Who's at Fault? NFL Network or Cable? You Choose

[theogt]

By your refusal to provide any substance behind your number I will have to assume it was made up to try and argue a point. My bad for expecting honesty in the debate

Good one! I told you it wasn't an exact number. LEARN TO READ! With a minimal amount of research you can find the numbers and proposals on these transactions. I assume your inability to comprehend what you read is the reason you can't do the research.

 

[BigDFan5]

Good one! I told you it wasn't an exact number. LEARN TO READ! With a minimal amount of research you can find the numbers and proposals on these transactions. I assume your inability to comprehend what you read is the reason you can't do the research.

Why should I go search for something ypu are trying to say?? and in my post I asked for a link about ~115 million, "~" means approximate in case you didnt know.

So again you brought it up show a link to where you saw it otherwise I call BS since time warners own website disagrees with you.

As for the insults keep them coming it is enjoyable watching you get worked up when asked to prove what you are saying

 

[Bleu Star]

And I might add that when I call the customer retention line one month ago they gave me $200 off right then and knocked $20 a month on my bill for 2 years.

This sounds like a company that clearly sees who is most important. Their subscribers.

 

[theogt]

Why should I go search for something ypu are trying to say?? and in my post I asked for a link about ~115 million, "~" means approximate in case you didnt know.

So again you brought it up show a link to where you saw it otherwise I call BS since time warners own website disagrees with you.

As for the insults keep them coming it is enjoyable watching you get worked up when asked to prove what you are saying

I'm not here to inform you on every possible fact of every possible debate. I'm not your mother. Do some research on your own for once.

 

[Rack]

You all KNOW what he does to this thread...

 

[Concord]

Yes, it is envy that has caused me to use logical arguments in this discussion. I've yet to see you make a single logical argument one way or the other. I guess I'm just supposed to accept your word as truth?

By the way, I'm heading to a sports bar with friends to watch the game.

Your logical arguments are to stick up for the cable companys, in spite of what I and other people have told or shown you. Whatever.

Have fun at the sports bar...I'll be at home with DirecTV and NFL network watching the Cowboys game.

 

[BigDFan5]

I'm not here to inform you on every possible fact of every possible debate. I'm not your mother. Do some research on your own for once.

Like I said BS! you threw out a fake number and when you got called out on it you start with the insults

you're "not here to inform" me yet it was YOU that posted the bogus number so prove your point and get a link

 

[theogt]

Your logical arguments are to stick up for the cable companys, in spite of what I and other people have told or shown you. Whatever.

Have fun at the sports bar...I'll be at home with DirecTV and NFL network watching the Cowboys game.

What you've told me is that you're right because you say so. I'm looking for logical arguments. Haven't seen any coming from your direction.

Actually I will have some fun. Hanging out with friends at the bar on Saturday nights and watching the Dallas Cowboys. That's what the under 30 crowd does these days. Even if I did have NFL network I probably would have went out anyway.

 

[theogt]

Like I said BS! you threw out a fake number and when you got called out on it you start with the insults

you're "not here to inform" me yet it was YOU that posted the bogus number so prove your point and get a link

If you'd do the research you'd see that it's not fake and you look foolish.

 

[BigDFan5]

If you'd do the research you'd see that it's not fake and you look foolish.

I have no need to research a number that you threw out there. Prove your number or not I dont care. You are the only one looking foolish

 

[Concord]

This sounds like a company that clearly sees who is most important. Their subscribers.

Yep I was Happy. Hell I just got my annual Christmas card from them with a20% off coupon at Best Buy!

 

[Kaika]

In my situation ,what pi$$ed me off was , we had the NFL channel with our cable provider Adelphia.

Time Warner bought Adelphia in April of this year.

Then T.W. kept posting on TV that it was not going to carry the NFL channel starting Sept. 1st . T.W. then advertises on their information channel that they're sorry about not carrying the NFL channel and we should write to the NFL and complain about their tactics.

What The Hell!!!!!

I HAD IT, AND YOU TOOK IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tantrum:

I don't care about blame here, there's enough to go around , it's all about $$, and again ,the Public gets screwed.

 

[theogt]

I have no need to research a number that you threw out there. Prove your number or not I dont care. You are the only one looking foolish

Yes, I look foolish. I've been using logic and common sense. You've used the "Provide a link or you're wrong" defense. Good luck with that.

 

[Concord]

What you've told me is that you're right because you say so. I'm looking for logical arguments. Haven't seen any coming from your direction.

Actually I will have some fun. Hanging out with friends at the bar on Saturday nights and watching the Dallas Cowboys. That's what the under 30 crowd does these days. Even if I did have NFL network I probably would have went out anyway.

What about stuff like this?

WE WANT YOU TO SEE NFL NETWORK

• NFL Network was created so you could watch it. There is no reason the network would be withheld from you. It doesn’t make sense for you or the network. Think about that. Why would this network be created and then kept from you?
• NFL Network has been offered to your cable provider. Your cable provider made a conscious decision not to add it. Your cable provider cannot be forced to carry NFL Network.
• Over 170 cable companies as well as Dish Network and DIRECTV offer NFL Network without charging extra for it. If they can carry the channel and do not pass along costs, your cable provider can too.


