Who is your all-time least favorite Cowboy?

[DandyDon1722]

I wasn't alive for the Jackie Smith drop, but everytime I see it along with Lundquist's call. It makes me cringe.

Just because you weren't alive for a certain era, doesn't mean you can't go back and do some research.

I'm pretty sure Vin Scully called that game for CBS but you might be referring to the Dallas radio call which I believe Verne did - in either case it was as devastating loss as I've ever experienced.

As to the thread TO & Craig Morton and for me it's not even close.

 

[links18]

Cowboys "fans" are my least favorite.

What team has the best fans? Or should that be another thread?

 

[FiveRings]

Well, I haven't been around that long to see many of them, and I generally give our players the benefit of the doubt, but I never cared for Pat Watkins, and after this past season, Ratliff really rubbed me the wrong way

 

[KJJ]

DANNY WHITE DID NOT FUMBLE! That's required knowledge for every Cowboy fan. The Cowboys got screwed in that game. White's so-called fumble was an incomplete forward pass. It drives me nuts how every year they show "the catch" as if that was the play that won the game. It wasn't. The game was won on a ref screwup. With today's replay rules, the so-called fumble would have been overturned. The Cowboys had just completed a long pass to Drew Pearson and were getting close to field goal range and had one of the best kickers in the league in Rafael Septien. Earlier the refs also missed a blatant pass interference call on Doug Cosbie in the end zone that would have given us a new set of downs as a first and goal. It likely would have been a TD instead of a field goal, giving us 4 more points. That stupid "catch" (or the "luckout" as I call it) would not have been enough to win the game. The FartyNiners would have had to have pulled off an onside kick, which would have been very unlikely.

It drives me crazy when they show the worst calls in NFL history and they always neglect Danny White's incomplete pass that they falsely called a fumble.

It was a lot closer to a tuck than an incomplete pass. Most Cowboy fans argue the play would have fallen under the tuck rule (which has been done away with) had the rule been around then. White saw the oncoming rush and was attempting to bring the ball down to protect it when he lost it. I've probably had more arguments about that play than any in Cowboys history and am not about to get into another one. I've seen every angle of that play numerous times and it was a fumble back then and it would be today.

 

[conner01]

rat, because he quit
never cared for roy williams wr either

 

[KJJ]

Fast forward to the 2:45 mark Danny White is clearly bringing the ball down to protect it from the oncoming rush. He had already brought the ball down to his body when he got hit and lost it. When a QB loses the ball and it's called an incomplete pass their arm is hit during the throwing motion it's conclusive.

The replay shows that White had the ball down to his body and lost it as he was being tackled…FUMBLE! From the angle that's shown on the replay with Whites back to the camera as he loses the ball there's no way replay could have reversed that call had it been in effect at that time. You really can't see exactly where he lost the ball but it appeared to be against his body.

 

[DWhite Fan]

Who was it that fumbled the game away? Oh that's right............

Thanks for once again proving my point...

 

[KJJ]

You never see the ball leave Whites hand until it's already to his body. How anyone could call what we see in that video an incomplete pass is beyond me. The only thing that could have been debated on that play was the tuck rule that came around in 1999. If you look at the Tom Brady fumble his arm was up in the air and going forward when he lost the ball. The initial call was an incomplete pass and the tuck rule was never mentioned until the next day.

 

[DWhite Fan]

The only time players fall on the ball during a KO is during an onside kick. The natural instinct for any player handling a kickoff is to advance the ball especially when their team is behind. The Steelers recovered Whites fumble at the Cowboys 18 yard line so had White just fallen on the ball instead of trying to advance it the Cowboys would have been pinned deep in their own end of the field already down by 11 points.

Better than the Steelers getting the ball and going up by 18...

 

[DWhite Fan]

Randy White wasn't being paid to handle a football like Jackie Smith. White had a good excuse for fumbling the football on the kick off not only was he not use to handling the ball he had his hand taped up. His taped up hand and his great Cowboys career gives him a pass.

More reason for him to just fall on it...I am only referring to SB XIII...

 

[KJJ]

More reason for him to just fall on it...I am only referring to SB XIII...

The mistake was having him out there in the first place. You shouldn't have anyone in a position to possibly receive a kickoff with a tapped up hand.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Bledsoe wasn't that bad. He was, sadly, the best QB I got to watch until Tony Romo came along. Him and Terry Glenn just tearing up the Eagles was a sight to see. They were unstoppable that day.

I'd go with Ryan Leaf and Vinny Testaverde.

Bledsoe and Wade Phillips = same.... For me.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

It was a lot closer to a tuck than an incomplete pass. Most Cowboy fans argue the play would have fallen under the tuck rule (which has been done away with) had the rule been around then. White saw the oncoming rush and was attempting to bring the ball down to protect it when he lost it. I've probably had more arguments about that play than any in Cowboys history and am not about to get into another one. I've seen every angle of that play numerous times and it was a fumble back then and it would be today.

It was an incomplete pass according to the rules of the time, and those are the rules they should have used, not today's rules. By today's rules White also would have avoided a grounding penalty when he threw the ball away outside the pocket. But that call was legitimate because it was according to the rules in effect in 1981. There can be no doubt that White's "fumble" was really an incomplete pass.

 

[KJJ]

Better than the Steelers getting the ball and going up by 18...

The Cowboys were stupid to have Randy White out there with an injured wrist that was all tapped up over his hand. The object of receiving a kickoff is to advance it giving your offense decent field position. The Cowboys were down by 11 points to a great team that had all the momentum they couldn't afford to have a player just fall on the ball who hadn't even reached the 20 yard line. Had Randy White fallen on it just after receiving it he would have been criticized. You don't put players on your return team who have a hand injury that could prevent them from handling the football.

