Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

yazzmode621 said:
Actually a lot of you guys(just read this entire thread) brag about that 'big hit' on TO...

I honestly looked at RW's video and ST's highlight video. Look at Taylor's highlights from both seasons, not just one. Then make a decision. I honestly think Taylor is the better hitter and player.

As for me posting Cowboys players better than their Commanders counterparts...
SS - RW
CB - Terrence Newman
OLB - DeMarcus Ware
DE - Marcus Spears
WR - TO
#2WR - Glenn
LG - Larry Allen...oops my mistake :)

Thats 6(could've been 7!) positions that I feel you guys are better. That 50% percent of the starting lineup. There is no way you could call me a homer. I just call it as I see it.

CB Newman over Springs, but you take Rogers over Henry? Your #3 over glenn?

Spears over Carter? ok then Daniels over Canty?

Salvea over Ferg? seriosu?

Who over witten Cooley lol?

Brunell over Bledsoe? no

I mean damn man you were better not making a list lol
 
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yazzmode621 said:
Actually I'm doing fine. Thanks for your help though :)

Fine? define fine? because in this thread you are over your head, and embarassing the other Skins fans I am sure
 
BigDFan5 said:
CB Newman over Springs, but you take Rogers over Henry? Your #3 over glenn?

Spears over Carter? ok then Daniels over Canty?

Salvea over Ferg? seriosu?

Who over witten Cooley lol?

Brunell over Bledsoe? no

I mean damn man you were better not making a list lol

First of all, I'd like to congratulate you guys on you're maturity.

Second, I was comparing starters. Glenn is better than Kenny Wright but neither of them are starters.

Shawn Springs is our #1 and Anthony Henry is your #1. I'd take Springs over Henry any day. Henry is way over rated and gets beat deep routinely. Brandon Lloyd had like 150 receiving yards on him. And dont tell me that Newman is better than both of them because if he was so great, howcome he was always covering the opposing teams #2? Shutdown corner alright...Shutdown #2 WR corner!

Yes I'd take 35 yr old Brunell(who you guys like to call ancient) over 33 yr old statue you guys have any day. The Buffalo Bills cut Bledsoe with no proven starter to take his place. The Jaguars traded Brunell after they saw what top 10 overall pick Leftwich could do on the field.
They way you see it ALL the Cowboys players are better than the skins counterparts. I wonder how in the world we were able to beat you guys twice(stomping on you guys one time...)

I'd take Spears over Daniels but NOT over Carter. The last time Carter was healthy for a whole season and playing at DE(his natural position) he had 12.5 sacks.

Seeing as how you guys run the 3-4, you have ONE starting DT. Ferguson. Our #1 DT is Cornelius Griffin, who I'd take ANY DAY over Ferguson.

And yes I'd take Cooley over Witten also. They both have comparable stats but last year Cooley had significantly more TDs than him plus he's a better blocker. No, I'm not saying he's a great blocker but he's definitely better than Witten!

If RW, Henry and Newman are so great then how come you guys were getting toasted by WRs left and right? I mean, 3 ALL-World DBs and yet you guys kept getting burned left and right.
 
TEK2000 said:
Long post containg lots of words, links, and this rediculously awesome gif
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As a Commanders fan, obviously I am biased to some extent, but I came away from this post and watching the videos thinking the following things.

A) That gif hit is utter hilarity, rock on sir.

B) Anyone who thinks Taylor is a bigger hitter than Roy is delusional.

C) I think Sean may be a better athlete(speed, agility, etc) and has vast potential, I can only hope he will grow the **** up and use it.

D) Watching Gardner get the crap get knocked out of him is quite humorous

E) If both Roy and Sean make the Pro Bowl......does the middle of the field even get used?

F) Watching people getting the holy hell knocked out of them in both those videos was immensly entertaining.
 
yazzmode621 said:
Shawn Springs is our #1 and Anthony Henry is your #1.

nope, Newman is our #1, so Newman>>Springs, Henry>>>Rogers

yazzmode621 said:
Yes I'd take 35 yr old Brunell(who you guys like to call ancient) over 33 yr old statue you guys have any day. The Buffalo Bills cut Bledsoe with no proven starter to take his place. The Jaguars traded Brunell after they saw what top 10 overall pick Leftwich could do on the field.

uh, both Bledsoe and Brunell were jettisoned because both the Bills and Jags, respectively, spent a 1st on Losman and Leftwich

yazzmode621 said:
I'd take Spears over Daniels but NOT over Carter. The last time Carter was healthy for a whole season and playing at DE(his natural position) he had 12.5 sacks.

and yet playing at an easier position, rush OLB, where you're not head up on an OT 99% of the time like a DE, he had less sacks?

yazzmode621 said:
And yes I'd take Cooley over Witten also. They both have comparable stats but last year Cooley had significantly more TDs than him plus he's a better blocker. No, I'm not saying he's a great blocker but he's definitely better than Witten!

uh, Cooley had 1 more TD grab than Witten, significant, and had a lesser ypc average

yazzmode621 said:
If RW, Henry and Newman are so great then how come you guys were getting toasted by WRs left and right? I mean, 3 ALL-World DBs and yet you guys kept getting burned left and right.

uh, Adam, post Newman's season totals last year
 
Renesis said:
As a Commanders fan, obviously I am biased to some extent, but I came away from this post and watching the videos thinking the following things.

A) That gif hit is utter hilarity, rock on sir.

B) Anyone who thinks Taylor is a bigger hitter than Roy is delusional.

C) I think Sean may be a better athlete(speed, agility, etc) and has vast potential, I can only hope he will grow the **** up and use it.

D) Watching Gardner get the crap get knocked out of him is quite humorous

E) If both Roy and Sean make the Pro Bowl......does the middle of the field even get used?

