Who is the better pass rusher

[Nova]

Parsons’ best is better than Ware’s best.

But Ware didn’t wear down over the course of the year.

 

[plasticman]

You mean susceptible to misdirection also like Parsons last year wasn't that great against the RPO he was taking the wrong guy he was overly aggressive hopefully that gets fixed this year but we have not been in a game yeah a real tough matchup to where they're gonna test him with those RPO's and the misdirections don't act like Parsons was perfect last year there were games where he got man is out of the game they either went away from him or right at him with those RPO's and he did lose a lot of those battles last year... Dudes not a perfect player yet I know what he's got about 17 threads right now on the front page and I love Micah Parsons but the Marcus wears in the Hall of Fame so he's gonna get the nod right now because his longevity his career the fact that he left the Cowboys and went and got a ring he's got now the hardware and the stats.... If you want to make it a tie I can live with that but don't act like there is a huge gap right now because there's not.. I know humans live in the moment so right now we feel that way but people forget how good the mark is where it was but both of them like many players in the NFL will have droughts where they disappear or they get beat or they're off a little bit they're not playing all 17 games at this level we saw it last year this defense let us down last year and as much as people don't want to admit it Prescott and the offense had to prop it up...

I didn't forget Ware. There is not a huge gap but there are things that Parsons does that Ware didn't do.

Ware never dominated offenses in the way that Parsons is doing today. Ware had some great games and he had a bunch of sacks but his presence never actually took games over.

 

[kskboys]

Yeah people are way too quick to dismiss a guy who came within a whisker of two 20 sack seasons. I wasn't his fault that Romo kept throwing picks at the worst possible times to keep the team from winning. Especially that 2008 season when he had 20 sacks and TWENTY SEVEN tackles for loss. A statistic he led the league in 3 times in addition to leading in sacks twice and finishing second once. Ware got stuck on some snakebit teams so he didn't get to shine as much in big games and playoffs as he should have. Still he had 7.5 sacks in 8 playoff games.. Micah has one sack in his three playoff games.. Just sayin. Micah is on a much better constructed and better coached defense. I think if Parcells had stuck around a little longer Ware's career would have been even better. Micah's fun to watch for sure.. but so was Ware... The amount of attention he got from opposing offenses was borderline comical at times. But people get amnesia about his greatness because of the lack of playoff success in Dallas. Seemed like he did just fine in Denver even being past his prime.

Which is another glaring point. Micah is on a stacked D, Ware was pretty much by himself.

 

[kskboys]

DWare was a great player. But Parsons is on the Lawrence Taylor level. He's not limited to one area. He moves around and can attack from anywhere on the line. He's basically LT 2.0 on this team.

So was DWare.

 

[kskboys]

I didn't forget Ware. There is not a huge gap but there are things that Parsons does that Ware didn't do.

Ware never dominated offenses in the way that Parsons is doing today. Ware had some great games and he had a bunch of sacks but his presence never actually took games over.

Yes, Ware did. Ware didn't have near the help Parsons does, that's what you're missing in your evaluation. If team took Ware out of a game w/ chips and doubles and triples, no one made them pay. Micah has several to help him and keep the doubles to a min.

 

[nightrain]

The first two games have been so revealing as to why Quinn deploys Parsons on the LOS most of the game. OL can't handle his combination of speed, twerk and power without double teams. It's Parsons by a lot and not just compared to Ware.

 

[kskboys]

The first two games have been so revealing as to why Quinn deploys Parsons on the LOS most of the game. OL can't handle his combination of speed, twerk and power without double teams. It's Parsons by a lot and not just compared to Ware.

No, it's not. The disrespect for Ware on this site is absolutely amazing. Ware is a top 10 all time edge rusher. Parsons isn't yet, though it looks as if he will be.

 

[Whyjerry]

I was a huge fan of Demarcus Ware , when he was a cowboy. Now we have another great player in Micah Parsons . Who is the better player. Go Cowboys.

Good question. Ware was a great player. Parsons only has 2 years in. Ware maybe more consistent. That said when Parsons is on he is the most disruptive player I have seen in a Cowboys uniform.

 

[nightrain]

No, it's not. The disrespect for Ware on this site is absolutely amazing. Ware is a top 10 all time edge rusher. Parsons isn't yet, though it looks as if he will be.

Ware was a great player. Parsons is a generational talent and is on pace to be a best of all time candidate. People are already making the LT comparison. That's extremely high praise and has nothing to do with a lack of respect for other players. You and I have both been watching Cowboys football for a long time. No one ever consistently took over and wrecked games likes Parsons does on defense. He makes the entire unit better. That's what it is all about.

 

[Cowboyny]

I was a huge fan of Demarcus Ware , when he was a cowboy. Now we have another great player in Micah Parsons . Who is the better player. Go Cowboys.

In my opinion, Ware's sacks rarely came in big moments, but Parsons has.

 

[CWR]

.....Ware was VERY good player. Parsons is on different level.

