Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

[Bob Sacamano]

Laying a big hit has a lot to do with position, and if Taylor is in better position more often, then you could say that Taylor IS the better hitter.

I thought it was who was the bigger hitter? thanks for changing the criteria up, and because Roy is scrutinized so much, you hear a little snippet about him being out of position at times, or blowing coverage assignments, hell, if Sean Taylor was as scrutinized, we'd have lots of his weaknesses to talk about too, even though we don't need to, all we need is game-tape and they show that ST makes as many, if not more mistakes than Roy does

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Check out his tackle on Jeff Garcia in that video too. That's blowing someone up. Again, rookie year.

what about Roy piledriving Pat Ramsey, is that in the video? sorry, too lazy to look at it

 

[Hostile]

what about Roy piledriving Pat Ramsey, is that in the video? sorry, too lazy to look at it

You need to watch that video. It's football and it's only 3 minutes of terror.

 

[Bizwah]

Or we can ask Terry Glenn or Randy Moss. Hell, ask TO. Yes, Roy Williams broke his leg, but that wasn't because it was a monster hit. It was because it was a horse-collar tackle. In all fairness, it wasn't illegal at the time, but the point being it wasn't a hard tackle. Just ackward. You can ask the Cards RB too, he ducked (on 4th and 2 with the game on the line no less) avoid a Taylor hit as opposed to fight for the yards and the game.
Or let's turn it around, and ask Santana Moss. Has Roy ever been close enough to hit Santana?

Has Taylor ever hit Glenn?

Taylor can hit hard....but no one hits like Roy. Ask Ronnie Lott (a source better than you or I), he said that Roy is better than Taylor.

 

[Hostile]

This isn't a devestating hit as far as leaving an opponent woozy. But this is my opinion of impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyj3C47CTIs&search=roy%20williams

2:23 of the video.

Airborn chaos.

 

[Bizwah]

Look... Sean Taylor is a very good safety. To be honest (and let you know that I am being honest) I think Taylor is better in coverage than Roy. He should be, he's a FS and Roy is a SS. However, the question of who hits harder is only a valid question in the minds of Commander fans. Everyone else knows that Roy hits harder.

Saying Roy drags down from behind is just a stupid statement. Yes he has pulled players down from behind... so has Taylor and every other safety in the NFL. Roy has had plenty of head on hits too though. Just watch the Boom highlight video that was made about Roy... he blows people up. It's silly to think that because he has pulled down from behind that it means that he doesn't hit hard. One has nothing to do with the other. What do you want Roy to do? When he finds himself trailing the ballcarrier, just let him go because he can't get the killshot from behind? Pffffft. Silly.

I've seen Roy level ballcarriers. I've seen Roy level blockers. I've seen Roy level returners. If you haven't seen the head on hits... you must not be looking too hard. He hit Emmitt so hard on his shoulder pads that he broke his shoulder blade. Emmitt said it was one of the hardest hits he's ever taken... and he's taken a lot. He gave Shawn Alexander a concussion just knocking him out of bounds. He almost knocked Deuce Staley out. He damn near killed a San Francisco kickoff returner in his rookie season. He butted heads with Marshall Faulk and Faulk just dropped the ball. No one touched the ball or really any part of his body except for his helment... but the hit was so hard, Faulk just went limp. I could go on and on. Roy scares people and Commander fans love to focus on the fact that he pulls down from behind... like everyone else playing defense does from time to time. Funny really.

Commander fans feel compelled to compare Roy and Sean and want Sean to be better in every aspect. He isn't. He's better in coverage and Roy hits harder.

Sean got absolutely steamrolled by Greg Jones while he was in college... just ran the F*** over. You must not have seen it or you wouldn't be saying anything about Roy pulling down from behind.

They both hit hard... Roy hit harder. They both can cover... Sean covers better. They're both good safeties, so let it go.

I guess Dick "Night Train" Lane isn't as good as Taylor either. I mean this Hall of Famer had to clothesline people to tackle them.

