Who's at Fault? NFL Network or Cable? You Choose

[Concord]

LOL... I find that extremely laughable too.

This guy MUST have some kind of stake in a Cable company.:

 

[Bleu Star]

This guy MUST have some kind of stake in a Cable company.:

Yeah. He probably works for Mediacom.

 

[theogt]

The NFL has all the leverage here. They are not going to take less money.

Bingo! They're being obstinate because they can.

Funny how my DirecTV bill didn't go up when the NFL Network was added but it will on Cable.

At least that's what you think. You have absolutely no way of proving this. In fact, I would assume that you're wrong.

They should take a little less profit and make their customers happy.

Same could be said for the NFL.

 

[theogt]

This isnt a 50/50 deal. Over 170 cable companies and both major sattelite provoders have a deal, only a handful are resisting. its more like 90% agree with the NFL 10% dont, now who is at fault?


As fot the numbers you tell me to do research and then say the numbers cant be found? I know the 137 million that Time warner is saying they are being asked to pay, now where can I find the 115 million?

I said I simplified it a bit. Did you see that "~" in front of the numbers on my post? That means approximately. Sheesh, some people need to learn to read.

 

[Concord]

[/B]Bingo! They're being obstinate because they can.
At least that's what you think. You have absolutely no way of proving this. In fact, I would assume that you're wrong.
Same could be said for the NFL.

Lets see. My bill is the same as the day NFL network was added. I think that proves it.

 

[theogt]

Yeah. He probably works for Mediacom.

I don't work for a cable company, no. If I had the choice right now, I would have DirecTV. Unfortunately I don't have the choice.

 

[Concord]

I don't work for a cable company, no. If I had the choice right now, I would have DirecTV. Unfortunately I don't have the choice.

Well finally we have come to the problem...Envy!

 

[BigDFan5]

WE WANT YOU TO SEE NFL NETWORK

• NFL Network was created so you could watch it. There is no reason the network would be withheld from you. It doesn’t make sense for you or the network. Think about that. Why would this network be created and then kept from you?
• NFL Network has been offered to your cable provider. Your cable provider made a conscious decision not to add it. Your cable provider cannot be forced to carry NFL Network.
• Over 170 cable companies as well as Dish Network and DIRECTV offer NFL Network without charging extra for it. If they can carry the channel and do not pass along costs, your cable provider can too.



WE DON’T WANT YOU TO PAY MORE MONEY TO SEE IT!

• NFL Network is not trying to charge consumers money; in fact we are working hard for just the opposite.
• We have been working hard to ensure these games are presented as part of your basic cable lineup like popular channels MTV, TNT, USA and ESPN without ANY additional costs being passed along to you.




YOUR CABLE COMPANY WANTS TO CHARGE YOU MORE MONEY

• Your cable company wants to put NFL Network on a specialty premium package and charge you up to $10 a month or $120 a year extra to see it.
• NFL Network asks the cable company for less than ONE movie ticket per year per subscriber to carry our channel.
• Your cable company is looking to charge you up to 24 times more than what they pay for NFL Network!
• This is why we have resisted. It is not in your best interest. And remember, over 170 cable companies offer NFL Network without charging their customers extra for it. If they can carry the channel and not pass along costs, yours can too.
• Did your cable company inform you that in exchange for carrying NFL Network they receive 300 hours of advertising time on NFL Network? They get to sell commercials on NFL Network, including during our live highly-rated NFL games and keep ALL the revenue from those ad sales? This ensures you the consumer does not have to have costs passed along. The cable company can offset the costs we charge them by selling advertising. This is how 170 other cable companies are doing it so you don’t have to be charged extra.




ONLY CUSTOMERS WHO WANT THE CHANNEL SHOULD PAY FOR IT
• Your cable company says it thinks only the people who want the channel should have to pay for it. This is not how they package their programming to you, is it? You get a whole bunch of channels you don’t want or aren’t interested in. Why are they trying to discriminate against NFL Network and treat our channel differently? We just asked to be treated in the same manner they treat other channels, and especially channels your cable company owns itself.
• NFL games are the most popular programming cable companies can offer bar none. Ratings for NFL games rank as 90 of the top 100 most popular shows on cable in history. As such, if more people watch it, shouldn’t more people have the option of seeing it?

 

[theogt]

Lets see. My bill is the same as the day NFL network was added. I think that proves it.