We're seeing what generational talent looks like. I only saw few games with LT. So cant, comment much on him.

Just that, as people say. Game wrecker.

Completely agree. I loved Ware, but Parsons takes over games regularly. We just need him not to wear down so he is as impactful the second half of the season. He starts off at a ridiculously blistering pace though.

 

[CWR]

Ware was a great player. Parsons is a generational talent and is on pace to be a best of all time candidate. People are already making the LT comparison. That's extremely high praise and has nothing to do with a lack of respect for other players. You and I have both been watching Cowboys football for a long time. No one ever consistently took over and wrecked games likes Parsons does on defense. He makes the entire unit better. That's what it is all about.

Hes the guy you just pay whatever you have to pay to retire his jersey. It's like having a qb on defense. He's just that impactful on the entire unit and game as a whole.

I'd actually adjust gaming lines the same with him as I did qbs. It's pretty wild.

 

[plasticman]

Yes, Ware did. Ware didn't have near the help Parsons does, that's what you're missing in your evaluation. If team took Ware out of a game w/ chips and doubles and triples, no one made them pay. Micah has several to help him and keep the doubles to a min.

Nobody is disrespecting Ware when they claim Parsons is better, which he is.

First of all, it is blatantly unfair to use Ware's entire career in comparison to Parson's. You have no idea how Parson's will end and what he will achieve.

The only fair way to compare them is to look at Ware's first two seasons in the league compared to Parsons.

Ware made his first Pro Bowl in his 2nd season. He made his first selection as 1st team All Pro in his 3rd season. Parsons has made the Pro Bowl and 1st team All Pro in each of his first two seasons.

Ware was 4th place in voting for Defensive Rookie of the Year, which Parsons won.

In his first two seasons, Ware had 19.5 sacks, Parsons 26 sacks.

Ware 27 tackles for a loss in his first two seasons, Parsons 33.

Ware 106 solo tackles, Parsons 106.

QB hits were not recorded until Ware's 2nd season and he had 18, Parsons's 2nd season, had 26. He had 30 in his rookie season.

As far as all this help that you are referring to, Trevon Diggs is the only other Pro Bowler on defense, Ware had LaRoi Glover and Roy Williams

In every measurement, under every circumstance, Parsons was better in his first two seasons than Ware was in his first two seasons. I expect Parsons to widen the margin every season of his career.

That's not disrespect. It is candor.

 

[conner01]

Hard to compare a career to a few seasons
Rather compare careers when that’s possible

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Parsons’ best is better than Ware’s best.

But Ware didn’t wear down over the course of the year.

Was going to say this. Every year Parsons has played has been a 17 game season. And even in 17 games, 14 sacks is his holy grail. If Ware played in 17 games there’s an outside chance he owns the single season sack record.

Micah’s single game performance is better than Ware’s single game performance, but over the duration of entire seasons Ware was a machine.

Micah is still young though, we’re comparing 2.1 years to over a decade of dominance. Probably one day, but not quite yet (DMVP sure would help though)

 

[plasticman]

In his first two seasons Ware had more than one sack in a game twice, Parsons 9 times.

 

[Nova]

Was going to say this. Every year Parsons has played has been a 17 game season. And even in 17 games, 14 sacks is his holy grail. If Ware played in 17 games there’s an outside chance he owns the single season sack record.

Micah’s single game performance is better than Ware’s single game performance, but over the duration of entire seasons Ware was a machine.

Micah is still young though, we’re comparing 2.1 years to over a decade of dominance. Probably one day, but not quite yet (DMVP sure would help though)

Yup. It’s not much different than comparing Parsons to Bosa.

Bosa doesn’t really have the skins that Ware does (though Ware never captured DPOY), but if he keeps it up it’ll be a really similar career.

Bosa won DPOY last year because of the success at the end of the year, despite having a relatively slow start.

 

[Runwildboys]

Ware was a great player. Parsons is a generational talent and is on pace to be a best of all time candidate. People are already making the LT comparison. That's extremely high praise and has nothing to do with a lack of respect for other players. You and I have both been watching Cowboys football for a long time. No one ever consistently took over and wrecked games likes Parsons does on defense. He makes the entire unit better. That's what it is all about.

Exactly. Parsons has what seems like better players around him, but in part, they play better because of him. I could be mistaken, but when Ware was playing I don't remember anyone ever talking about him being the best player in the league, or even the best defensive player in the league. I love him, and he was a great player, but I don't think he had the natural ability Micah has.

 

[StarOfGlory]

Micah the Man

 

[blueblood70]

Good question. Ware was a great player. Parsons only has 2 years in. Ware maybe more consistent. That said when Parsons is on he is the most disruptive player I have seen in a Cowboys uniform.

While I agree to an extent you might be stretching that out a bit man you gotta remember since 1960 how many great players we've had on defense... I'm not gonna have to go back and name them all but there were some equally as disruptive players he's gonna have to do it for much much longer,,,