Who Are You Happiest Is Gone From the 2006 Team
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THUMPER;1523418 said:
The players failed the coaches just as much as vice versa. The only issues I take with Zimmer were those blitz disguises (read: Not disguised at all). Even when he tried to mix things up late in the year, the players couldn't execute it.
Rivera was lousy from the word go. No push on the line, medicre in pas protection. Our inability to play ball-control offense really hurt down the stretch - our team would have been far worse if Romo hadn't been so phenomenal. The only player on that list who rivaled him for damage done to the team last year was Drew.
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I'm very happy that Superpunk is gone...
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tomson75
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superpunk;1523416 said:
Personally, I'm pretty much glad all of those guys are gone. Blesoe may be right up there with Rivera when you take acount for failures...
Oh hell yeah, those pickle ticklers up there are freaks...they wear banana hammocks to the super market for chrissake.
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Out of all the members with agendas, yours has to be the worst.eduncan22;1523113 said:If you have A. Henry and A. Glenn in your secondary, do you really think your pass defense is going to be #1 ?
After the Saints game, everyone knew how to hit this team.
Never mind, you are second to McCordsville.
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THUMPER;1523414 said:
I agree we weren't the best in those years, but I do attribute some of the blame to Campo's puppet master and GM Jurrah Jones.
My arguement is this " I do not understand all the Zimmer bashing, he was decent in his career with the Cowboy's "
After reading some of his highlights I still agree. He did not "suck". He was decent and made due with what he had. I'm not even arguing that he was Great or even Good for that matter.
Here's his old bio...
http://www.dallascowboys.com/team_coach_mike_zimmer.cfm
"After helping shape the Cowboys pass defense into one of the NFL's best in the second half of the 1990s, Mike Zimmer was handed the responsibility of coordinating the Cowboys defense on Feb. 1, 2000.
During his nine seasons in Dallas, Zimmer has been a part of four NFC Eastern Division titles and the Cowboys Super Bowl XXX win over Pittsburgh.
Five times in those nine seasons, the Dallas defense has finished the year ranked in the top 10 in total defense, and six times the club has ranked in the top 10 in pass defense.
Despite playing with the youngest secondary in the NFL in 2002, Zimmer's squad finished the year 18th in the NFL in total defense, 15th against the run and 19th against the pass.
On a play-by-play basis, the Cowboys were sixth in the league in yards-per-play, third in rushing yards-per-attempt and 13th in passing yards-per-attempt.
Only six teams allowed fewer touchdowns than the 32 given up by Dallas, and the 10 rushing touchdowns given up by Dallas was the fifth best total in the league.
Five times during the year, the Dallas defense allowed 13 points-or-less. Setting the pace with young players, Zimmer had two rookies, safety Roy Williams and cornerback Derek Ross, tie for fourth in the NFC with five interceptions each.
In 2001, the Cowboys allowed 1,710 rushing yards, a figure that was 927 yards less than the club allowed during the 2000 season. That figure represented the largest turnaround in the NFL in 2001.
The club's overall defense showed a 730-yard improvement when compared to the previous season, jumping the club from an overall NFL ranking of 19th in 2000 to fourth in 2001.
The Dallas defense jumped from 31st against the run in 2000 to 13th, allowing an average of 106.9 yards-per-game on the ground. The Cowboys were third in the NFL (second in the NFC) in pass defense, giving up an average of 180.6 yards-per-game.
The unit gave up fewer than 200 passing yards in seven of its last nine games, while allowing only one opposing quarterback to throw for more than 300 yards in 16 regular season games.
The Cowboys 2000 defense battled through a string of injuries that forced a total of five key starters to miss a combined 33 games. The Dallas pass defense once again landed near the top of league rankings, finishing third in the NFL (second in NFC), allowing just 168.3 passing yards-per-game.
Despite struggles early in the season, Zimmer's troops improved to finish the season ranked 19th in the NFL (ninth in NFC) in total defense, allowing 333.1 yards-per-game. "
But whatever, If you what to string the guy up, Here's some rope. I guess I don't really care, he's a "dog killing" Falcon now anyway.
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cleverusername;1523410 said:
It's not just your opinion. It's a verifiable fact that Zimmer was a decent coach for us for many years. The NFL is too competitive for a coach to get consitently promoted all the way to DC, run a decent defense for many years with sometimes questionable talent, field the statistically #1 ranked defense in the league, and eventually land the same position with another team after his tenure here ended without being better than decent.
Thumper, you need to check your zipper. Your agenda is showing again and nobody's impressed.
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cml750;1523858 said:
I agree 100%. Zimmer made it clear even before he left that there was near zero flexibility under BP when it came to running the defense. There is no doubt in my mind that Mike Zimmer was extremely limited in what he could do by Parcells' stubbonness. While Parcells did a good job of putting a group of very talented players together on defense, he had no idea what to do with them once he did. IMO Bill Parcells would still make an excellent GM. As far as coaching goes? The game has passed him by.
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My vote is Bill Parcells, and If I could've voted 50 times, it would've been the same person.
Parcells comes in, takes a team with Campos players on it, goes to the playoffs.
Puts the iron fist down, forces hurt players to play-- distances himself from the media and fans-- forces his staff to be mummies -- does all that talk, and took this franchise no where. Had great players staring him right in the face in a few drafts, passes on them. I think the Fasano pick will set this franchise back atleast 2 to 3 years.
Starts with the owner/head coach/ quarterback, and then on from there.
Parcells comes in, takes a team with Campos players on it, goes to the playoffs.
Puts the iron fist down, forces hurt players to play-- distances himself from the media and fans-- forces his staff to be mummies -- does all that talk, and took this franchise no where. Had great players staring him right in the face in a few drafts, passes on them. I think the Fasano pick will set this franchise back atleast 2 to 3 years.
Starts with the owner/head coach/ quarterback, and then on from there.
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cml750;1524010 said:
Really? Name one...I won't hold my breath. Only simps that think he was the WORST pick.
The reality is that its the BP/ND haters on here that simply can't comprehend the fact that we were attempting to utilize a two TE set in '07. Having Hannam sure as hell didn't do much for us. At the time it was a need. I can't believe I'm even going over this again.
...and yes, IMO, (at the time) it was a good pick. While he still needs some blocking work, the guy is an outstanding recieving TE. The guy played OK for a rookie. I find it funny how everyone screams how we don't have depth in a position, and when we finally get some....you still ***** and moan. God forbid Witten should ever go down, but Fasano would become pretty damn important then wouldn't he.? I mean, we could always throw Tony Curtis back there, he's got all of what....10 catches in NFLE? You people need to get over your agendas.
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That logic's untouchable. Well, maybe not.tomson75;1524161 said:
QUINCYYYYYYY!