Who would be happy or upset if Trey Lance lights it up in pre-season?

[EST_1986]

Most people here who fervently root for Dak only do so because he’s the starting QB for the Cowboys. Once he’s not, then they’ll change… most of them.

I remember a specific poster here who I used to argue with about Amari Cooper. How he wasn’t worth what Dallas was paying him and he was good but limited. The poster would blow up at the very notion he wasn’t a top tier WR in the league. Then once he got traded to Cleveland, that same poster started using the exact same arguments I did in explaining how it was a good idea you dropped him.

The moment Dak is downgraded, they’ll turn on him.

Call him out

 

[Rockport]

San Francisco in the trade up to No. 3 in the 2021 draft sent their 2021, 2022 and 2023 first-round choices, along with a third-round pick in the 2022 draft to the Dolphins and drafted Trey Lance.

They then traded Trey Lance for a 4th? Never say never.

Not re-signing Dak saves 35M in 2024 and 25M in 2025. You never know, he's mentally unstable in the post season.

Who’s going to replace him? A rookie? You think the Cowboys are going to play a rookie during the last year of MM’s contract? See, this is how Madden players view the NFL. They think they can just go out and get an elite quarterback.

 

[KJJ]

https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys

Put in a post 6/1 cut. The cap hit is $25,455,000.

It would result in a lot of dead money the next 2 seasons. The team won’t do that, plus it would leave them without a viable QB.

“Releasing Prescott isn't practical anyway. The Cowboys would be contending with $61.915 million of dead money, a salary cap charge for a player no longer on a team's roster, relating to Prescott. The dead money would be taken over the next two years with $25.455 million in 2024 and $36.46 million in 2025 through the use of a post-June 1 designation.”

 

[Brooksey]

It would result in a lot of dead money the next 2 seasons. The team won’t do that, plus it would leave them without a viable QB.

“Releasing Prescott isn't practical anyway. The Cowboys would be contending with $61.915 million of dead money, a salary cap charge for a player no longer on a team's roster, relating to Prescott. The dead money would be taken over the next two years with $25.455 million in 2024 and $36.46 million in 2025 through the use of a post-June 1 designation.”

That's one hell of a discount vs paying 60M for a guy who struggles in the post season.

35M savings in 2024
25M savings in 2025

You can look at the cup as half full or half empty.

 

[MikeT22]

The only way Lance gets a chance to play is if Dak gets hurt. MM is a lame duck coach, he is not going to bench a second team All-Pro quarterback for a draft bust.

MM had no authority to bench Dak

 

[KJJ]

San Francisco in the trade up to No. 3 in the 2021 draft sent their 2021, 2022 and 2023 first-round choices, along with a third-round pick in the 2022 draft to the Dolphins and drafted Trey Lance.

They then traded Trey Lance for a 4th? Never say never.

Not re-signing Dak saves 35M in 2024 and 25M in 2025. You never know, he's mentally unstable in the post season.

They traded Lance because he was a bust who couldn’t even win the backup job. They were trying to get something for him. If you think that’s what’s going to happen with Dak, you’re dreaming. lol

 

[KJJ]

That's one hell of a discount vs paying 60M for a guy who struggles in the post season.

35M savings in 2024
25M savings in 2025

You can look at the cup as half full or half empty.

No one but you is saying that’s a good deal. Plus the team would be left having to go with Rush or Lance next season and that’s not happening.

 

[MikeT22]

They traded Lance because he was a bust who couldn’t even win the backup job. They were trying to get something for him. If you think that’s what’s going to happen with Dak, you’re dreaming. lol

But leave it to Jerry, one of the worst GMs in the league to swoop in and offer a 4th

 

[BoysForLife]

"All" of them??? Nope.

You must not have spent much time in Texas. Or maybe you're not old enough to remember the Quincy Carter vs Chad Hutchinson debates.

Yes because anyone who criticized Quincy Carter *had* to be doing it based on his appearance.

That guy was incredible. Lacked nothing on the field.

 

[SultanOfSix]

They traded Lance because he was a bust who couldn’t even win the backup job. They were trying to get something for him. If you think that’s what’s going to happen with Dak, you’re dreaming. lol

This is delusional. Since when did the Cowboys trade for a QB to develop him and then try to get something for him? JJ made this trade because of the gambler he is and for the possibility of an insurance policy and replacement for Dak. The team had him rated as a second round pick when he was drafted (even as raw as he was) and therefore saw it as an easy trade. It may not work out, but this idea that JJ and company did this to turn him over for something is completely bogus and contrary to how JJ has operated in the past.

 

[KJJ]

But leave it to Jerry, one of the worst GMs in the league to swoop in and offer a 4th

That was the best the 49ers could get and they jumped! Reminds me when Jerry gave up a 3rd for Drew Henson after the Texans found out he couldn’t play.

 

[KJJ]

This is delusional. Since when did the Cowboys trade for a QB to develop him and then try to get something for him? JJ made this trade because of the gambler he is and for the possibility of an insurance policy and replacement for Dak. The team had him rated as a second round pick when he was drafted (even as raw as he was) and therefore saw it as an easy trade. It may not work out, but this idea that JJ and company did this to turn him over for something is completely bogus and contrary to how JJ has operated in the past.