No, that does not prove that adding the NFL channel changed its rates. Surely you can see this.

For example, the increased costs may have actually forced your satellite provider to cut other services, or even worse, lay off employees to reduce costs.

Furthermore, you may have been under contract when the change went into place. Your rates may not rise until your next contract. Or the rates may have increased prior to you joining for various reasons.

In the end, you have absolutely NO WAY of proving that adding the NFL channel didn't affect prices.

 

[Bleu Star]

I don't work for a cable company, no. If I had the choice right now, I would have DirecTV. Unfortunately I don't have the choice.

Well I am sorry you don't have the choice available to you. That sucks. However, I think you're seeing the wrong picture. I cannot reiterate enough how important it is to keep your subscribers happy when you deliver a medium to them. A majority of cable companies clearly understand that and as a result their subscribers will enjoy the game in the comfort of their own homes tonight.

I have no sympathy for those agenda driven cable companies that are rising to the top of the pile and showing their true colors right now. The thieves are in clear view.

 

[theogt]

[/b]

Well finally we have come to the problem...Envy!

Yes, it is envy that has caused me to use logical arguments in this discussion. I've yet to see you make a single logical argument one way or the other. I guess I'm just supposed to accept your word as truth?

By the way, I'm heading to a sports bar with friends to watch the game.

 

[Concord]

• Over 170 cable companies as well as Dish Network and DIRECTV offer NFL Network without charging extra for it. If they can carry the channel and do not pass along costs, your cable provider can too.

Thank you!

 

[BigDFan5]

I said I simplified it a bit. Did you see that "~" in front of the numbers on my post? That means approximately. Sheesh, some people need to learn to read.

This isn 't hard bro, find me a link to ~115 million is what the cable companies will agree to put it on basic cable. Is that better? You threw the number out I am just looking for verification

 

[theogt]

Well I am sorry you don't have the choice available to you. That sucks. However, I think you're seeing the wrong picture. I cannot reiterate enough how important it is to keep your subscribers happy when you deliver a medium to them. A majority of cable companies clearly understand that and as a result their subscribers will enjoy the came in the comfort of their own homes tonight.

I have no sympathy for those agenda driven cable companies that are rising to the top of the pile and showing their true colors right now. The thieves are in clear view.

I'm sorry, I think you're completely misunderstanding basic business concepts.

 

[theogt]

This isn 't hard bro, find me a link to ~115 million is what the cable companies will agree to put it on basic cable. Is that better? You threw the number out I am just looking for verification

Learn. To. Read.

 

[BigDFan5]

Learn. To. Read.

By your refusal to provide any substance behind your number I will have to assume it was made up to try and argue a point. My bad for expecting honesty in the debate

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm sorry, I think you're completely misunderstanding basic business concepts.

I'm sorry. I think you work for one of the thieves and don't want to admit it. At least you have a sports bar nearby to satisfy your thirst while your company continues to fleece it's subscribers.

My sports bar is 10 feet away.

 

[Jammer]

• This is why we have resisted. It is not in your best interest. And remember, over 170 cable companies offer NFL Network without charging their customers extra for it. If they can carry the channel and not pass along costs, yours can too.

I thought I read a post in here about how their cable companies offered the NFL Network for free, but the games were extra or not available?

 

[Concord]

No, that does not prove that adding the NFL channel changed its rates. Surely you can see this.

For example, the increased costs may have actually forced your satellite provider to cut other services, or even worse, lay off employees to reduce costs.

Furthermore, you may have been under contract when the change went into place. Your rates may not rise until your next contract. Or the rates may have increased prior to you joining for various reasons.

In the end, you have absolutely NO WAY of proving that adding the NFL channel didn't affect prices.

Nothing has changed in my service as a matter of fact I've had about 5 others channels added besides NFL network in that timeframe.

I have no contract with DirecTV. I've been a customer for 10 years.

And I might add that when I call the customer retention line one month ago they gave me $200 off right then and knocked $20 a month on my bill for 2 years.

 

[BigDFan5]

I thought I read a post in here about how their cable companies offered the NFL Network for free, but the games were extra or not available?

When negotiating with the cable companies the NFL offered 2 services, NFLN by itself, or NFLN with games. The one with games is ghe one that costs so much. Some cable companies bought the rights to the channel without games and never told their customers