Who feels players are starting to make too much money

[Kangaroo]

Then by this reasoning a a military servicemember should be making millions of dollars a year.

Sure do not join the military and become an actor or sports star or How about go to college and Marry into a rich family. Do like some use it as a stepping stone to a better job and career.

The only thing limiting people in this country are themselves

(just for the record I enlisted at the age of 17)

 

[mmillman]

I don't have a problem with the veterans making so much money, although I don't like free agency from a fan standpoint. The rookies should have some kind of pay scale. They are making huge amounts and haven't done a thing at the pro level with a high failure rate (see Dallas' history of #1's)

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't have a problem with the veterans making so much money, although I don't like free agency from a fan standpoint. The rookies should have some kind of pay scale. They are making huge amounts and haven't done a thing at the pro level with a high failure rate (see Dallas' history of #1's)

I agree and think rookie contracts are something that has to change. Seeing guys pull down these large contracts that have not proven anything is insane. The failure rates is very high and even many who do make it never live up to the hype

 

[iceberg]

These contract signing's are sick. A scrub is making what Troy Aikman's monster contract was in the 90s. This is what ruins sports. It happened in baseball, basketball, and hockey that lead them all to work stoppages. I always thought football was the best with the early cap. The good players got paid and the scrubs got minmums. That Kelly guy from then Raiders, he would of got probably only a million bucks a year in the mid 90's. I hope the NFL isnt going down that path like other sports. I have a solution.

No player can make more than 8 million per season[includes bonuses] and can only have one of them on your roster. Fair. No player can make less than 700 k a year. The cap is at 70 million and doesnt move. On the other end, the owners can only make so much money as well, like a 50-50 split between owners and players. Then, the rest of it goes to the retirement of these players and charity. Only in a perfect world.

i said years ago it's going to pay per view and if salaries and so forth escalate to the point where a family of 4 can't even take their kids to the game w/o taking out a loan, they're in deep doo doo.

we've got time still, but the current path isn't conducive to long term happiness and sooner or later the money train is going to end and the SHOW ME THE MONEY players are gonna go ballistic.

 

[es22]

the players should get as much as they can. it is a free market system. also, they do suffer with itheir health later in life due to playing the game. If the NBA is any indication, half the players lose all their $$ 5 years after they end their career.

 

[rlgiv]

If they lose their money their just being stupid and should not recieve more just because they can't manage it.

I bet if we where talking gasoline people would be thinking a little diffrent.

 

[braw]

WOW just WOW. Some of you are complaining about player's salaries. First look at the proportion of how much a player makes compared to his owner or team. The cap is over $100 million dollars. The salaries are around 9-1 million/ year.

The NFL has 9 or more billionaires. The NFL is a private company, which means they do not sell stock, so the public can not see their financials. Lets see most all networks who carry the NFL games paid well over a billion dollars( FOX, NBC, CBS, ESPN, and DTV) thats 5 billion at the very least. Now the NFL is fighting Time Warner for another billion dollars for NFL Network. Plus all the money the NFL will make in ad revenue on their network.

When a buyer wants to buy an NFL franchise the buyer has to pay around 600 million before he pays for the team. Now the owner's share the revenues with each other.

So when you see a QB get paid 80 million for 8 yrs, they won't get all 80 million.

So what you all want is for the player to make lets say $100,000/yr that way the good ol owners can all be multi billionaires( all 32 owners). You guys think the players up tickets prices. Supply and Demand folks simple economics. The demand for the product ups the price someone is willing to pay. So you pay more, the players get less, and the owners get more. No matter how you look at it prices will continue to go up and how its divided will be done by the owners. Because its the one with power that determines the rule.

In the equation of NFL money the fan is at the bottom, the player is next,the retailers(tickets and merchandise),the Networks are next, then the owners.

 

[notherbob]

The players are getting what they're getting because of TV revenues and the money spent by fans willingly paying excessively high prices for game tickets, beer in plastic cups, parking. souveniers, team merchandise, etc. We the people are the ultimate cause; if people would quit paying those high prices the revenue flows would diminish and the teams would do things differently. But as long as we are eagerly paying those high prices, then we are funding the madness.

If you want to see the cause of the problem, if it's really a problem, go look in a mirror. It's not really a problem, just a symptom of the way things are. If we change the way things are, the "problem" will adjust itself but as long as we continue to pay the prices, the situation will remain about the same, just escalating with inflation.

The comic strip philosopher, Pogo, once said "I have met the enemy and it is us."

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Nope, I don't. It's their jobs, it's what they do for a living, and just like anyone else working for a living they're entitled to go out and get all the money they can for their services.

People who honestly hate on it only do so cause they aren't able to go out and ask for that kind of cash. I'd be willing to bet that each and every person on these forums that works for a living wouldn't hesitate for a second to demand 25 million dollars over 3 years from their employers if it were possible. if that was the going rate for what you did for a living you'd want it too.