F) Watching people getting the holy hell knocked out of them in both those videos was immensly entertaining.

I must say... very nice post!!! Both are great players!!
And I too still bust out laughing watching the Kevin Jones gif.
 
summerisfunner said:
nope, Newman is our #1, so Newman>>Springs, Henry>>>Rogers



uh, both Bledsoe and Brunell were jettisoned because both the Bills and Jags, respectively, spent a 1st on Losman and Leftwich



and yet playing at an easier position, rush OLB, where you're not head up on an OT 99% of the time like a DE, he had less sacks?



uh, Cooley had 1 more TD grab than Witten, significant, and had a lesser ypc average



uh, Adam, post Newman's season totals last year

If Newman is you guys' #1, then how come he was covering #2 WRs?

Brunell got injured in Jacksonville, forcing Leftwich, a top 10 pick, to play. They liked what they saw and therefore got rid of Brunell. The Buffalo Bills on the other hand, had a top 5 defense, and still didnt make the playoffs. J.P. Losman, although a first rounder, was not a top 10 pick and had never played a down in the NFL. They let a great QB go for that?

Being a down lineman and a stand up OLB are two completely different positions. You should know that.

I may have been wrong on the significant part but he did have one more TD, like 5 more catches and 20 more yards. He also is the better blocker between the two. So how is it funny that I chose him over Witten?
 
I was going to reply to the yazzz guy but he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

He says we got toasted left and right despite the fact that the Skins and Cowboys defensive stats are almost IDENTICAL for 2005.

EDIT: Now he asks why Newman was covering #2 WR's.... I guess Steve Smith is a #2 wide reciever for Carolina. :rolleyes: :confused: :lmao2:

Its either pure ignorance of the subject or a misinformation propaganda campaign the world has not seen since that of the *****.
 
yazzmode621 said:
If Newman is you guys' #1, then how come he was covering #2 WRs?

Brunell got injured in Jacksonville, forcing Leftwich, a top 10 pick, to play. They liked what they saw and therefore got rid of Brunell. The Buffalo Bills on the other hand, had a top 5 defense, and still didnt make the playoffs. J.P. Losman, although a first rounder, was not a top 10 pick and had never played a down in the NFL. They let a great QB go for that?

Being a down lineman and a stand up OLB are two completely different positions. You should know that.

I may have been wrong on the significant part but he did have one more TD, like 5 more catches and 20 more yards. He also is the better blocker between the two. So how is it funny that I chose him over Witten?
Newman played on the left side of the field. If the #2 WR lines up over there it's his assignment. Take a look at how many TDs he allowed in 2005.

Think Krispy Kreme for a hint.
 
yazzmode621 said:
If Newman is you guys' #1, then how come he was covering #2 WRs?

is Steve Smith a #2 WR?

yazzmode621 said:
Brunell got injured in Jacksonville, forcing Leftwich, a top 10 pick, to play. They liked what they saw and therefore got rid of Brunell.

they were going to get rid of Brunell the day they picked Leftwich, if you think otherwise, then you're a fool

yazzmode621 said:
The Buffalo Bills on the other hand, had a top 5 defense, and still didnt make the playoffs. J.P. Losman, although a first rounder, was not a top 10 pick and had never played a down in the NFL. They let a great QB go for that?

uh, they invested alot of money and 2 1sts on Losman, so yeah

yazzmode621 said:
Being a down lineman and a stand up OLB are two completely different positions. You should know that.

but boths primary responsibilities is to get after the QB

yazzmode621 said:
So how is it funny that I chose him over Witten?

cuz all he has on Witten is being a better blocker, although he's not great at it either, sorry, I'll take someone who had one of the finest seasons for a TE in HISTORY over an up and comer
 
TEK2000 said:
Its either pure ignorance of the subject or a misinformation propaganda campaign the world has not seen since that of the *****.

I say ignorance, he thinks 1 TD more is significant :laugh1:
 
Hostile said:
Newman played on the left side of the field. If the #2 WR lines up over there it's his assignment. Take a look at how many TDs he allowed in 2005.

Think Krispy Kreme for a hint.

Actually Santana Moss lined up on the right side when we were facing you guys but Brandon Lloyd was lined up on the left side when he had that big game against you guys.
 
TEK2000 said:
I was going to reply to the yazzz guy but he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.

He says we got toasted left and right despite the fact that the Skins and Cowboys defensive stats are almost IDENTICAL for 2005.

EDIT: Now he asks why Newman was covering #2 WR's.... I guess Steve Smith is a #2 wide reciever for Carolina. :rolleyes: :confused: :lmao2:

Its either pure ignorance of the subject or a misinformation propaganda campaign the world has not seen since that of the *****.

The lack of a casting support caught up to Steve Smith as he was double and triple teamed the entire game. If Newman is truely a shutdown corner, then why did he need help?
 
i don't think you hafta be a physics major to realize that roy will is the hardest hitting safety in the biz. i've seen him blow up alotta dudes in his career to this point.

but, by far, my fave example of roys' fondness for "contact" is when he picked off a pass in a cardinals game (the one where witten got his jaw busted) and roy was running the INT back just looking for cards to stick his helmet into.

roy's a bad man. way badder than sean taylor. start these guys at opposing 20's and have them run full speed at each other in a game of human chicken and i guaran-dang-tee ya taylor will pull up with a hammy or some other malfunction. ain't so much fear as common-durn-sense.

roy is a human cannonball. plain and simple. IMO, pound-for-pound, the NFLs top de-cleater.
 
yazzmode621 said:
The lack of a casting support caught up to Steve Smith as he was double and triple teamed the entire game. If Newman is truely a shutdown corner, then why did he need help?

Newman was on Smith one-on-one for most the time Smith was in the game
 

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