Who still thinks Zeke was a mistake at #4?

[aikemirv]

4th and 1 with game on the line and you run DAK, get 1st.
You are underestimating Dak man.

You do that to prevent penetration like the prior play. Drew Brees scored on a QB sneak - you have no point there!

 

[jterrell]

Thorough week 7, Prescott is a higher rated QB than Brady. Keep up with that.

Did the Pats win the Super Bowl this year?
Or you just got confused in point you were making?

To be clear: The way to win a SB is generally considered to be:
1. Franchise QB.
2. Plus Defense.

No one is arguing the way to win is via franchise RB because it just hasn't been done without one of those 2 things in the past 30 or so years.

 

[jterrell]

So 42 of 75 yards for Elliot right - all catches were behind the line of scrimmage.

32/// good lord man math isn't that hard.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

Did the Pats win the Super Bowl this year?
Or you just got confused in point you were making?

To be clear: The way to win a SB is generally considered to be:
1. Franchise QB.
2. Plus Defense.

No one is arguing the way to win is via franchise RB because it just hasn't been done without one of those 2 things in the past 30 or so years.

You brought up "all time", not me, so don't try to pivot now, smart guy. And that's your opinion and personal preference, not a fact, as I've demonstrated clearly in this thread. Enjoy looking foolish for continuing to complain about drafting the league's leading rusher while we rack up wins.

 

[jterrell]

You do that to prevent penetration like the prior play. Drew Brees scored on a QB sneak - you have no point there!

Actually I do.
If penetration stops Zeke then is he really more important than the QB whom it didn't stop and who also tossed a TD to win the game a couple plays later?

If you think Zeek is more VALUABLE than Dak you are simply wrong.

 

[Ranching]

I've always loved this pick. The Cowboys aren't the Cowboys without a stud RB. From Tony Dorsett to Emmitt Smith to Zeke. All he needs now are a couple of Super bowl rings.

 

[aikemirv]

32/// good lord man math isn't that hard.

Actually 28 - cause I added the 14 that I should not have

 

[aikemirv]

Actually I do.
If penetration stops Zeke then is he really more important than the QB whom it didn't stop and who also tossed a TD to win the game a couple plays later?

If you think Zeek is more VALUABLE than Dak you are simply wrong.

I bet the Eagles defensive coordinator would disagree with you.

 

[CVN68_Cowboys]

I've always loved this pick. The Cowboys aren't the Cowboys without a stud RB. From Tony Dorsett to Emmitt Smith to Zeke. All he needs now are a couple of Super bowl rings.

What I think is most genius about what the Cowboys have done in 2014 and now 2016 was to follow the K.I.S.S. model (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Go against the grain, throw the stupid "just throw any running back in there" cliche in the trash, and win ball games. Think that trend is going to start to reversing itself in many cases. It works best when you actually invest in the position instead of going for some bargain basement, McFadden type of option.

 

[Nightman]

What I think is most genius about what the Cowboys have done in 2014 and now 2016 was to follow the K.I.S.S. model (Keep It Simple, The Stupid). Go against the grain, throw the stupid "just throw any running back in there" cliche in the trash, and win ball games. Think that trend is going to start to reversing itself in many cases. It works best when you actually invest in the position instead of going for some bargain basement, McFadden type of option.

The guy just compared RBs to Punter, TEs and OGs.......epic fail

 

[joseephuss]

Jerry needed to give up another 3rd to get Lynch. There was talk they were willing to give up a 4th. I think the Seahawks would have gone for a deal with 2 fourth rounders in place of the 3rd rounder.




YR

I'm a bit lost. Which picks would Dallas need to trade to have gotten Lynch? Another 3rd? To go with what? Denver traded with Seattle by giving the Seahawks their 1st and a 3rd. Dallas did not have a 1st round pick to trade.

 

[CWR]

Pretty safe to say anyone left that still believes Zeke was a mistake is the type that simply always has to be right and cant let it go lol. The proof is on the field.

 

[CWR]

Did the Pats win the Super Bowl this year?
Or you just got confused in point you were making?

To be clear: The way to win a SB is generally considered to be:
1. Franchise QB.
2. Plus Defense.

No one is arguing the way to win is via franchise RB because it just hasn't been done without one of those 2 things in the past 30 or so years.

Denver had no franchise qb to speak of last year. In fact thier formula was defense and running the ball.

 

[Alexander]

Jalen Ramsey.

 

[thisiscowboyscountry]

I was in the Jalen Ramsey camp, but Zeke has exceeded expectations and I have no regrets!

 

[phildadon86]

I was against the EE pick. But not so vehemently against it that I wouldn't take him. I was not happy when we could have traded down to #6 and still gotten Zeke and used that to extra pick to get Paxton Lynch.

I thought EE would be productive, but it puts a lot of pressure in that he would have to be a 1,500+ yard back to justify the pick. The thing is that you can find very productive backs outside of the first round. The other issue is that the injury rate is very high for a RB. Even Alfred Morris, who is only 27 years old, looks nowhere near as explosive as he did when he was a rookie 4 years ago. That's still a concern for me with EE.

I thought EE was good, but I didn't know he was this good. I always get the feeling like I'm watching a prodigy out there. He runs a lot like Emmitt, but far more explosive and far better in the passing game and blocks and runs route in the passing game Roger Craig.

I also didn't expect the secondary to play this well and be this much improved. I'm not nutty about JJ Wilcox starting, but he's a far better player than he was a year ago. There's talk of Mo Claiborne being the highest rated CB in the league (I don't buy it, but that shows how much he improved). And Carr looks more than competent and Anthony Brown looks like a future quality starter.

Sometimes it's great to be wrong.





YR

Baltimore was going to take Zeke. I stopped reading after that

 

[slick325]

When asked if Zeke has exceeded expectations even though he is 4th overall pick columnist Gosselin responded:

"Gosselin: When you lead the NFL in rushing at the season's midway point, you're exceeding expectations regardless whether you're the first, the fourth or the 50th pick of a draft. Elliott is giving the Cowboys exactly what they hoped they were getting -- a physical back who can pound away inside and provide a ball- and clock-control element, but also a speed back who can take it to the house when daylight presents itself. If he plays 16 games like the first seven, he'll be the runaway winner for NFL Rookie of the Year."

The Boys hit another 1st round home run. No one can question that anymore.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Baltimore was going to take Zeke. I stopped reading after that

No, they weren't. Ozzie Newsome himself said that they wanted Jalen Ramsey.




YR

 

[Thomas82]

I've always loved this pick. The Cowboys aren't the Cowboys without a stud RB. From Tony Dorsett to Emmitt Smith to Zeke. All he needs now are a couple of Super bowl rings.

Cosign!! He was my guy the whole time as well. I have wanted him since Ohio St. won the National Championship 2 years ago.