Who's at Fault? NFL Network or Cable? You Choose

[Ashwynn]

If they gained more total customers would that more then offset the cost to the cable company?

 

[dricas24]

oh I thoght for a second that people locally cant wacth either but I see its gonna be on 21 locally.

 

[Tuna Helper]

So let me get this straight. Some cable companies have transacted with NFL. Some have not. Some satellite companies have transacted with the NFL. Some have not.

What about this situation leads you to believe that the characteristic of being a cable company leads to unwillingness to negotiate?

Actually Dish and DirecTV carry NFL Network. Time Warner and several other cable companies have publicly said that they will not add NFL Network.

They aren't willing to negotiate.

 

[Concord]

So let me get this straight. Some cable companies have transacted with NFL. Some have not. Some satellite companies have transacted with the NFL. Some have not.

What about this situation leads you to believe that the characteristic of being a cable company leads to unwillingness to negotiate?

DirecTV and Dish which are the only real satellite Company's have.

The only people without NFL Network are people with cable. You figure it out.

 

[Dale]

Biased ESPN is to blame.

....Oops, wrong thread.

 

[Tuna Helper]

Yep and tonight going to be a BIG start. First Cowboy game that people can't watch.

The more that happens...The more pressure that's going to be on the Cable company's.

Exactly.

Why would they even put the Cowboys on Saturday Night football when they knew that much of the nation can't watch it?

NFL knew that they would not strike a deal with resistant cable companies before the end of this season.

We have a huge fanbase, and there is no better pressure for cable companies to cave in.

 

[theogt]

Actually Dish and DirecTV carry NFL Network. Time Warner and several other cable companies have publicly said that they will not add NFL Network.

They aren't willing to negotiate.

There are numerous cable companies that have not added NFL network. What is it that makes you think that so many different companies are being obstinate, instead of coming to the much more likely conclusion that ONE SINGLE COMPANY is being obstinate (i.e., the NFL)?

 

[Concord]

Biased ESPN is to blame.

....Oops, wrong thread.

Yep it's the media!

 

[conner01]

Exactly, look at boxing, can you name the HW Champ right now, I can't.

boxing did'nt decline because of pay for view but because there are no good heavy weights out there.if you have a product the people want they will pay for it. it's that simple.if boxing did't have an idiot with a bad hairdo as their spokesman and would develope good fighters then people would watch.i'm sure there is fault on both sides but at some point cooler heads will prevail and cable will cave in, because the nflnetwork is not going away and if cable refuses it will cost them subscribers

 

[RomoNow]

So in your opinion, it is your God given right to watch free football.



Man, some of you act like spoiled brats. Pony up and pay or quit watching. You DO have a choice.

I agree 100% with you.

 

[Tuna Helper]

If they gained more total customers would that more then offset the cost to the cable company?

Yeah, but you assume that cable companies are intelligent.

They have been living off the public for years with only a few innovations (after pressure was applied from satellite).

They never hesitated to add useless channels to my lineup and raise my bill in years past, yet they balk at this one, for a channel that many people want.

Screw the cable companies!

 

[theogt]

DirecTV and Dish which are the only real satellite Company's have.

The only people without NFL Network are people with cable. You figure it out.

Yes, let's figure this out.

On one side we have numerous companies. On the other we have a single company.

What is it that makes all of these transactions fail? Well, let's see. There is one common factor in each and every transaction. Yes, that would be the NFL.

 

[Concord]

Exactly.

Why would they even put the Cowboys on Saturday Night football when they knew that much of the nation can't watch it?

NFL knew that they would not strike a deal with resistant cable companies before the end of this season.

We have a huge fanbase, and there is no better pressure for cable companies to cave in.

And if the Cable company's don't add it...Watch for even more Cowboy games on it next year.

 

[UDcowboysfan]

I think the NFL network is just fine they show two games a week, what i think is piracy is the unbelievable price you pay for like sunday ticket, thats rediculas. NFL network for satilite people is like a basic channel. So its kind of like the people that cant watch monday night football anymore since its on ESPN.

 

[Tuna Helper]

Yes, let's figure this out.

On one side we have numerous companies. On the other we have a single company.

What is it that makes all of these transactions fail? Well, let's see. There is one common factor in each and every transaction. Yes, that would be the NFL.

Cable companies all have the exact same business model. Only the names change.

IMO, the cable companies are the bullies here, and not the NFL.

 

[theogt]

Cable companies all have the exact same business model. Only the names change.

IMO, the cable companies are the bullies here, and not the NFL.

That's quite an assumption you're placing there.

Numerous companies in diverse markets with diverse directors and officers and diverse shareholders all have the EXACT SAME business model and make the EXACT SAME business decisions. Yes, that's MUCH MORE LIKELY than the NFL being the culprit.

 

[BigDFan5]

There are numerous cable companies that have not added NFL network. What is it that makes you think that so many different companies are being obstinate, instead of coming to the much more likely conclusion that ONE SINGLE COMPANY is being obstinate (i.e., the NFL)?

the 2 major sattelite companies, and over 170 cable companies added NFLN with no additional charge to customers, only a few resist. They resist because they want to gouge the consumer with a large monthly fee for a sports tier just to get 1 channel

 

[theogt]

the 2 major sattelite companies, and over 170 cable companies added NFLN with no additional charge to customers, only a few resist. They resist because they want to gouge the consumer with a large monthly fee for a sports tier just to get 1 channel

Basically it boils down to the NFL wanting ~$140 MM and the cable companies wanting to pay ~$115 MM. The cable companies won't mind if it's placed on a basic level as long as the contract price is adjusted.

If this were one company it'd be a lot more reasonable to blame the cable company. I just find it very interesting that SO MANY companies are having problems negotiating with the NFL. For some reason that leads me to suspect the NFL.

 

[Concord]

Yes, let's figure this out.

On one side we have numerous companies. On the other we have a single company.

What is it that makes all of these transactions fail? Well, let's see. There is one common factor in each and every transaction. Yes, that would be the NFL.

I'll say it again. Cable is at fault. DirecTV and Dish had no problem coming to an agreement with the NFL. If you want to blame the NFL fine, I don't care I have DirecTv and NFL Network and will be watching the Game.

 

[Bleu Star]

There are so many fans who are frustated at not being able to watch the games that are now on the NFL Network. There is currently a fight between the TimeWarners and CableVisions of the world and the NFL Network over the right to broadcast these games.

The basics of the fight, of course, boils down to money. The NFL wants cable companies to offer the NFL Network to their cable customers as a basic channel ( like ESPN, BET, VH1). The cable companies would pay the NFL Network (the want .70 per) each month per subscriber. You do the math. That's per month.

The Cable companies want to offer the NFL Network as a premium channel and pass the cost off to the customer because the NFL is asking for wayyyyyy too much money to offer it as a basic channel. And now that they have added games to their channel, the price just went up.

Honestly I think the NFL has gotten too arrogant and asking for too much money from the cable companies. But with the new player's agreement they have to recoup some of their losses somehow.

Here are two websites that will allow you to choose Who's at fault and why all of America will not be able to watch America's team tonight.

http://www.iwantmynfl.com/

or

http://www.nflgetreal.com/

I believe the answer to this question will be found when you consider the fact that some cable companies chose to carry the NFLN with no question while others quibble over fine details at the expense of their subscribers. I think this division easily clarifies which cable companies care most about their subscribers and which are in it for themselves.