WE DON’T WANT YOU TO PAY MORE MONEY TO SEE IT!

• NFL Network is not trying to charge consumers money; in fact we are working hard for just the opposite.
• We have been working hard to ensure these games are presented as part of your basic cable lineup like popular channels MTV, TNT, USA and ESPN without ANY additional costs being passed along to you.




YOUR CABLE COMPANY WANTS TO CHARGE YOU MORE MONEY

• Your cable company wants to put NFL Network on a specialty premium package and charge you up to $10 a month or $120 a year extra to see it.
• NFL Network asks the cable company for less than ONE movie ticket per year per subscriber to carry our channel.
• Your cable company is looking to charge you up to 24 times more than what they pay for NFL Network!
• This is why we have resisted. It is not in your best interest. And remember, over 170 cable companies offer NFL Network without charging their customers extra for it. If they can carry the channel and not pass along costs, yours can too.
• Did your cable company inform you that in exchange for carrying NFL Network they receive 300 hours of advertising time on NFL Network? They get to sell commercials on NFL Network, including during our live highly-rated NFL games and keep ALL the revenue from those ad sales? This ensures you the consumer does not have to have costs passed along. The cable company can offset the costs we charge them by selling advertising. This is how 170 other cable companies are doing it so you don’t have to be charged extra.




ONLY CUSTOMERS WHO WANT THE CHANNEL SHOULD PAY FOR IT
• Your cable company says it thinks only the people who want the channel should have to pay for it. This is not how they package their programming to you, is it? You get a whole bunch of channels you don’t want or aren’t interested in. Why are they trying to discriminate against NFL Network and treat our channel differently? We just asked to be treated in the same manner they treat other channels, and especially channels your cable company owns itself.
• NFL games are the most popular programming cable companies can offer bar none. Ratings for NFL games rank as 90 of the top 100 most popular shows on cable in history. As such, if more people watch it, shouldn’t more people have the option of seeing it?

What are you Joe Rockhead?
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[BigDFan5]

Yes, I look foolish. I've been using logic and common sense. You've used the "Provide a link or you're wrong" defense. Good luck with that.

I have used actaul facts and logic on my side, you provided a number that you refuse to back up, and made a statement the cable companies own website disagrees with. Yes i see some foolishness there

 

[Bleu Star]

In my situation ,what pi$$ed me off was , we had the NFL channel with our cable provider Adelphia.

Time Warner bought Adelphia in April of this year.

Then T.W. kept posting on TV that it was not going to carry the NFL channel starting Sept. 1st . T.W. then advertises on their information channel that they're sorry about not carrying the NFL channel and we should write to the NFL and complain about their tactics.

What The Hell!!!!!

I HAD IT, AND YOU TOOK IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tantrum:

I don't care about blame here, there's enough to go around , it's all about $$, and again ,the Public gets screwed.

WOW. That truly sucks (and, might I add, further supports my argument on the thieves vs real cable companies).

 

[Concord]

What you've told me is that you're right because you say so. I'm looking for logical arguments. Haven't seen any coming from your direction.

Actually I will have some fun. Hanging out with friends at the bar on Saturday nights and watching the Dallas Cowboys. That's what the under 30 crowd does these days. Even if I did have NFL network I probably would have went out anyway.

Yeah whatever.:laugh2:

 

[theogt]

I have used actaul facts and logic on my side, you provided a number that you refuse to back up, and made a statement the cable companies own website disagrees with. Yes i see some foolishness there

The website didn't disagree with my statement. The statement did not preclude my statement. Actually, my statement logically followed from the statement on the website.

You used facts, but made no logical argument.

 

[Concord]

In my situation ,what pi$$ed me off was , we had the NFL channel with our cable provider Adelphia.

Time Warner bought Adelphia in April of this year.

Then T.W. kept posting on TV that it was not going to carry the NFL channel starting Sept. 1st . T.W. then advertises on their information channel that they're sorry about not carrying the NFL channel and we should write to the NFL and complain about their tactics.

What The Hell!!!!!

I HAD IT, AND YOU TOOK IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:tantrum:

I don't care about blame here, there's enough to go around , it's all about $$, and again ,the Public gets screwed.

Because it's the NFL's fault!

P.S. Don't blame Cable.

 

[Bleu Star]

Your logical arguments are to stick up for the cable companys, in spite of what I and other people have told or shown you. Whatever.

Have fun at the sports bar...I'll be at home with DirecTV and NFL network watching the Cowboys game.

While theogt wastes gas to hit the local sports bar I will pop a cool one with some friends and enjoy the game 10 feet away in my self made sports bar thanks to DirecTV. Thank you DirecTV!

You'll get it one day theogt. Perhaps it won't be until you stop working for that thieving cable company.