Who Are You Happiest Is Gone From the 2006 Team

[Hostile]

I don't get it.

I've been avoiding that thread. Is my logic comparable to that of quicyyyyy's?

No, the other guy's is.

 

[DallasEast]

No, the other guy's is.

Hos is right. Sorry about that tomson. :

 

[Zaxor]

Zax didn't pick Bledsoe either?

My whole world is caving in. First Mike Winicki didn't pick him, now Zax. Where's LTN?

LOL:laugh1:

I picked the guy who would actually rather play Bledsoe at QB than using him in his proper role as a Garden Gnome

 

[JackMagist]

Without a doubt it has to be Big Bill. After 4 straight December slides it was obvious that his style of coaching wore very thin on the players by the end of the season. December is when you should be peaking for a playoff run. BP did upgrade the talent but made as many bad choices as good ones. It could however be argued that anyone could have upgraded the talent as our team had just came out of salary cap hell and had some good draft choices. For every Newman, Ware, and Witten he chose he also chose A. Johnson, J. Rogers, S. Peterman, and (Rivera, Wiley, and M.Vanderjacht [sp?]) through free agency. Our roster is better than when he got here but he missed on several players too. As for as Romo goes I give all the credit for him to the Saints coach. I think he should have started way before he did. Vinny and Bledsoe should never have been used as starters. If Romo had started the last two years the experience he would have gained would really help next year. BP held him back too long while forcing Bledsoe as the starter. I also could not stand another season of "playing not to lose" instead of going for the jugular. The ultra conservative approach sucks.

 

[Zaxor]

Without a doubt it has to be Big Bill. After 4 straight December slides it was obvious that his style of coaching wore very thin on the players by the end of the season. December is when you should be peaking for a playoff run. BP did upgrade the talent but made as many bad choices as good ones. It could however be argued that anyone could have upgraded the talent as our team had just came out of salary cap hell and had some good draft choices. For every Newman, Ware, and Witten he chose he also chose A. Johnson, J. Rogers, S. Peterman, and (Rivera, Wiley, and M.Vanderjacht [sp?]) through free agency. Our roster is better than when he got here but he missed on several players too. As for as Romo goes I give all the credit for him to the Saints coach. I think he should have started way before he did. Vinny and Bledsoe should never have been used as starters. If Romo had started the last two years the experience he would have gained would really help next year. BP held him back too long while forcing Bledsoe as the starter. I also could not stand another season of "playing not to lose" instead of going for the jugular. The ultra conservative approach sucks.

I missed this post...had it not been for someone quoting it (thank you somebody)... I might have missed the literary genius of the author...

 

[cml750]

Really? Name one...I won't hold my breath. Only simps that think he was the WORST pick.

The reality is that its the BP/ND haters on here that simply can't comprehend the fact that we were attempting to utilize a two TE set in '07. Having Hannam sure as hell didn't do much for us. At the time it was a need. I can't believe I'm even going over this again.

...and yes, IMO, (at the time) it was a good pick. While he still needs some blocking work, the guy is an outstanding recieving TE. The guy played OK for a rookie. I find it funny how everyone screams how we don't have depth in a position, and when we finally get some....you still ***** and moan. God forbid Witten should ever go down, but Fasano would become pretty damn important then wouldn't he.? I mean, we could always throw Tony Curtis back there, he's got all of what....10 catches in NFLE? You people need to get over your agendas.

Check out this thread.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88278

I have nothing against Fasano or ND personally. He is a good tight end. The problem is we drafted him to run a 2 tight end set that we hardly ever used. This team had too many holes to do that. We really needed a FS or o-line help yet we spent a 2nd round pick on a position that we already had a young pro bowler. I think we were going to use the 2 tight end set to help protect Bledsoe who I feel should not have been starting to begin with. Heck I am just so happy BP is gone that I really do not care any more!!

 

[YosemiteSam]

As good as a guy as he is, I picked Rivera. I think replacing him will be a huge upgrade.

Vandy, also glad he is gone but didn't pick him because its just too easy.

