Who many years do we go without a playoff win?

[TellerMorrow34]

I didn't realise the talent he had in Buffalo and Atlanta was so great that it was squandered.

The Bills had piss for talent when he was there. He took a guy like Doug Flutie and Rob "Moron" Johnson and got them to the playoffs. They were an average team, talent wise, at best.

Atlanta? Please. That team has had like 5 talented players in the last 25 years.

That said I'm not a huge Wade fan. I just don't think he's as bad as he's made out to be.

 

[Idgit]

Something Wade has never accomplished. He squanders talent on a grand scale. His teams always deteriorate because he can't control them. He was done as a head coach 10 years ago, the only reason that he's coaching now is that Jerry wanted a patsy to hold the title while his boy in waiting was being groomed. He will never have another NFL head coaching position again after his laughable performance here. The players were on autopilot in the beginning of the 2007 season and crashed and burned when they needed some real leadership at the end of the season.

Other than the 07 loss to the Giants, what playoff games has Wade lost where he should have won? Music City Miracle, maybe? What else? Wade gets knocked for having a boring personality and for getting some pretty mediocre teams into the playoffs to begin with.

Your stuff about why Jerry hired Wade is nonsense, by the way. My advice is to just appreciate that we've got a competitive team again, finally.

 

[Idgit]

He's one of the most negative posters in this forum, I dont remember a single positive thing he has EVER wrote.

I suspect he might not even be a fan of the team and is really just a troll.

I think he's probably a poser, too.

In this case, though, he's more echoing opinions than making them up, unfortunately.

 

[Doomsay]

I didn't realise the talent he had in Buffalo and Atlanta was so great that it was squandered.

The Bills had piss for talent when he was there. He took a guy like Doug Flutie and Rob "Moron" Johnson and got them to the playoffs. They were an average team, talent wise, at best.

Atlanta? Please. That team has had like 5 talented players in the last 25 years.

That said I'm not a huge Wade fan. I just don't think he's as bad as he's made out to be.

He only coached 3 games at Atlanta. His record has deteriorated everywhere he's been. He's not head coaching material, he's not a leader of any magnitude, he's a career defensive coordinator. He was done coaching 10 years ago for a reason.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Wont be this year with Turnover Tony at the helm. You can count on him for at least 1 big play and 2 terrible plays a game.

 

[Idgit]

He only coached 3 games at Atlanta. His record has deteriorated everywhere he's been. He's not head coaching material, he's not a leader of any magnitude, he's a career defensive coordinator. He was done coaching 10 years ago for a reason.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.co...nningest_coaches:_only_we_have_the_list!.html

He's top 30 ALL TIME in terms of winning % and top 2 active for coaches with a minimum of 100 games as of the start of the 2008 season. Some chump.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He only coached 3 games at Atlanta. His record has deteriorated everywhere he's been. He's not head coaching material, he's not a leader of any magnitude, he's a career defensive coordinator. He was done coaching 10 years ago for a reason.

I'm not saying, at all, that he's a fantastic head coach. My point was that it was said he squandered all kinds of talent, and was done so in such a fashion to make it seem like he'd done that everywhere he went, and it's clear to everyone that two of his stops had average, at best, talent and yet he got to some playoffs even with that average talent.

He's not great, by any means, but he's far from some piece of crap who sucks so bad that the average Joe could do just as good as he has done.

 

[Doomsay]

I'm not saying, at all, that he's a fantastic head coach. My point was that it was said he squandered all kinds of talent, and was done so in such a fashion to make it seem like he'd done that everywhere he went, and it's clear to everyone that two of his stops had average, at best, talent and yet he got to some playoffs even with that average talent.

He's not great, by any means, but he's far from some piece of crap who sucks so bad that the average Joe could do just as good as he has done.

I think that a deteriorating record everywhere he coached and 0-4 playoff record speaks for itself. His own pathetic mia culpa at season's end where he vowed to get tough then admitted that it was not in his nature, spoke volumes, his players laughed at the idea of him getting tough. Do you think that any team in the NFL will ever hire him as a head coach? If the answer is no, then why is the coach of (still) one of the most talented teams in the NFL? Put him on an average team and he'd be 5-11, or worse IMO.


I think that he is a good DC, but our points allowed deteriorated significantly last season. If he can make the defense dominant this year, then he will deservedly get another DC gig elsewhere.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think that a deteriorating record everywhere he coached and 0-4 playoff record speaks for itself. His own pathetic mia culpa at season's end where he vowed to get tough then admitted that it was not in his nature, spoke volumes, his players laughed at the idea of him getting tough. Do you think that any team in the NFL will ever hire him as a head coach? If the answer is no, then why is the coach of (still) one of the most talented teams in the NFL? Put him on an average team and he'd be 5-11, or worse IMO.


I think that he is a good DC, but our points allowed deteriorated significantly last season. If he can make the defense dominant this year, then he will deservedly get another DC gig elsewhere.

I agree, for sure, but I also put a part of, a bigger part in fact, of that nose dive, at least for us, on the players. At some point the players just have to step up and play. The coach can't get out there and do it for them. They either can do it or they can't. To this point or team, all around not just on the defensive side of the ball, has proven they can't do it when they get into the stretch run.