 

[speedkilz88]

the players are the product. Nobody ever spent a nickle to watch, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, or Al Davis run into each other.

Actually the fans root for the laundry, do you really think you would root for the same players if they were the Fort Worth Galaxy and had black and blue jerseys?

 

[gazmc_06]

I don't think so, Football is a billion dollar business, the players that make it that should get millions. The only thing that should change IMO is rookie contracts, I don't think they should get anywhere near that money with their first deal.

Football players are actually under-paid compared toNBA players IMO.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Actually the fans root for the laundry, do you really think you would root for the same players if they were the Fort Worth Galaxy and had black and blue jerseys?

you would if that was the name of the professional football team in the NFL there.

 

[speedkilz88]

you would if that was the name of the professional football team in the NFL there.

No I wouldn't.

 

[theebs]

These contract signing's are sick. A scrub is making what Troy Aikman's monster contract was in the 90s. This is what ruins sports. It happened in baseball, basketball, and hockey that lead them all to work stoppages. I always thought football was the best with the early cap. The good players got paid and the scrubs got minmums. That Kelly guy from then Raiders, he would of got probably only a million bucks a year in the mid 90's. I hope the NFL isnt going down that path like other sports. I have a solution.


No player can make more than 8 million per season[includes bonuses] and can only have one of them on your roster. Fair. No player can make less than 700 k a year. The cap is at 70 million and doesnt move. On the other end, the owners can only make so much money as well, like a 50-50 split between owners and players. Then, the rest of it goes to the retirement of these players and charity. Only in a perfect world.

I am curious do you feel the Owners make too much money?

and so you know some teams had to spend some cash to be at the minimum, you cant just run your team with 50 million dollars of cap space and not use it. Thats what happens in baseball. Places like Tampa, Florida, Texas the owners spend just enough to not get into trouble and then rake in a ton in profits while their teams stink up the joint year in and year out.

 

[iceberg]

The players are getting what they're getting because of TV revenues and the money spent by fans willingly paying excessively high prices for game tickets, beer in plastic cups, parking. souveniers, team merchandise, etc. We the people are the ultimate cause; if people would quit paying those high prices the revenue flows would diminish and the teams would do things differently. But as long as we are eagerly paying those high prices, then we are funding the madness.

If you want to see the cause of the problem, if it's really a problem, go look in a mirror. It's not really a problem, just a symptom of the way things are. If we change the way things are, the "problem" will adjust itself but as long as we continue to pay the prices, the situation will remain about the same, just escalating with inflation.

The comic strip philosopher, Pogo, once said "I have met the enemy and it is us."

yep. and there's going to come a time they out price themsleves from the very market they're making millions to billions off of now.

i don't begrudge *anyone* for making what they can. have at it. my point isn't that they shouldn't be paid, my point is their salaries are going up higher than people can keep paying for. those coming in now will want those huge paydays as a measure of success in the league.

what will happen when the revenue is maxed out? can you explain to someone singing a $100 mil contract why they can't have $120mil next time? kind of a strange convo, to be sure. HOWEVER, given human nature that's where we're headed.

impossible? ask hockey.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

No I wouldn't.

If that was all that changed, tomorrow, was they weren't the Dallas Cowboys but they were whatever name it was he came up with you'd suddenly pick another team or wouldn't watch football?

I doubt that, very much.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

the players are the product. Nobody ever spent a nickle to watch, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, or Al Davis run into each other.

True.


But I would

My money is on Jerry... although being that Danny is shorter... you gotta be wary of that low center of gravity

 

[speedkilz88]

If that was all that changed, tomorrow, was they weren't the Dallas Cowboys but they were whatever name it was he came up with you'd suddenly pick another team or wouldn't watch football?

I doubt that, very much.

I'm not from the metroplex, so I could root for other laundry under different circumstances. But let me clarify, the Dallas Cowboys still exist in this scenario, but they suck with Drew Bledsoe as QB, the same players on the team as you know it are on the Ft. Worth Galaxy or the Washington Commanders, it doesn't really matter. Who you going to root for?

 

[iceberg]

I don't think so, Football is a billion dollar business, the players that make it that should get millions. The only thing that should change IMO is rookie contracts, I don't think they should get anywhere near that money with their first deal.

Football players are actually under-paid compared toNBA players IMO.

really? how much do they make per game? there's a lot more revune opportunities in baseball and basketball by sheer numbers.

don't know the answer, just curious.

 

[iceberg]

Whatever players can make is what they deserve.

This is a big business and players are the ones who are what everyone pays to see.

the players are the product. Nobody ever spent a nickle to watch, Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, or Al Davis run into each other.

so when you can find a player who can manage a $100+ million dollar payroll, handle legal and government issues, promote the stadium and team in general, and lobby for new funds from the city of their choice ALL WHILE taking a snap and throwing/catching/running for a TD or simply "running into each other" then great.

till then all pieces are required.