I agree with Rivera (and was my pick) He stunk it up last year and since he ended up with the same injury again. It was time to part ways.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Bill Parcells
Mike Zimmer
Drew Bledsoe
Al Singleton
Marco Rivera
Mike Vanderjagt
Al Johnson
Tony Parrish

Each and EVERYONE that you listed were chinks in our ARMOUR....

Its too bad... I wanted these guys to work out for us and DELIVER and they DIDNT

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Without a doubt it has to be Big Bill. After 4 straight December slides it was obvious that his style of coaching wore very thin on the players by the end of the season. December is when you should be peaking for a playoff run. BP did upgrade the talent but made as many bad choices as good ones. It could however be argued that anyone could have upgraded the talent as our team had just came out of salary cap hell and had some good draft choices. For every Newman, Ware, and Witten he chose he also chose A. Johnson, J. Rogers, S. Peterman, and (Rivera, Wiley, and M.Vanderjacht [sp?]) through free agency. Our roster is better than when he got here but he missed on several players too. As for as Romo goes I give all the credit for him to the Saints coach. I think he should have started way before he did. Vinny and Bledsoe should never have been used as starters. If Romo had started the last two years the experience he would have gained would really help next year. BP held him back too long while forcing Bledsoe as the starter. I also could not stand another season of "playing not to lose" instead of going for the jugular. The ultra conservative approach sucks.

As easy as it would be to "go there" on Bill.... I really cant.

"Players play" and execute... and when they dont... you dont score.... you dont win. THATS what happened.

 

[cml750]

As easy as it would be to "go there" on Bill.... I really cant.

"Players play" and execute... and when they dont... you dont score.... you dont win. THATS what happened.

And coaches MOTIVATE!!! This is where Big Bill was sorely lacking. All of his motivation was based on fear and intimidation. This type of motivation is very effective short term but gradually loses it effectiveness. By the end of the season it was obvious that he "lost" his players. Four straight December slides is proof of this.

 

[superpunk]

As easy as it would be to "go there" on Bill.... I really cant.

"Players play" and execute... and when they dont... you dont score.... you dont win. THATS what happened.

Now there is some true insight. The only change I'd make is that we were actually scoring, we just couldn't stop the other team from scoring - oh....like every other December for the last decade.

But Bill's gone. That changes everything. Check this quote from Terrence Newman:

We really just felt oppressed by Coach Parcells. I mean, I know, I know he's a great coach and all, but a team can only take so many stories about Giants' players, you know? After a while, we were all like - "Fine. You want to talk Giants? We'll see who's talking Giants when we *expletive* the bed every *expletive*ing December. Yeah, Fat Man....chew on that!"

So that's pretty much where we were. We've learned alot from Greg Ellis.

Free at last.

 

[cleverusername]

As easy as it would be to "go there" on Bill.... I really cant.

"Players play" and execute... and when they dont... you dont score.... you dont win. THATS what happened.

Yep, as much as some of the guys want to put the blame on Parcells, he wasn't the one on the field. This team was 2-4 plays away from being a great team.

Making it to the Superbowl takes more than a good team and good coaches (there's a few of those). I think it takes a little luck, and the desire to dig down deap.

I didn't see either from this team last year. I don't blame Parcells either, even though there are things he could have done different. He definitly did more good for this team than bad.

 

[cleverusername]

And coaches MOTIVATE!!! This is where Big Bill was sorely lacking. All of his motivation was based on fear and intimidation. This type of motivation is very effective short term but gradually loses it effectiveness. By the end of the season it was obvious that he "lost" his players. Four straight December slides is proof of this.

I understand where your coming from completely, but those old school tactics were trying to instill discipline onto a team that had a severe lack.

Now, I know a lot of players may not like it, but many do respond to it. Tom Landry was no softy, Lombardi had some success, and Bill's friend Bob Knight makes him look like a players coach.

Don't get me wrong, Bill had his faults, and we all do. But, when a team starts giving up at the end of a season, and lacks motivation in the playoffs, that is a sure sign that the players don't have a "desire to win".

That was what was so great about our SB teams of the ninety's. They seemed to get better during those times, and I don't think it was because Jimmy is that much of a better motivator than Bill. They had emotional leaders and a lot of guys with a intense passion to win.