This isn’t the first time this has happened with the Cowboys. There was a report they tried to trade Drew Henson after trading a 3rd round pick for him, once they saw he couldn’t play and Romo moved ahead of him. There were no takers and he was released. Lance was an easy trade because no one else wanted him. If he doesn’t develop the Cowboys will have no choice but to try and get something for him or release him. They’re not going to pay him big money to be the backup and he’s going to want an opportunity elsewhere. If the Cowboys extend Dak, there’s no hope for Lance as a starter with the Cowboys.

 

[MikeT22]

That was the best the 49ers could get and they jumped! Reminds me when Jerry gave up a 3rd for Drew Henson after the Texans found out he couldn’t play.

Of course it was the best they could get. The league can always rely on Jones when they need someone to sucker.

 

[Brooksey]

No one but you is saying that’s a good deal. Plus the team would be left having to go with Rush or Lance next season and that’s not happening.

If we pay Dak 55-60M a year we're looking at another 10 years of the same.
Trey Lance is raw, he's not a bust. He's 23 with a better arm and better feet then Dak.

I'm not sure what's upstairs with Trey, SF didn't like it but it can't be worse than the storm Prescott is dealing with.
I'd take that 35M in cap savings and build the #1 defense in the league, shore up the O-line, let Trey drive the bus.

 

[SultanOfSix]

This isn’t the first time this has happened with the Cowboys. There was a report they tried to trade Drew Henson after trading a 3rd round pick for him, once they saw he couldn’t play and Romo moved ahead of him. There were no takers and he was released. Lance was an easy trade because no one else wanted him. If he doesn’t develop the Cowboys will have no choice but to try and get something for him or release him. They’re not going to pay him big money to be the backup and he’s going to want an opportunity elsewhere. If the Cowboys extend Dak, there’s no hope for Lance as a starter with the Cowboys.

Yeah, so? The point is Jerry isn’t trading for people to develop and trade. He’s a risk taker hoping things will work out. Plenty of people were offering picks for Lance. But they wouldn’t go higher than a 5th. Jerry offered a 4th rounder for a second round rated talent that he expected to be like a high 5th. Henson was traded for for the same reason. The difference with Henson was that he was a duel sports guy who was out of football for a while.

 

[KJJ]

Yeah, so? The point is Jerry isn’t trading for people to develop and trade. He’s a risk taker hoping things will work out. Plenty of people were offering picks for Lance. But they wouldn’t go higher than a 5th. Jerry offered a 4th rounder for a second round rated talent that he expected to be like a high 5th. Henson was traded for for the same reason. The difference with Henson was that he was a duel sports guy who was out of football for a while.

I never said that he traded for Lance to develop him and trade him. He traded for Lance to cover himself in the event Dak continued to regress and they decided to move on from him. A 4th round pick was the best offer SF got for Lance. It says a lot for how little everyone thought of him not to offer more than a 5th round pick, so they had no choice but to jump at a 4th rounder. Not a lot for a QB they traded the farm to move up for.

 

[JoeKing]

Trey Lance lights it up in OTAs and pre-season. Outplays Dak and takes the starting job. Gets us to the NFCCG.
Who would be happy and who would be upset?

I'm sure a bunch of Dak fans will say its not possible, that's not the question,
Who would be happy and who would be upset?

The coaching staff won't give Trey Lance enough snaps to "light it up" He's a backup QB so that's how he will be treated. OTAs are not QB camp. There will be no competition with Dak for Trey to shine. If you hate Dak so much that you let yourself believe that garbage then you need a dose of reality... IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN!.

 

[KJJ]

If we pay Dak 55-60M a year we're looking at another 10 years of the same.
Trey Lance is raw, he's not a bust. He's 23 with a better arm and better feet then Dak.

I'm not sure what's upstairs with Trey, SF didn't like it but it can't be worse than the storm Prescott is dealing with.
I'd take that 35M in cap savings and build the #1 defense in the league, shore up the O-line, let Trey drive the bus.

Lance was a bust or he wouldn’t have been dumped for a 4th round pick after only 2 seasons. The 49ers had very high expectations for him which is why they traded so much to move up in the draft for him. If we don’t pay Dak we may be stuck with 10 years of much worse than not going deep in the playoffs. We may not see the playoffs for 10 years. A lot of bad things can happen when you don’t have a viable QB. Even with Romo we went 4 straight years without a playoff appearance. The Cowboys have bigger problems than at QB.

 

[ryanbabs]

If he took us to the championship game…who the hell would be mad

Fake fans?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If we pay Dak 55-60M a year we're looking at another 10 years of the same.
Trey Lance is raw, he's not a bust. He's 23 with a better arm and better feet then Dak.

I'm not sure what's upstairs with Trey, SF didn't like it but it can't be worse than the storm Prescott is dealing with.
I'd take that 35M in cap savings and build the #1 defense in the league, shore up the O-line, let Trey drive the bus.

The thing is....so many people think they know Treys' skill set, limits, ceiling, accomplishments. The PROUDLY proclaim his demise.

They are usually Dak Defenders.