Whoever they hire at DC, they must not make major changes to the scheme

[quickccc]

Whomever they decide to hire as the new DC, they must:

-do not make major changes to the scheme. If they fire MM, that would be the time to do that with another staff. Try to keep some of the staff, to have an easy transition.

-must make it a priority to fix the run game and have a better plan on defending all the motions and shifts this group has struggled badly with.

-have a creative plan how to employ Parsons within the defense.

I disagree.

- Quinn scheme was vulnerable to misdirection Shanahan like style offenses.
- Quinn system is more suited and set up for fast & furious ala small & quick, which led to being out-physical by those opposing teams.
- While I can get using the hybrid nickel in packages, once it became a product for an every down, every game basis, it can be exposed
and worn down.

- The last 2 DCs simply could not solve the issue vs run, it’s time to re-invent a new idea, new scheme, new approach, new coach
in his own way to solve this problem.
We've tried it the Quinn way - now it needs to be a try a different approach,
different personnel use, different scheme.

- Quinn run gap scheme needs to be dismandled and changed to a more physical and discipline gap scheme – one that can match
muscle vs muscle, and maintain lanes, not running up field out of control.,and always going with safeties as MLBs, full time 205 lb safeties
as LBs.

- Leave it to this new DC to invent his own way of best utlizing Parsons role. Be it a Hasson Riddick role in a 4-3 scheme.

- Leave it to the new DC to have and use who he feels most comfortable with among his assistants, his scheme & philosophy vs a different one.
not a square peg in a round-hole.

I'd be interested to see how Zimm employs his LBs ,ala in prime Barr, Hendricks, Henderson, ..vs what Quinn/Scott Curry did with LBs here.

- Zimm believes in being on the sidelines, and in his players faces, giving off his in game emotions vs on in the booth. It differs among coaches.

- I’d be interested to see Zimm’s coverage schemes vs Quinn’s - if Zimm prefers zone or man, and how much he’d mix and disguise it – I do know he performed a miracle with an aging but resurrected Terrence Newman per Cincy & Minnesota

 

[Rayman70]

I disagree.

- Quinn scheme was vulnerable to misdirection Shanahan like style offenses.
- Quinn system is more suited and set up for fast & furious ala small & quick, which led to being out-physical by those opposing teams.
- While I can get using the hybrid nickel in packages, once it became a product for an every down, every game basis, it can be exposed
and worn down.

- The last 2 DCs simply could not solve the issue vs run, it’s time to re-invent a new idea, new scheme, new approach, new coach
in his own way to solve this problem.
We've tried it the Quinn way - now it needs to be a try a different approach,
different personnel use, different scheme.

- Quinn run gap scheme needs to be dismandled and changed to a more physical and discipline gap scheme – one that can match
muscle vs muscle, and maintain lanes, not running up field out of control.,and always going with safeties as MLBs, full time 205 lb safeties
as LBs.

- Leave it to this new DC to invent his own way of best utlizing Parsons role. Be it a Hasson Riddick role in a 4-3 scheme.

- Leave it to the new DC to have and use who he feels most comfortable with among his assistants, his scheme & philosophy vs a different one.
not a square peg in a round-hole.

I'd be interested to see how Zimm employs his LBs ,ala in prime Barr, Hendricks, Henderson, ..vs what Quinn/Scott Curry did with LBs here.

- Zimm believes in being on the sidelines, and in his players faces, giving off his in game emotions vs on in the booth. It differs among coaches.

- I’d be interested to see Zimm’s coverage schemes vs Quinn’s - if Zimm prefers zone or man, and how much he’d mix and disguise it – I do know he performed a miracle with an aging but resurrected Terrence Newman per Cincy & Minnesota

this 100%. Running the same failed scheme would be a disaster. It worked in the first half of the regular season but got exposed late. We need a different mentality and ideas. Different personnel.

 

[Coogiguy03]

No matter what system you may use, there are many similarities. You are either aggressive, passive, or a balance of both
It all starts up front and we need some retooling on both sides of the ball. Again, to me, we are in a transition period whether we like it or not.

say that again, but does jerry want to accept that

 

[kskboys]

Unfortunately the only way to accomplish your 3rd point is to change the scheme.

Not if you get real LB's and a high quality starting 3 tech.

 

[Rockport]

Yes he is, in fact he's interviewing for the DC of the Dallas Cowboys on Monday. Please stop spreading false information.



I've never seen anyone speak so authoritatively about something they are clueless on



Which means nothing. You think Whitt Jr is to blame for an insides kick gone awry.

There is a lot to say for continuity especially if you're name is Mike MCarthy and are a proof it year, you most likely don't want to completely overhaul your entire defense in that year.

He’s gone to the Commanders. Let it go.

 

[Proof]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/candidates-expected-to-interview-for-dc-next-week

Directly from Team Website by Nick Harris staff reporter.

Keep showing you're true nature, I find it hilarious.

We are discussing an interview for the position. Stop trying to wiggle out, admit you were wrong and move on.

Neither do you but you insisting it's not going to happen. Admit you were wrong and move on

its absolutely pointless to argue with this guy

 

[Gambit]

its absolutely pointless to argue with this guy

Yes I've finally put him in ignore

 

[xwalker]

I’d be shocked if Zimmer isn’t the guy.

Other than some consulting stuff his career is probably over unless Jerry hires him….and he is probably the favorite to be the head coach in 2025 as of now.

Think about that for a moment.

Based on what?

If anybody needed so.w time off, it was Zimmer.

Family Deaths
2009 Wife
2015 Father
2022 Son

 

[xwalker]

Whomever they decide to hire as the new DC, they must:

-do not make major changes to the scheme. If they fire MM, that would be the time to do that with another staff. Try to keep some of the staff, to have an easy transition.

