL. And its been getting less and less since the day he got here.

At this point I have no interest in talking about Garrett with you. You are so far off base that its pointless.

 

[Diehardblues]

Garrett is a walk around GM? LOL

Wow, just wow. Its pretty clear you have no idea how things work around in here. Garrett has the least amount of control or influence then any coach in the NFL. And its been getting less and less since the day he got here.

At this point I have no interest in talking about Garrett with you. You are so far off base that its pointless.

How things work in here?
Yea I know. Your right and we’re wrong . Lol

Last time I checked this is an opinion based forum. You spin facts to support your narrative and me mine. Am I missing anything ? Ha

 

[Diehardblues]

OMG.............injured talent. Sheesh!! Cmon buddy.

How about this...............the team that went 1-7 was bad because some of the talent was injured and they had some bad luck and coaching. Sound good to you? Lets move on. Forget about the team before and after the 1-7 stretch. Seems a little too complicated at this point.

It’s not complicated . It’s subjective beyond the factual results . You’ve interpreted them one way and others another. Pretty simple stuff Cowboy Roy. Lol

 

[CowboyRoy]

It’s not complicated . It’s subjective beyond the factual results . You’ve interpreted them one way and others another. Pretty simple stuff Cowboy Roy. Lol

Garrett is nothing close to a walk around GM here. To say that is beyond laughable. But by all means you believe what you want. In my opinion it seems to be one reason why you seem so high on Garrett when most are not.

You scoff that Dak needs everything great around him to be good, which is also off base. But what has Garrett done with marginal things great around him? Not much. If there is one thing that is clearly obvious is that Garrett cant coach up talent. HE of all people needs things perfect around him. For this team to go far they basically need more talent than anyone else.

Garrett is a handicap.

 

[Diehardblues]

Only Jimmy and Bill have had more influence over Jerry than Jason who is without a doubt the 3rd best HC in Jerry era.

 

[Diehardblues]

Garrett is nothing close to a walk around GM here. To say that is beyond laughable. But by all means you believe what you want. In my opinion it seems to be one reason why you seem so high on Garrett when most are not.

You scoff that Dak needs everything great around him to be good, which is also off base. But what has Garrett done with marginal things great around him? Not much. If there is one thing that is clearly obvious is that Garrett cant coach up talent. HE of all people needs things perfect around him. For this team to go far they basically need more talent than anyone else.

Garrett is a handicap.

I’d agree Garrett needs more elite talent around him on defense and at QB.

Garrett is a product of the dysfunctional situation Jerry has created. I’m always open to another puppet who you’d think would have more success and influence Jerry the way he has.

And I don’t have to be high on Garrett to believe this is probably as good of situation as we’re goIng to get with Jerry.

 

[Diehardblues]

We’re stuck with a GM like Jerry, a VP like Stephen and probably a HC like Garrett. But must we be stuck with a QB like Dak because it appears another hurdle we must overcome.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’d agree Garrett needs more elite talent around him on defense and at QB.

Garrett is a product of the dysfunctional situation Jerry has created. I’m always open to another puppet who you’d think would have more success and influence Jerry the way he has.

That is the point, he needs someone he respect the opinion of, not a puppet. Garrett is the EXACT type of coach he should never be paired with. Parcells was a good example, although I loathed the Parcells years. But he would be the perfect type of coach for this team now. The younger version. Smash mouth with a QB like Dak.

You just seem a little off kilter sometimes. I see you has a home town guy when it comes to most stuff. But we get a good young QB in here and you are against him. Doesnt add up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We’re stuck with a GM like Jerry, a VP like Stephen and probably a HC like Garrett. But must be be stuck with a QB like Dak because it appears another hurdle we must overcome.

Do you like winning? Because Dak has been 22-10 his first two seasons thus far. And all of that was with Garrett as head coach and a marginal defense. 6 games with a bad Oline and no Zeke.

Sorry that you cant see that my man. As a guy who is always highly critical of the Cowboys, my take is that Dak is the real deal. To me it is laughably obvious.

I think you guys just get stuck on the Romo thing. I was a HUGE Romo guy, but it was time for him to go. Dak needs to gain experience and that includes growing pains which we went through last year and there will be more. Probably at some point in the playoffs going forward. ONE of the big reasons I wanted to move on from Romo. The team around the QB was NOT ready. Needed a few more years of good drafts and better management. We are getting that now. Dak is already in year 3. Hopefully its coming together.