 

[DGreenFan87]

So please see Roy's hit on Sean Alexander at about 1:30 of the video. Note that Sean is running forward. Look where he lands from the point of impact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezFgHGSLhyY&search=roy%20williams

i'll be the first to admit that RW lays it on pretty hard from watching that video. although i said that i thought ST was the harder hitter, i'm mature enough to be corrected. although many on this board find it necessary to place taylor into the pit of mediocrity, i still think he is a great hitter and if he picked up his technique when hitting he would be a greater hitter. take that as you want to, but RW definitely has the better technique and more experience that ST as a hitter.

you win this time, but we'll meet again!

 

[Hostile]

i'll be the first to admit that RW lays it on pretty hard from watching that video. although i said that i thought ST was the harder hitter, i'm mature enough to be corrected. although many on this board find it necessary to place taylor into the pit of mediocrity, i still think he is a great hitter and if he picked up his technique when hitting he would be a greater hitter. take that as you want to, but RW definitely has the better technique and more experience that ST as a hitter.

you win this time, but we'll meet again!

Sean Taylor is a good football player who can be great. It's there for him. I don't like him, but I admire talent. He has lots of it. I hope he gets his act straight.

 

[5Stars]

I thought it was who was the bigger hitter? thanks for changing the criteria up, and because Roy is scrutinized so much, you hear a little snippet about him being out of position at times, or blowing coverage assignments, hell, if Sean Taylor was as scrutinized, we'd have lots of his weaknesses to talk about too, even though we don't need to, all we need is game-tape and they show that ST makes as many, if not more mistakes than Roy does

See, the thing is...Cowboy fans can critcize the Cowboy players ...talk about the QB, the Oline...T.O., and try to understand the coach, JJ, and the Cheerleaders...whatever...

But, a RedStink? NOPE! Everyone on their team is the bestest of the bestest, or even BETTER then the bestest!

That's what fools are made of...

:dissskin:

 

[Hostile]

This is a great hit and it's clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQMZhEvt_1Y&search=roy williams

That's gonna leave a mark.

 

[Bizwah]

i'll be the first to admit that RW lays it on pretty hard from watching that video. although i said that i thought ST was the harder hitter, i'm mature enough to be corrected. although many on this board find it necessary to place taylor into the pit of mediocrity, i still think he is a great hitter and if he picked up his technique when hitting he would be a greater hitter. take that as you want to, but RW definitely has the better technique and more experience that ST as a hitter.

you win this time, but we'll meet again!

I don't think any rational football fan will say that Taylor is mediocre. But this yayhoo that started the thread was picking a fight. We're simply putting him in his place.

 

[Hostile]

I don't think any rational football fan will say that Taylor is mediocre. But this yayhoo that started the thread was picking a fight. We're simply putting him in his place.

Don't blame us for protecting our turf.

 

[Vintage]

See, the thing is...Cowboy fans can critcize the Cowboy players ...talk about the QB, the Oline...T.O., and try to understand the coach, JJ, and the Cheerleaders...whatever...

But, a RedStink? NOPE! Everyone on their team is the bestest of the bestest, or even BETTER then the bestest!

That's what fools are made of...

:dissskin:

C'mon now. Fair is fair.

Newman has already been inducted into the Hall of Fame by the way it certainly sounds at times around here.

Both teams have homers. Both teams have intelligent fans. Both teams have their idiots.

Sean Taylor hits well.

Roy hits harder.

JMO. Its not a knock on Taylor at all. Just more of a "wow" factor compliment towards Roy.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't think anyone said Taylor is mediocre as a football player, just not on Roy's level in terms of hitting, which was supposed to be the basis of this thread

 

[DGreenFan87]

Sean Taylor is a good football player who can be great. It's there for him. I don't like him, but I admire talent. He has lots of it. I hope he gets his act straight.

I don't think any rational football fan will say that Taylor is mediocre.

Its not a knock on Taylor at all. Just more of a "wow" factor compliment towards Roy.

I don't think anyone said Taylor is mediocre as a football player, just not on Roy's level in terms of hitting.

understood guys. as long as ST is known as being a good player with a lot of potential then im happy. i guess i just took your words defending RW as calling ST bad. of course every fan has to defend the players of it's team (with the exception of TO : ).