-must make it a priority to fix the run game and have a better plan on defending all the motions and shifts this group has struggled badly with.

-have a creative plan how to employ Parsons within the defense.

Didn't they change everything when changing from Nolan to Quinn?

 

[Cowboyny]

Didn't they change everything when changing from Nolan to Quinn?

Pretty much reverted back to a 4-3 alignment.

 

[blueblood70]

He’s gone to the Commanders. Let it go.

I was so clueless, I was correct lol whether have been a great gut feeling and a wild guess, it doesn't matter....

 

[blueblood70]

its absolutely pointless to argue with this guy

it is pointless when you're trying to make your wild guess of against my wild guess and my gut happened to be correct this time we've been reading it since day one Joe Witt and most of this staff will follow Quinn to Washington and it's happening and yet this dude stood fast and you're backing him up and you're backing the horse that lost the race but good luck with all that... My input was correct it's useless to even debate what Joe wits defense would have looked like here since it never was gonna be here...

. And this defense will have some major changes both in scheme and some players it is not standing status quo or we would have probably tried to keep some of these guys the fact that we have it is a giant spotlight saying that with there will be changes...

 

[Cowboyny]

I disagree.

- Quinn scheme was vulnerable to misdirection Shanahan like style offenses.
- Quinn system is more suited and set up for fast & furious ala small & quick, which led to being out-physical by those opposing teams.
- While I can get using the hybrid nickel in packages, once it became a product for an every down, every game basis, it can be exposed
and worn down.

- The last 2 DCs simply could not solve the issue vs run, it’s time to re-invent a new idea, new scheme, new approach, new coach
in his own way to solve this problem.
We've tried it the Quinn way - now it needs to be a try a different approach,
different personnel use, different scheme.

- Quinn run gap scheme needs to be dismandled and changed to a more physical and discipline gap scheme – one that can match
muscle vs muscle, and maintain lanes, not running up field out of control.,and always going with safeties as MLBs, full time 205 lb safeties
as LBs.

- Leave it to this new DC to invent his own way of best utlizing Parsons role. Be it a Hasson Riddick role in a 4-3 scheme.

- Leave it to the new DC to have and use who he feels most comfortable with among his assistants, his scheme & philosophy vs a different one.
not a square peg in a round-hole.

I'd be interested to see how Zimm employs his LBs ,ala in prime Barr, Hendricks, Henderson, ..vs what Quinn/Scott Curry did with LBs here.

- Zimm believes in being on the sidelines, and in his players faces, giving off his in game emotions vs on in the booth. It differs among coaches.

- I’d be interested to see Zimm’s coverage schemes vs Quinn’s - if Zimm prefers zone or man, and how much he’d mix and disguise it – I do know he performed a miracle with an aging but resurrected Terrence Newman per Cincy & Minnesota

My point was, if MM is around for another season, don't make drastic changes just yet. Do that when a new staff is hired. No doubt some changes have to be made.

Out of the DC's being discussed, actually like Zimmer's fit the best:

-He has worked for the Jones Family before.
-Had good success as the DC with Cincy
-Helped put together strong defensive personnel with the Vikings, might even bring back George Edwards.
-His defenses have always been good against the run and put a big emphasis on good press corners, which we have.

 

[Cowboyny]

I agree and thus the reason I felt promoting Whitt was the most logical thing to do. Keep continuity, add LBers, maybe more beef on the line and figure out the best way to use Micah. But ole Jerry thinks making a splash hire is some old retread that will get him in the news SB week. This crap is so old.

My worry is, about happens when MM gets fired, the new HC is going to have to take on this new DC.

 

[Cowboyny]

Unfortunately the only way to accomplish your 3rd point is to change the scheme.

Yes, but I see that post MM.

 

[Cowboyny]

If you are going to improve the riun defense you need to make changes to the scheme. It’s obvious the Cowboys will change their defense because they let Witt go. You better change the scheme because you are playing Washington twice and no team will know our defense better.

My point is, if MM is still here, hire within and don't force a DC on a new hire next season. Fully understand the scheme has to be adjusted, but try to make the transition as easy as possible this season.

 

[Cmac]

Whomever they decide to hire as the new DC, they must:

-do not make major changes to the scheme. If they fire MM, that would be the time to do that with another staff. Try to keep some of the staff, to have an easy transition.

-must make it a priority to fix the run game and have a better plan on defending all the motions and shifts this group has struggled badly with.

-have a creative plan how to employ Parsons within the defense.

Keeping it simple......get some LBs that are physical and have lateral speed, for starters. Bell is a keeper, just needs to be repositioned. That's what I'm hoping to hear from our next DC during the presser.

 

[Cowboyny]

Whoever they hire needs to put at least 30 pounds back on Mazi Smith

What in the world were they thinking? Heard the former Viking assistant wanted a 3T in the draft and was the one driving this.

 

[Cowboyny]

Keeping it simple......get some LBs that are physical and have lateral speed, for starters. Bell is a keeper, just needs to be repositioned. That's what I'm hoping to hear from our next DC during the presser.

Another poster made a good point, move Parsons to strong-side linebacker against the run kind of like how the Vikings used Barr. Add a legitimate Mike Linebacker and perhaps add more size inside.

 

[darthseinfeld]

What in the world were they thinking? Heard the former Viking assistant wanted a 3T in the draft and was the one driving this.

Hadnt heard that tidbit. Why not just take Breese at that point.

If we hire, that does give me alot of confidence that we get good production out of Smith. He has done well with those type of players. Even though Zimmer wasnt the one that developed him, Dalvin Tomlinson has been my comp for Smith