It would be awesome if a few emotional leaders would step up this year on the team, and I'm very optimistic they will.

:mchammer:

 

[Hostile]

I knew Parcells and Zimmer would lead this poll with a wide gap to 3rd place. I did think it wouldn't be as close as it is between 1st and 2nd though. I also knew Bledsoe and Vanderjagt would be 3rd and 4th. I thought it would be flip flopped though.

 

[iceberg]

Someone get the smelling salts. I was sure Mike Winicki would pick Bledsoe.

The world is spinning. I think I may faint.

i was "torn" between parcells and bledsoe but if parcells is gone, bledsoe was a given, so ... i picked bp.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I picked Tony Parrish for two reasons...

1. Good or bad the other names at least contributed something more than a play or two. Parrish...what did he really do good or bad. He made two total tackles.

2. To be a difficult or just be different. I think I had enough the last few years of hearing complaints (justified or not) on Zimmer, Bill, Bledsoe or any others. At the very least they contributed to team in some ways.

 

[GlitzCowboy]

I meant, other. Terry Glenn is gone, right? Well when he shows up this year, yall let me know Until then I'm glad he's gone and nowhere to be found around Valley Ranch in 2007.

And yea, I don't mean to just collect his checks either, cause apparently where alot of you are concerned, that's all the work he needs to do.

 

[dalboy]

who wouldn't be glad when vanderjack left when he left which caused us to get a gramatica who got us a win.

 

[cml750]

I understand where your coming from completely, but those old school tactics were trying to instill discipline onto a team that had a severe lack.

Now, I know a lot of players may not like it, but many do respond to it. Tom Landry was no softy, Lombardi had some success, and Bill's friend Bob Knight makes him look like a players coach.

Don't get me wrong, Bill had his faults, and we all do. But, when a team starts giving up at the end of a season, and lacks motivation in the playoffs, that is a sure sign that the players don't have a "desire to win".

That was what was so great about our SB teams of the ninety's. They seemed to get better during those times, and I don't think it was because Jimmy is that much of a better motivator than Bill. They had emotional leaders and a lot of guys with a intense passion to win.

It would be awesome if a few emotional leaders would step up this year on the team, and I'm very optimistic they will.

:mchammer:

When a team does a tail spin for 4 years in row while turning the roster over as much as the boys did(meaning there were very few players from the year 1 team on the year 4 team), then it has to be on the coach. Jimmy would not let a team slide in December for 4 years in a row. Some people have a hard time accepting that Big Bill was not all that when it comes to motivation. The results speak for themselves. His abrasive style wore very thin on the players. If they slowly got better throughout the season and peaked in December then you could say the opposite and give Big Bill credit for having his team motivated and ready to play. As the coach and undisputed head honcho it was Bill's responsibility to have his team motivated and prepared each week. EVERY December he was here we went into a tail spin. He simply lost the team. Whether Wade is the right coach or not remains to be seen but it was painfully obvious that Big Bill was not the right coach. He failed with the Cowboys. Oh, if you want to blame it all on the players just remember who bought the groceries!

 

[Vintage]

When a team does a tail spin for 4 years in row while turning the roster over as much as the boys did(meaning there were very few players from the year 1 team on the year 4 team), then it has to be on the coach. Jimmy would not let a team slide in December for 4 years in a row. Some people have a hard time accepting that Big Bill was not all that when it comes to motivation. The results speak for themselves. His abrasive style wore very thin on the players. If they slowly got better throughout the season and peaked in December then you could say the opposite and give Big Bill credit for having his team motivated and ready to play. As the coach and undisputed head honcho it was Bill's responsibility to have his team motivated and prepared each week. EVERY December he was here we went into a tail spin. He simply lost the team. Whether Wade is the right coach or not remains to be seen but it was painfully obvious that Big Bill was not the right coach. He failed with the Cowboys.

These aren't kids. These are grown men.

If they can't find the motivation to close out a season in hopes of locking up HFA and making a deep playoff run, then frankly, I don't want them on the roster.