 

[Bizwah]

understood guys. as long as ST is known as being a good player with a lot of potential then im happy. i guess i just took your words defending RW as calling ST bad. of course every fan has to defend the players of it's team (with the exception of TO : ).

Not a problem.

This gooberhead Redskin1 continually tries to start fights. He's always accusing us of being homers, yet he's one of the worst ones on the board.

We may go a little overboard defending our guy, but you'd do the same thing on a Skins board.

 

[Jay9508]

sean taylor or roy williams who hits the hardest..its close,but i have to lean towards sean taylor...reason being roy grabs from behind alot and he gets big hits on people who are not ready to protect themselves,sean has more head to head were the other guy is squared up and sean goes head to head and knocks the runner backwards,i think sean comes with more force..how do you see it?

You said Roy can't tackle hard when he go heads up with runningbacks/recievers. Didn't he destroy Shaun Alexander, when they went heads up?

 

[TEK2000]

Ok let me start of by saying both players ARE good hitters.

I have 6 Sean Taylor videos (granted most of these videos all have the same footage in them) and a crap load of Roy Williams footage to draw reference from (see the video linked in my sig as testament to this).

In my opinion, Sean Taylor is a good hitter but one thing he seems to lack is the ability to take people clean off their feet when making a head to head hit (WHERE THE BALL CARRIER SEES IT COMING). As some have stated, its not THAT difficult to get a big hit on a reciever focused on the ball and not knowing that the defender is coming... its another thing to be able to blow people up that see the defender coming at them.

Now, the difference in hitting of these 2 GOOD football players is thes ability to take players on head on and absolutely destroy the other player. In my opinion, Roy Williams sets himself apart by being able to do this.

Lets break down some highlight footage:
We'll take a look at this particular video for our Sean Taylor reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AQYRPW3fTQ

And we'll look at the Roy Williams - Tear It Up video for our RW reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx6AVkihYi8
(good quality version available for download.. see my sig)

The ST video shows some good hits but I don't recognize hits where he takes a player on head to head and is able to CLEANLY take them straight off their feet. For example: The hit on the Broncos running back that made it on Jacked Up... he collides with the RB but then has to drive his feet further to get him to the ground. Its a perfect form tackle but not a devestating hit. This is the type of hit that I see him NORMALLY make on his big hits.
Although, to give credit where its due.. Taylor does have a hit he makes on (I think) Westbrook of the Eagles where he does take him off his feet... but that's the only one I remember seeing. (A side note: the play where ST goes over the top of Randy Moss and barely misses the interception is not really a highlight at all. If Kerry Collins doesn't throw that ball EXTREMELY SHORT where Moss literally has to STOP to try to catch the ball... that's a TD and its a highlight for Moss rather than ST)

The RW video shows Roy trying to be blocked by Todd Pinkston and Pinkston winds up on the ground (yeah... Pinkston is routinely his *****). Shaun Alexander is taken clean off his feet. The 49er return man is DESTROYED and the Carolina return man is sent flying backward into Bradie James.

Not in the video:
Kevin Jones' attempt to block the blitzing Roy:

Ashley Lelie is out of the game after trying to block Roy:

I would really like to see the footage that one of the Commanders fans listed earlier... claiming they had video of him laying hits on 6 or 8 players.
ALSO, I have yet to see a good hit on Terrell Owens by Sean Taylor. I've seen 2 and they were cheap shots.. 1 pushing him while he was out of bounds and the other with ST throwing his elbow into TO's face mask after the play was apparently over.

 

[dfense]

I've seen Taylor get beat and be out of position or fooled more times than I've seen him hit people.

 

[Ken]

i'll be the first to admit that RW lays it on pretty hard from watching that video. although i said that i thought ST was the harder hitter, i'm mature enough to be corrected. although many on this board find it necessary to place taylor into the pit of mediocrity, i still think he is a great hitter and if he picked up his technique when hitting he would be a greater hitter. take that as you want to, but RW definitely has the better technique and more experience that ST as a hitter.

you win this time, but we'll meet again!

At least you can admit it.

It also is no slight to be an inferior hitter to Williams. Taylor is a very good hitter, just not better than Roy.