 

[Diehardblues]

But I don’t have to join the Lynch Mob on Garrett. I’m rooting for him because he’s the closet thing we have to our glorious history being an explayer for Jimmy and his dad a scout with Landry.

Garrett wants to be here influencing Jerry for the team he loves which it has to be with his families history here. Garrett has some liabilities but IMO within Jerry’s limitations we could do much worse. And we have. We just need more elite talent in key positions because we already have too many handicaps to overcome.

 

[Diehardblues]

Do you like winning? Because Dak has been 22-10 his first two seasons thus far. And all of that was with Garrett as head coach and a marginal defense. 6 games with a bad Oline and no Zeke.

Sorry that you cant see that my man. As a guy who is always highly critical of the Cowboys, my take is that Dak is the real deal. To me it is laughably obvious.

I think you guys just get stuck on the Romo thing. I was a HUGE Romo guy, but it was time for him to go. Dak needs to gain experience and that includes growing pains which we went through last year and there will be more. Probably at some point in the playoffs going forward. ONE of the big reasons I wanted to move on from Romo. The team around the QB was NOT ready. Needed a few more years of good drafts and better management. We are getting that now. Dak is already in year 3. Hopefully its coming together.

If Dak gets back to winning ways and finds a championship game. I’ll like him.

We’ll see how much everyone likes Dak if we go no further than we did with Romo. Except for the slobberers of course like we had with Romo who loved watching him slinging it around in the regular season.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We’re stuck with a GM like Jerry, a VP like Stephen and probably a HC like Garrett. But must we be stuck with a QB like Dak because it appears another hurdle we must overcome.

Lets just agree on one thing here. All the things you mentioned we have had for years. And even had them with Romo as QB and where has it gotten us?

The best thing you can have to erase bad coaching or QB play is to have a great defense. Its the ONLY thing this team HASNT had. We need a great defense, its the ONLY way to win a championship here in Dallas.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If Dak gets back to winning ways and finds a championship game. I’ll like him.

We’ll see how much everyone likes Dak if we go no further than we did with Romo. Except for the slobberers of course like we had with Romo who loved watching him slinging it around in the regular season.

We will never win anything of significance until we have a better defense. All this talk is a waste of time otherwise. Dak or whomever will suffer the same fate.

 

[Diehardblues]

We will never win anything of significance until we have a better defense. All this talk is a waste of time otherwise. Dak or whomever will suffer the same fate.

The top elite QB don’t need an elite defense to reach the pinnacle.. just win it all.

 

[Diehardblues]

Lets just agree on one thing here. All the things you mentioned we have had for years. And even had them with Romo as QB and where has it gotten us?

The best thing you can have to erase bad coaching or QB play is to have a great defense. Its the ONLY thing this team HASNT had. We need a great defense, its the ONLY way to win a championship here in Dallas.

My argument is about reaching that stage. Which can be done with an Elite QB or defense.

I can bash our defense as much as our QB. I just think it might be easier for our dysfunctional handicapped franchise to find that one elite QB than build an elite defense.

If Dak isn’t anymore elite than Romo we’re still screwed.

 

[BAT]

Some of these no longer available but decent list.

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[CowboyRoy]

The top elite QB don’t need an elite defense to reach the pinnacle.. just win it all.

So you wont be happy until we have Tom Brady at QB?

But your fine with Garrett? Mistifying................

Tom Brady loses when his defense isnt good. Elway never won squat without Terrell Davis and a good D. Rogers only won the SB when his defense led the league in turnovers. Manning won ONE time without a good defense. Won it in Denver WITH a great defense.

IF your waiting around for the next Manning , Brady, or Rogers you might as well just give it up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

My argument is about reaching that stage. Which can be done with an Elite QB or defense.

I can bash our defense as much as our QB. I just think it might be easier for our dysfunctional handicapped franchise to find that one elite QB than build an elite defense.

If Dak isn’t anymore elite than Romo we’re still screwed.

Yah, right there is another out of left field thought of yours. Easier to find a Tom Brady then to find a great defense? Not in my book. And we already have a great run game so it becomes less of a need.

And lets not forget that Brady had Bellicheck. You need waaaaay more then just an elite QB.