 

[DWhite Fan]

This is from Lone Star Struck (http://lonestarstruck.com/2013/09/27/four-minutes-and-54-seconds-that-will-live-forever-in-cowboys-history/):

"It was Cowboys safety Charlie Waters who confronted Cowboys defensive coordinator Ernie Stautner as to why it was a bad idea to be playing nickel defense with so much time left on the clock. Stautner’s response to Waters was…
“Look, we’ll get out of the nickel, but it’s going to be all on you.”


…meaning that Waters would have to answer to coach Landry. And Waters responded…


“No thanks”


So the Cowboys stayed in their nickel defense as the 49ers started on their 14 play drive. Over the years some have said that the 49ers called more rushing plays on the drive due to the Cowboys nickel defense, but the fact is that the 49ers actually ran 8 passing plays and 6 running plays on the drive. Of the 14 plays on the drive 11 of them went for positive yardage. The 49ers seemed to move down the field with ease and the 4:54 that was on the clock when the drive started dwindled down to just 58 seconds left when Joe Montana faced 3rd and 3 from the Cowboys six yard line. It was at that point Ernie Stautner removed his nickel defense and replaced it with the Cowboys base 4-3 defense."

That fact that the damn 49ers drove 83 yards in a little over 4 minutes against the Dallas defense is what has always frosted me...There is no excuse for that drive but yet, Danny lost the game all by himself (like Romo against Denver)...

 

[DWhite Fan]

The Cowboys were stupid to have Randy White out there with an injured wrist that was all tapped up over his hand. The object of receiving a kickoff is to advance it giving your offense decent field position. The Cowboys were down by 11 points to a great team that had all the momentum they couldn't afford to have a player just fall on the ball who hadn't even reached the 20 yard line. Had Randy White fallen on it just after receiving it he would have been criticized. You don't put players on your return team who have a hand injury that could prevent them from handling the football.

I agree with you...I never understood having Randy on the kickoff team injured...One thing that is not talked about much is the the INT that Roger threw at the close of the 1st half...Dallas was driving and sitting on the Steelers 32 when Roger tried to hit Drew coming across the field and Blount picked him off (Drew was cover like a blanket)...the Steelers then drove down for the go ahead TD on a Bradshaw to Bleier connection and the half ended 21-14 Pittsburgh...The play was similar to the TD that Drew caught to give Dallas its first TD in SB X against the Steelers...That is a pass I bet Roger would love to have back...

 

[KJJ]

It was an incomplete pass according to the rules of the time, and those are the rules they should have used, not today's rules. By today's rules White also would have avoided a grounding penalty when he threw the ball away outside the pocket. But that call was legitimate because it was according to the rules in effect in 1981. There can be no doubt that White's "fumble" was really an incomplete pass.

It was incomplete according to you. It was a fumble under the rules then and it would be a fumble under the rules of today watch the replay. How can a pass be ruled incomplete when the QB has the ball against their body attempting to protect it then lose it in a pile up as they're going down? Tom Brady's tuck play would be a fumble under todays rules the league has stated such and his play was a lot closer to being an incomplete pass than Danny Whites play. Brady's play was initially called an incomplete pass.

How could Tom Brady's tuck not be an incomplete pass but is now called a fumble by the league and Whites play be considered an incomplete pass by you and not a fumble? Are you going to tell me that Whites play looked more like an incomplete pass than Brady's? Brady's play is "officially" a fumble under the rules when White played and under the rules of today. Brady's arm was up in the air in a passing motion when the ball came out not down against his body.

 

[KJJ]

I agree with you...I never understood having Randy on the kickoff team injured...One thing that is not talked about much is the the INT that Roger threw at the close of the 1st half...Dallas was driving and sitting on the Steelers 32 when Roger tried to hit Drew coming across the field and Blount picked him off (Drew was cover like a blanket)...the Steelers then drove down for the go ahead TD on a Bradshaw to Bleier connection and the half ended 21-14 Pittsburgh...The play was similar to the TD that Drew caught to give Dallas its first TD in SB X against the Steelers...That is a pass I bet Roger would love to have back...

I don't even remember that INT on Staubach it was overshadowed by much more damning plays later on. What cost the Cowboys the game was Smith's drop in the end zone, Whites fumble on the kickoff and the phantom PI call on Benny Barnes that was so bogus that the NFL admitted blowing the call which resulted in a rule change on incidental contact only a few months later. Those 3 plays had a direct impact on the outcome of the game because they couldn't be overcome.

 

[mrmojo]

I don't even remember that INT on Staubach it was overshadowed by much more damning plays later on. What cost the Cowboys the game was Smith's drop in the end zone, Whites fumble on the kickoff and the phantom PI call on Benny Barnes that was so bogus that the NFL admitted blowing the call which resulted in a rule change on incidental contact only a few months later. Those 3 plays had a direct impact on the outcome of the game because they couldn't be overcome.

The Cowboys had to play a perfect game turnover wise in order beat that Steeler defense and stay toe to toe with the Steeler offense. Much like the Cowboys did in 2013 they got away from running Dorsett and the defense gave up the big plays, the TD to Stalworth had a lot of missed tackles and wrong angles. The run up the middle by Franco the Steelers just overpowered the middle of our line and linebackers and Waters was screened out by the Ref. Through all that it was the best Super Bowl i ever saw because it was two true heavyweights on the biggest stage.

 

[dogunwo]

Tyson Thompson and Ryan Mcniel