 

[Monster Heel]

I would like to think we are shooting for more than just a playoff win. I doubt anyone is going to be happy making the playoffs and winning 1 then done. My expectation is the NFC Championship anything less will be a disappointment in my eyes.

This is part of the problem. The Cowboys are too big for their britches as an organization right now. We're guilty of it as a fanbase too. Jerry Jones and the media have been selling us swamp land for about 3 years running now. Would any other team/group of fans besides maybe the Commanders, who we see as a joke, continue with this ON THE CUSP attitude when they hadn't done anything in ages?

 

[Doomsday101]

This is part of the problem. The Cowboys are too big for their britches as an organization right now. We're guilty of it as a fanbase too. Jerry Jones and the media have been selling us swamp land for about 3 years running now. Would any other team/group of fans besides maybe the Commanders, who we see as a joke, continue with this ON THE CUSP attitude when they hadn't done anything in ages?

I think this team has the talent to win and thus I have high expectations that does not mean they will achieve it only that I feel they can. When the talent base was less than it is now my expectations were not as high. I think if this team can put all the baggage behind them and focus on the job at hand they can prove a lot of critics wrong. This is just the way I see it, I don't agree with the doom and gloom crowd downing every single thing the Cowboys do and claiming 5-11 or 8-8 I think the team is capable of more.

 

[Monster Heel]

I agree, for sure, but I also put a part of, a bigger part in fact, of that nose dive, at least for us, on the players. At some point the players just have to step up and play. The coach can't get out there and do it for them. They either can do it or they can't. To this point or team, all around not just on the defensive side of the ball, has proven they can't do it when they get into the stretch run.

The core players have proven through two polar opposite regimes that they're prone to laying down so that's one thing that can't be put all on Wade. It goes up higher and hints at the lack of accountability from on high. How many of these players that have lain down and been part of these horrific collapses over the past 13 years have been rewarded for it? WAAAAYYY too many. I'm not trying to say that you take the hatchet to the team, but heads need to roll more than they do. Don't get the job done, you don't get rewarded for being mediocre. The offensive line is a prime example of this. These guys have collapsed two seasons running and they're jobs are ridiculously secure. Even a guy like Cory Procter seems all, but assured to be playing on this team next year.

 

[superpunk]

I really don't understand why more posters haven't given the OP crap about writing "Who" instead of "How" in his title.

Cowboyszone is slipping.

 

[bbgun]

If it doesn't happen this year, it may not happen for a long long time. The window doesn't stay open forever.

 

[Monster Heel]

I think this team has the talent to win and thus I have high expectations that does not mean they will achieve it only that I feel they can. When the talent base was less than it is now my expectations were not as high. I think if this team can put all the baggage behind them and focus on the job at hand they can prove a lot of critics wrong. This is just the way I see it, I don't agree with the doom and gloom crowd downing every single thing the Cowboys do and claiming 5-11 or 8-8 I think the team is capable of more.

The doom and gloom crowd is warranted in feeling this way if only because this team has proven every single of the criticisms true time and time again. How many people were right on cue with the impending December collapse? Not even just our fans, but fans around the league. How many called Pacman Jones being a detriment to the team? The list of negative criticisms that were 100% right is longer than I care to think about. Everybody knows this team can't get it done and we're worse off now than we we're last year. I've tried and tried to be optimistic about this team, but they won't allow you to be.

 

[Monster Heel]

I really don't understand why more posters haven't given the OP crap about writing "Who" instead of "How" in his title.

Cowboyszone is slipping.

They forgive slightly light headed posting, I suppose. :laugh1:

 

[Monster Heel]

If it doesn't happen this year, it may not happen for a long long time. The window doesn't stay open forever.

Exactly. I'd like to think we got better this offseason, but I don't really believe it. How many years of high level play does this team have? And the other teams in our division aren't standing pat or getting worse. The last few years have been the worst of the decade for the Eagles and now they're reloading. The Giants are right on par with us, but better coached and managed. We aren't even on a tier above Washington.

 

[Doomsday101]

The doom and gloom crowd is warranted in feeling this way if only because this team has proven every single of the criticisms true time and time again. How many people were right on cue with the impending December collapse? Not even just our fans, but fans around the league. How many called Pacman Jones being a detriment to the team? The list of negative criticisms that were 100% right is longer than I care to think about. Everybody knows this team can't get it done and we're worse off now than we we're last year. I've tried and tried to be optimistic about this team, but they won't allow you to be.

I understand their frustration. Heck I'm not asking anyone to believe in the Cowboys. I do that is what matter I don't care how any other fan feels I'm not trying to sell this team to any other fan out there.

I see talent on this team I think they can win and if they don't then I'll be disappointed, if others choose to have low expectation great if that is how they feel.

I don't base my feelings on blind loyalty I base my feelings on the talent I see. As for collapsing late in the season that can't be denied but hell I can remember a time when it was said Dallas can't win the big game and no one could deny that since for years we failed to win it until we did.

 

[Mash]

For me personally......Playoff wins dont mean much.

If this team sprinkled a few playoff wins here and there without winning the SB...it makes no difference.....other then having the mediots and fans complaining about not winning a playoff game.

For me its win the Super Bowl.....anything less is a disappointment and I dont believe a winning season and a playoff victory makes you any better the following year.

JMHO

 

[Rampage]

how many years are we at? 12 right?